They are not in discussion for the best team for this year. No shot.
They choked a 11-3 lead to win Lock-in. HOW TF DO YOU CHOKE AN 11 - 3 LEAD.
Looked shakey and had close games through out their season and THEN had a shockingly SHITE showing at tokyo. Embarassing.
Than they magically looked good during playoffs of champs. They had a high ceiling but toooo inconsistent. You just don't know what version of Loud you see on the day.
-Sir Johnny, Knight of the seven kingdoms.
SEN_brasileiros [#4]they feel inconsistent cuz they TRY new things even while winning, while FNC not.
So they're dumb to try new things at a masters.
Sir_Johnny123 [#5]So they're dumb to try new things at a masters.
They didn't played bad at masters but EG used to play against team + EDG new playstyle
Yessirskiiii [#3]FNATIC is the only right answer. Followed by TL (won EU regional tournament, by far the hardest).
did you really think you would sneak TL in there?
Sir_Johnny123 [#5]So they're dumb to try new things at a masters.
Yes, that's what LOUD fans used to say
KrithikHarshith [#8]if they win champs..they are the best team of all time undeniably
Of all time maybe. But fnatic are the best team of 2023 whatever the outcome is
Yessirskiiii [#3]FNATIC is the only right answer. Followed by TL (won EU regional tournament, by far the hardest).
Navi clears TL 10x over
Sir_Johnny123 [#12]Tokyo 10th + GROUPED
Even the best team to ever touch this game has bad tournaments
Argonaut_NA [#14]First of all, I agree that they won't be the best looking team of this year if we're talking about peak performances for teams this year. HOWEVER, you can't say that LOUD can't be in consideration for THIS YEAR and then talk about LOCK//IN which was last year. It will either be fnatic or PRX
LOCKIN ended in March this year buddy
thiagomds [#15]Even the best team to ever touch this game has bad tournaments
Gambit would clear them if they wasn't forced to disband
Sir_Johnny123 [#17]Gambit would clear them if they wasn't forced to disband
deffo and redgar weren't good enough to beat Loud, chill.
It's important to remember the team was really new at the time, it was the first tournament Tuyz and Cauanzin played as LOUD players, both super young as well. And they still made it to the grand final in their first showing, not a small feat imo. They definitely didn't expect to go that far so soon with 2 new young players.
Looked shakey and still only NRG was able to beat them, so who cares? C9 looked strong af and didn't go to Masters or Champions, I bet they wish they looked as shakey as LOUD.
Yeah, they perfomed badly at Tokyo. Tried new things and it didn't work out. But I think everyone can agree they came back 10x stronger after that for the most important tournament of the year so, again, who cares?
It's not magic, it's work and commitment. They placed 2nd at Lock In, 1st at VCT and they're already top 3 at Champions. That's inconsistent? One bad tournament takes away all of that? I disagree.
I think they are absolutely in discussion for the best team this year, especially if they win Champs. I know that's a hard pill to swallow for you guys.
nanda505 [#19]
- "They choked a 11-3 lead to win Lock-in. HOW TF DO YOU CHOKE AN 11 - 3 LEAD."
It's important to remember the team was really new at the time, it was the first tournament Tuyz and Cauanzin played as LOUD players, both super young as well. And they still made it to the grand final in their first showing, not a small feat imo. They definitely didn't expect to go that far so soon with 2 new young players.
- "Looked shakey and had close games through out their season"
Looked shakey and still only NRG was able to beat them, so who cares? C9 looked strong af and didn't go to Masters or Champions, I bet they wish they looked as shakey as LOUD.
- "and THEN had a shockingly SHITE showing at tokyo. Embarassing."
Yeah, they perfomed badly at Tokyo. Tried new things and it didn't work out. But I think everyone can agree they came back 10x stronger after that for the most important tournament of the year so, again, who cares?
- "Than they magically looked good during playoffs of champs. They had a high ceiling but toooo inconsistent. You just don't know what version of Loud you see on the day."
It's not magic, it's work and commitment. They placed 2nd at Lock In, 1st at VCT and they're already top 3 at Champions. That's inconsistent? One bad tournament takes away all of that? I disagree.
I think they are absolutely in discussion for the best team this year, especially if they win Champs. I know that's a hard pill to swallow for you guys.
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nanda505 [#19]
- "They choked a 11-3 lead to win Lock-in. HOW TF DO YOU CHOKE AN 11 - 3 LEAD."
It's important to remember the team was really new at the time, it was the first tournament Tuyz and Cauanzin played as LOUD players, both super young as well. And they still made it to the grand final in their first showing, not a small feat imo. They definitely didn't expect to go that far so soon with 2 new young players.
- "Looked shakey and had close games through out their season"
Looked shakey and still only NRG was able to beat them, so who cares? C9 looked strong af and didn't go to Masters or Champions, I bet they wish they looked as shakey as LOUD.
- "and THEN had a shockingly SHITE showing at tokyo. Embarassing."
Yeah, they perfomed badly at Tokyo. Tried new things and it didn't work out. But I think everyone can agree they came back 10x stronger after that for the most important tournament of the year so, again, who cares?
- "Than they magically looked good during playoffs of champs. They had a high ceiling but toooo inconsistent. You just don't know what version of Loud you see on the day."
It's not magic, it's work and commitment. They placed 2nd at Lock In, 1st at VCT and they're already top 3 at Champions. That's inconsistent? One bad tournament takes away all of that? I disagree.
I think they are absolutely in discussion for the best team this year, especially if they win Champs. I know that's a hard pill to swallow for you guys.
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cristiadu [#24]they had literally one bad tournament the whole year, everything else has been whether winning or almost winning.
Fnatic worst tournament and they came 4th...
They would never get grouped LOL
Sir_Johnny123 [#25]Fnatic worst tournament and they came 4th...
They would never get grouped LOL
Fnatic worst tournament they got grouped losing to nip prison valorant bro kkkkkkkkkk
dejikke [#27]Fnatic worst tournament they got grouped losing to nip prison valorant bro kkkkkkkkkk
That wasn;t even the full Fnatic roster lil bro.
Also fake bronzil flag supporting EG
Sir_Johnny123 [#10]Of all time maybe. But fnatic are the best team of 2023 whatever the outcome is
Nah, champs >>> fluke in and masters, whoever wins champs is the best team of 2023 and that's not even debatable
Sir_Johnny123 [#29]That wasn;t even the full Fnatic roster lil bro.
Also fake bronzil flag supporting EG
they got grouped by nip, you cant deny that when talking about fnatic as an org
SEN_s1mple [#30]Nah, champs >>> fluke in and masters, whoever wins champs is the best team of 2023 and that's not even debatable
If you actually think that, you are delusional but you are probbably baiting
dejikke [#31]they got grouped by nip, you cant deny that when talking about fnatic as an org
With 2 subs. yeah i cant deny it at all. Fnatic still has more trophies then NA and Bronzil. you cant deny that
Sir_Johnny123 [#33]With 2 subs. yeah i cant deny it at all. Fnatic still has more trophies then NA and Bronzil. you cant deny that
with 2 subs or not, they still lost
nanda505 [#19]
- "They choked a 11-3 lead to win Lock-in. HOW TF DO YOU CHOKE AN 11 - 3 LEAD."
It's important to remember the team was really new at the time, it was the first tournament Tuyz and Cauanzin played as LOUD players, both super young as well. And they still made it to the grand final in their first showing, not a small feat imo. They definitely didn't expect to go that far so soon with 2 new young players.
- "Looked shakey and had close games through out their season"
Looked shakey and still only NRG was able to beat them, so who cares? C9 looked strong af and didn't go to Masters or Champions, I bet they wish they looked as shakey as LOUD.
- "and THEN had a shockingly SHITE showing at tokyo. Embarassing."
Yeah, they perfomed badly at Tokyo. Tried new things and it didn't work out. But I think everyone can agree they came back 10x stronger after that for the most important tournament of the year so, again, who cares?
- "Than they magically looked good during playoffs of champs. They had a high ceiling but toooo inconsistent. You just don't know what version of Loud you see on the day."
It's not magic, it's work and commitment. They placed 2nd at Lock In, 1st at VCT and they're already top 3 at Champions. That's inconsistent? One bad tournament takes away all of that? I disagree.
I think they are absolutely in discussion for the best team this year, especially if they win Champs. I know that's a hard pill to swallow for you guys.
also, NRG only beat LOUD cause they were saving strats for playoffs
paul1778 [#32]If you actually think that, you are delusional but you are probbably baiting
The Champions' prize pool is worth 1 million. Fnatic has 1 million in earnings, combining everything they've won in Valorant history. Yes, he's right.
Brimstan [#36]navi is the best eu team. rn and all time
why do ppl keep saying this? what is this delusion about NAVI?
Yessirskiiii [#3]FNATIC is the only right answer. Followed by TL (won EU regional tournament, by far the hardest).
Fatso came back and dropped a W
Just another day in the business atp
SEN_s1mple [#30]Nah, champs >>> fluke in and masters, whoever wins champs is the best team of 2023 and that's not even debatable
idk why this has to be explained, but winning one tournament doesn't make you the best team of the year. sure, it may be the most important and prestigious tournament of the year, but that doesn't take away from the fact that a different team had a dominant year and only fell short at one tournament. I don't even like Fnatic, but they are without a doubt the best team of 2023. Even if EG won this last tournament, they are still nowhere near as dominant as Fnatic was this year.
Astroman77 [#37]The Champions' prize pool is worth 1 million. Fnatic has 1 million in earnings, combining everything they've won in Valorant history. Yes, he's right.
That makes no sense dude
Lets say for example DFM gets 26-0 in lock in and goes 0-9 in regional play that means no masters
and then qualifies through lcq and wins champions
Theyre definetely NOT the best team of the year
Champs means best team at the moment but not the whole year
deathrowromeo [#41]idk why this has to be explained, but winning one tournament doesn't make you the best team of the year. sure, it may be the most important and prestigious tournament of the year, but that doesn't take away from the fact that a different team had a dominant year and only fell short at one tournament. I don't even like Fnatic, but they are without a doubt the best team of 2023. Even if EG won this last tournament, they are still nowhere near as dominant as Fnatic was this year.
Finally. Thanks for being reasonable
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer [#42]That makes no sense dude
Lets say for example DFM gets 26-0 in lock in and goes 0-9 in regional play that means no masters
and then qualifies through lcq and wins championsTheyre definetely NOT the best team of the year
Champs means best team at the moment but not the whole year
LOUD didnt go 26-0 nor 0-9 they won americas came 2nd in lockin and bombed out of tokyo
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer [#42]That makes no sense dude
Lets say for example DFM gets 26-0 in lock in and goes 0-9 in regional play that means no masters
and then qualifies through lcq and wins championsTheyre definetely NOT the best team of the year
Champs means best team at the moment but not the whole year
Dude, Messi is going to win another Ballon d'Or just for winning the most important football championship of the year (WC), even though he didn't perform in the Champions League. While Haaland, who played unbelievably well in all possible tournaments, won't win, even though he won the Champions League and Premier League. That's how things work. You can win 10 low-stakes and low-importance championships and lose the most important one, and the year of the one who won the most important one will matter more...
nanda505 [#19]
- "They choked a 11-3 lead to win Lock-in. HOW TF DO YOU CHOKE AN 11 - 3 LEAD."
It's important to remember the team was really new at the time, it was the first tournament Tuyz and Cauanzin played as LOUD players, both super young as well. And they still made it to the grand final in their first showing, not a small feat imo. They definitely didn't expect to go that far so soon with 2 new young players.
- "Looked shakey and had close games through out their season"
Looked shakey and still only NRG was able to beat them, so who cares? C9 looked strong af and didn't go to Masters or Champions, I bet they wish they looked as shakey as LOUD.
- "and THEN had a shockingly SHITE showing at tokyo. Embarassing."
Yeah, they perfomed badly at Tokyo. Tried new things and it didn't work out. But I think everyone can agree they came back 10x stronger after that for the most important tournament of the year so, again, who cares?
- "Than they magically looked good during playoffs of champs. They had a high ceiling but toooo inconsistent. You just don't know what version of Loud you see on the day."
It's not magic, it's work and commitment. They placed 2nd at Lock In, 1st at VCT and they're already top 3 at Champions. That's inconsistent? One bad tournament takes away all of that? I disagree.
I think they are absolutely in discussion for the best team this year, especially if they win Champs. I know that's a hard pill to swallow for you guys.
sabe muito.
Astroman77 [#46]Dude, Messi is going to win another Ballon d'Or just for winning the most important football championship of the year (WC), even though he didn't perform in the Champions League. While Haaland, who played unbelievably well in all possible tournaments, won't win, even though he won the Champions League and Premier League. That's how things work. You can win 10 low-stakes and low-importance championships and lose the most important one, and the year of the one who won the most important one will matter more...
But Football and Valorant is not comparable
Messi had a decent season in league play and was tied topscorer in the world cup. Also broke multiple records and had the highest impact of em all
CryoZanderDerrekEnjoyer [#48]But Football and Valorant is not comparable
Messi had a decent season in league play and was tied topscorer in the world cup. Also broke multiple records and had the highest impact of em all
Excluding the World Cup, who was better this season, Haaland or Messi?
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