All remaining games are definitely coin flip but whoever wins between EG and PRX wins the tournament
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I can't really see PRX losing this tournament now. Loud are on crazy form and Fnatic could potentially hit their ceiling again but I don't think either would be enough to overcome map veto.
EG I just can't see having the experience in BO5s and PRX are just insane right now.
Fully expecting a PRX 2:1 in upper bracket finals, Loud or Fnatic coinflip depending on day performance, then EG struggling in a bo5 compared to a bo3 like Tokyo then PRX hammering the victor in the grand finals.
Ryzen_ [#3]I can't really see PRX losing this tournament now. Loud are on crazy form and Fnatic could potentially hit their ceiling again but I don't think either would be enough to overcome map veto.
EG I just can't see having the experience in BO5s and PRX are just insane right now.
Fully expecting a PRX 2:1 in upper bracket finals, Loud or Fnatic coinflip depending on day performance, then EG struggling in a bo5 compared to a bo3 like Tokyo then PRX hammering the victor in the grand finals.
yeah unfortunatly PRX just the best team :(
Ryzen_ [#3]I can't really see PRX losing this tournament now. Loud are on crazy form and Fnatic could potentially hit their ceiling again but I don't think either would be enough to overcome map veto.
EG I just can't see having the experience in BO5s and PRX are just insane right now.
Fully expecting a PRX 2:1 in upper bracket finals, Loud or Fnatic coinflip depending on day performance, then EG struggling in a bo5 compared to a bo3 like Tokyo then PRX hammering the victor in the grand finals.
NAH EG will be best in Bo5
They have insane map pool
Ryzen_ [#3]I can't really see PRX losing this tournament now. Loud are on crazy form and Fnatic could potentially hit their ceiling again but I don't think either would be enough to overcome map veto.
EG I just can't see having the experience in BO5s and PRX are just insane right now.
Fully expecting a PRX 2:1 in upper bracket finals, Loud or Fnatic coinflip depending on day performance, then EG struggling in a bo5 compared to a bo3 like Tokyo then PRX hammering the victor in the grand finals.
I disagree bro. I dont wanna sound rude, but Loud literally throw away that Lotus Map, losing rounds that they use to win. Pearl was also a close map. I can see PRX losing to Loud
Asuna_Yuuki [#5]NAH EG will be best in Bo5
They have insane map pool
People said the same in Tokyo and they got 3-0'd.
They've only really had 1 solid test this tournament in the form of EDG. DRX is hard to gauge the performance of considering they 13-1d Fnatic then proceeded to flop 2 maps including 1 they could have definitely closed out.
Rendzin [#6]I disagree bro. I dont wanna sound rude, but Loud literally throw away that Lotus Map, losing rounds that they use to win. Pearl was also a close map. I can see PRX losing to Loud
Lotus is one of LOUDs preferred maps now though and PRX gets all the ban options. I simply don't see a way Fnatic, EG or LOUD could overcome the map advantage.
Only way I see PRX not winning this tournament is if they somehow flop against EG in the upper bracket bo3.
Rendzin [#6]I disagree bro. I dont wanna sound rude, but Loud literally throw away that Lotus Map, losing rounds that they use to win. Pearl was also a close map. I can see PRX losing to Loud
First of all, it wasnt only LOUD who threw rounds, prx did too. Also u gotta give credit to PRX, their messy playstyle forced LOUD to make a lot of mistakes.
And second, pearl wasnt close at all. PRX just threw some rounds, but when they won rounds, they did it flawlessly.
celal [#2]It is for eg if they win they win, if the lose they are out
Yeah. If eg reach grand finals, with map veto and couple extra days to counter strat even more? they winning.
If EG lose to PRX, they will lose to either of FNC or LOUD.
Ryzen_ [#7]People said the same in Tokyo and they got 3-0'd.
They've only really had 1 solid test this tournament in the form of EDG. DRX is hard to gauge the performance of considering they 13-1d Fnatic then proceeded to flop 2 maps including 1 they could have definitely closed out.
No
They weer obviously worse in Bo5 because of map veto disadvantage
Rendzin [#6]I disagree bro. I dont wanna sound rude, but Loud literally throw away that Lotus Map, losing rounds that they use to win. Pearl was also a close map. I can see PRX losing to Loud
That 1v4 by Something was criminal. If I hadn't seen the nicknames I would have thought it was Furia playing instead of Loud. Loud won that Lotus about 3 times against PRX, but they forgot to tell them 💀💀💀
Ryzen_ [#7]People said the same in Tokyo and they got 3-0'd.
They've only really had 1 solid test this tournament in the form of EDG. DRX is hard to gauge the performance of considering they 13-1d Fnatic then proceeded to flop 2 maps including 1 they could have definitely closed out.
That is why EG should be so favored
They are stomping top teams that are giving other top teams such as FNATIC and LOUD trouble
The fact that they haven’t been tested is a good sign because it means they are that much better
Ryzen_ [#8]Lotus is one of LOUDs preferred maps now though and PRX gets all the ban options. I simply don't see a way Fnatic, EG or LOUD could overcome the map advantage.
Only way I see PRX not winning this tournament is if they somehow flop against EG in the upper bracket bo3.
Tell me on which maps is PRX better than EG
EG map pool has been so much better
ax0788 [#10]Yeah. If eg reach grand finals, with map veto and couple extra days to counter strat even more? they winning.
If EG lose to PRX, they will lose to either of FNC or LOUD.
How come?
Doesn’t make sense
Asuna_Yuuki [#13]That is why EG should be so favored
They are stomping top teams that are giving other top teams such as FNATIC and LOUD trouble
The fact that they haven’t been tested is a good sign because it means they are that much better
Haven't been tested meaning haven't played any teams that should give them any trouble. EDG is the only opponent that should be giving a decent team trouble out of their recent opponents.
And honestly EDG showed decent performances but nothing crazy unless individuals popped off.
Asuna_Yuuki [#13]That is why EG should be so favored
They are stomping top teams that are giving other top teams such as FNATIC and LOUD trouble
The fact that they haven’t been tested is a good sign because it means they are that much better
eg could barely eke out a win against prx with a sub in tokyo and they looked just as good in tokyo.
Asuna_Yuuki [#15]How come?
Doesn’t make sense
it very much does. if they beat prx then they have a massive veto and preparation advantage for the grand finals but if they lose to prx and play in lowers they dont have the preparation advantage nor the veto advantage so it will be harder for them to win.
Asuna_Yuuki [#11]No
They weer obviously worse in Bo5 because of map veto disadvantage
what about in lower final bo5 then? they lost on their map pick and almost lost in that bo5 against prx with cgrs. Also they played fracture in that bo5 but didn't play Haven which is both teams perma ban and bind which is eg's second ban and one of prx's best maps.
Asuna_Yuuki [#14]Tell me on which maps is PRX better than EG
EG map pool has been so much better
Pearl, bind, (probably haven but its hard to tell) and split. This is 3 or 4 out of the 7 maps. I would call them equal on lotus btw.
Ryzen_ [#3]I can't really see PRX losing this tournament now. Loud are on crazy form and Fnatic could potentially hit their ceiling again but I don't think either would be enough to overcome map veto.
EG I just can't see having the experience in BO5s and PRX are just insane right now.
Fully expecting a PRX 2:1 in upper bracket finals, Loud or Fnatic coinflip depending on day performance, then EG struggling in a bo5 compared to a bo3 like Tokyo then PRX hammering the victor in the grand finals.
dont jinx 💀
Ryzen_ [#8]Lotus is one of LOUDs preferred maps now though and PRX gets all the ban options. I simply don't see a way Fnatic, EG or LOUD could overcome the map advantage.
Only way I see PRX not winning this tournament is if they somehow flop against EG in the upper bracket bo3.
that said eg clean 2x0
Ic4rusYam2 [#12]That 1v4 by Something was criminal. If I hadn't seen the nicknames I would have thought it was Furia playing instead of Loud. Loud won that Lotus about 3 times against PRX, but they forgot to tell them 💀💀💀
exactly
Asuna_Yuuki [#14]Tell me on which maps is PRX better than EG
EG map pool has been so much better
Basically all of them tbh. PRX has shown they can take down LOUD while LOUD are on form.
DumboVAL [#27]unpopular oppinion, but PRX and LOUD are the finals favorites
if this happens that would be probably the best matchup for the finals out of the 4 remaining teams.
DumboVAL [#27]unpopular oppinion, but PRX and LOUD are the finals favorites
I don't even want Loud to go to the finals, just eliminating Fnatic would already give me a huge relief in my heart
Ryzen_ [#26]Basically all of them tbh. PRX has shown they can take down LOUD while LOUD are on form.
Haha
PRX would lose Lotus, Ascent, Pearl, Fracture, Split for sure against EG imo
Haven is debatable and PRX is probably better on only Bind for sure
EG has the best map pool itw and their stats prove it
You can predict PRX to win but it is undeniable that EG have looked stronger so far
Asuna_Yuuki [#31]Haha
PRX would lose Lotus, Ascent, Pearl, Fracture, Split for sure against EG imo
Haven is debatable and PRX is probably better on only Bind for sure
EG has the best map pool itw and their stats prove it
You can predict PRX to win but it is undeniable that EG have looked stronger so far
Absolutely delusional. Stats are pointless if the sample opponents are weak. PRX consistently bodying solid teams while EG played 1 decent team and dropped a map when PRX played that same team 2-0.
It's fine to root for a team but don't be daft thinking they're the top team when they have yet to prove it.
Ryzen_ [#32]Absolutely delusional. Stats are pointless if the sample opponents are weak. PRX consistently bodying solid teams while EG played 1 decent team and dropped a map when PRX played that same team 2-0.
It's fine to root for a team but don't be daft thinking they're the top team when they have yet to prove it.
Which solid teams have PRX bodied huh?
Literally only one is LOUD and even LOUD don’t look that insane rn
The truth is EG has played much harder teams in playoffs
EDG and DRX > LOUD and FUT
So tell me, how have PRX played harder teams?
EG better stats against harder teams
Also EG just look straight up better tactically
PRX had to win some insane maps off of heroics which isn’t a consistent way to play the game
Asuna_Yuuki [#33]Which solid teams have PRX bodied huh?
Literally only one is LOUD and even LOUD don’t look that insane rn
The truth is EG has played much harder teams in playoffs
EDG and DRX > LOUD and FUT
So tell me, how have PRX played harder teams?
EG better stats against harder teams
Also EG just look straight up better tactically
PRX had to win some insane maps off of heroics which isn’t a consistent way to play the game
PRX beating LOUD and 2-0 EDG is a bigger accomplishment than DRX and 2-1 EDG. DRX are on the same level as KRU. A decent team for upsets and the occasional Cinderella story but rarely take out actual top teams.
Ryzen_ [#35]PRX beating LOUD and 2-0 EDG is a bigger accomplishment than DRX and 2-1 EDG. DRX are on the same level as KRU. A decent team for upsets and the occasional Cinderella story but rarely take out actual top teams.
Ok but you are acting as if EG are only beating scrubs
Also LOUD are on a similar level to EDG
You are overrating them so hard
And DRX literally topped the group of death and already destroyed LOUD this tournament
Asuna_Yuuki [#37]Ok but you are acting as if EG are only beating scrubs
Also LOUD are on a similar level to EDG
You are overrating them so hard
And DRX literally topped the group of death and already destroyed LOUD this tournament
I take it you haven't been watching the LOUD matches then. They started off absolutely awful, like Tokyo performance, last few matches they've looked like 2022 LOUD. EDG played pretty similarly all tournament.
Ryzen_ [#38]I take it you haven't been watching the LOUD matches then. They started off absolutely awful, like Tokyo performance, last few matches they've looked like 2022 LOUD. EDG played pretty similarly all tournament.
Bro they almost lost to EDG
The fact pf the matter is that LOUD have looked shaky in pretty much all of their games except vs FNC/TL
EDG LOUD and DRX are all on the same level and there is no reason to believe LOUD is that much better than DRX/EDG
Botfragger9000 [#36]Man why is lower final bo5 but not upper, super weird
Because scheduling. There's only enough time slot available for 2 matches to be single day events, so they always choose the last 2 matches of the tournament. UF and LR3 are played on the same day.
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