Nukkye performance against EDG

Cacachocolat

God that was terrible

hekzy

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That's what happens when you break up more than 50% of the top EMEA teams because of franchising.

NaVi, Gambit, Acend, G2, Guild, BIG, OGLU. None of them made franchising.

All these teams got broken up and the players had to get reshuffled into plenty of role clashing monstrosities.

Giants triple flex. Liquid double duelist. Koi triple flex. KC omegalul. Heretics rejects association. Vitality triple Recon.

Cacachocolat

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Next year better

LyCan52

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NaVi

as number 1 navi fan im sad that navi didn't made it to franchising 😿

hekzy

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you do realize i'm speaking about the russian roster with 7ssk7, cloud and so on?
Edit: checked username, single digit IQ account, expected comment

Miting

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yes, he meant rus-speaking roster, the same as you meant that all old team reshuffled

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LyCan52

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lmao what did I say do u even understand? Checked username, single digit iq account, expected comment

Schizophrenic_Brazil_Fan

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Well G2 was dropped by a cringe move.
Fucking Tate? Really?
Like if someone hits it up with a Hollywood celeb will they also get the shaft? Cuz those mfs are like 89% pedos

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hekzy

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Tbh G2 was already going to NA instead of EMEA. So either way the EU G2 roster would break up.

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bonkashi

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honeslty glad they never made it its clear theyre incapable of making a good roster/ ruin every one they pick up

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Crystalzer0

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Kc omegalul had me laughing

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heavnsent

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What does this post even mean or achieve? I don't get it.

New players can form new rosters and create new opportunities to win new trophies. You're acting as if splitting up these teams ruined their chances of success. It's on the teams and the coaches to forge new teams that can win. Fnatic has rebuilt its roster three or four times at this point...

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hekzy

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Why do they all have to start from point 0? Why do you have to ruin a year's worth of work because you want to get fraudulent dogshit orgs like Giants/KOI/KC/TH in Franchising? Why do you have to restart building a team, chemistry and roles from scratch? All of the teams I pointed to were ALREADY better than FUT, they were ranked higher. That's how much the scene regressed because of franchising.

Statistics wise, EMEA only kept 60% of the players that were in VCT EMEA 2022 top10. The least out of any league.

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keener1600

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Every single team you listed above is significantly more dogshit than every EMEA team in franchising.

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hekzy

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Untrue. Most of these teams were international semi-finalists, finalists, champions. G2/Gambit/Acend/Guild alone have more achievements than any non-fnatic EMEA team this year besides NaVi.

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G2 had a fluke run at the beginning of 2022 and maxed out after getting decimated by LOUD and PRX.
Gambit fell off hard af in 2022 not making a single LAN and just being mediocre in general
Acend same thing
Guild couldnt make it out of lcq after peaking in Copenhagen.
Believe me it was much better for the good players on these teams to scatter around different EMEA teams.

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G2 semi finals in champions. Acend champions. Gambit champions. Guild top6 with bot Russ.

The rest of your arguments are how they lost to the best teams in the world in FPX, fnatic, PRX and loud. As if the EMEA teams don't casually lose to bottom feeders in 2023.

And you think the answer was giving franchising spots to dogshit orgs that had dogshit rosters from which they kept fraud players!!! TH with keloqz and KC with newzera, xms and shin had no place in top competition. How is that the answer to not beating Loud and PRX lmfao.

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G2 has never made a champs event in their org history.
Again youre bringing up shit from 2021 which was ancient. Both Acend and Gambit did not make a single lan last year. Idk what makes you think they would still be good in the franchising era. fut navi fnc tl vitality giants and even heretics are better than both of those teams.
Again guild literally couldnt make it out of LCQ even while benching yacine so idk what makes you think they would be any better in franchising.

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CoCloudy

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kc omegalul 💀💀💀💀

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Mortadelo

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The problem of those teams is not role clash. At least not in Giants case

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hekzy

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That's why you got nukkye on sentinel lmfao

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Mortadelo

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Sentinel is the perfect role for Nukkye, literally it could not fit him more. Selfish player that loves to play for himself, alone, focus on his crosshair and play the maximum amount of clutches possible

Hoody specifically wanted to be the sentinel and that's what he asked for when he was signed but with the time the team realized Nukkye is much more fit for it

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hekzy

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Nah, nukkye is much more fitted in a Jingg type role. Let's not kid ourselves as if he isn't one of the best Razes itw. His haydays were when he was W gaming with heretics.

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Mortadelo

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Strongly disagree, Jingg is a pure entry, enters and kills everybody. Nukkye baits his teammates into entering and then kills everybody. Different

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hekzy

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Playing with mixwell and keloqz, way less deserving duelists, ruined him. He needs to get back to entrying like he did before G2.

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Mortadelo

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Nah why do you think they had him on raze on Split for a while and then switched again. Because Fiti has a better Raze? Definitely not Nukkye's Raze is far superior, it's because even with kayo, Fiti had to be the one entering the site

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people wanna act like giants if a failure as if bro they won the real emea lcq slot and played well at champs losing to EDG isn't a bad season for them, if anything their managers are happy asf

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Mortadelo

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Org expectations by the start of the season were "making playoffs". Even qualifying to champs was seen as a major victory and extra achievement, but not the main one.

Valgod

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Its hard to be a site anchor against that playstyle

Chad_Amell

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https://youtu.be/ye5R90LmZHE
He went from this to a liability yesterday

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kaninv

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duelist player on raze vs cypher
incomparable

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Rodu

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I don't rly know about t2 scene in EMEA but any open and commers to look out for next yr? Surely we get rid of frauds like Soulcas, Angel1, mwzera.

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bruhahaha

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EMEA t2 has a lot of insane talents. A lot of well known cracked duelists like keiko, tomaszy, alive. Also some very underrated controllers like DaviH, jlerst, and Ruxic. However it's hard to judge because the skill gap is so variable across the scene.