DUELIST

1. derke
2. kk
3. jingg
4. aspas
5. something
   HM: Keznit

INIT:

1. Leo
2. Ethan
3. D4v41
4. Shao
5. Crashies
   HM: nobody

Sent:

1. Alfa
2. Less
3. RB
4. nAts
5. Boostio
   HM: Suy

Smokes:

1. Mako
2. S0m
   everyone else is trash

jawg, mindfreak, melser

f0rsaken where?
mindfreak?
trent?
valyn?
neT?
jonahp?

Stopped reading at b0tke at #1

bro forgot the flex

c0m > crashies as of now

Aspas > KK and Jinggg

rb is not a senti he's flex

kk at 2 is crazy

Bro forgot mindfreak and boaster in smokes

kk jinggg aspas all better than derke fs, hes still top 5 though

Smokes: Jawgemo and Boaster, Boaster is underrated 🗿 He has a lot of clutches 🗿

cboob deserves to be there, something still needs more time, maybe nervous 🗿

were is cauanzin?

randomperson [#3]

f0rsaken where?
mindfreak?
trent?
valyn?
neT?
jonahp?

Bro is naming the guards roster 💀 it’s champs players dummy

DUELIST

derke
kk
jingg
aspas
something
HM: Keznit

dude you are so fucking dumb

DdoggyVII [#14]

Bro is naming the guards roster 💀 it’s champs players dummy

when did he say champs players?

Domination [#12]

Smokes: Jawgemo and Boaster, Boaster is underrated 🗿 He has a lot of clutches 🗿

cboob deserves to be there, something still needs more time, maybe nervous 🗿

boaster best player on fnc
dont get it twisted

jawn [#2]

jawg, mindfreak, melser

i cant morally put mindfreak top 10

Yistyy [#4]

Stopped reading at b0tke at #1

BLG 2 - 0 NRG

randomperson [#16]

when did he say champs players?

still dont come close lol

titanwithpp [#19]

BLG 2 - 0 NRG

NRG 2-0 DRX

thenutoriousPRO [#18]

i cant morally put mindfreak top 10

put him top 5 then

thenutoriousPRO [#18]

i cant morally put mindfreak top 10

Even though performance says otherwise, I think that there's huge potential in Bang as a smokes player. His mechanics are insane. He just doesn't have that level of consistency as of yet.

moatz [#21]

NRG 2-0 DRX

DRX - in playoffs
NRG - about to lose to ZETA

C0m deserves to be on initiator list atp

titanwithpp [#24]

DRX - in playoffs
NRG - about to lose to ZETA

M3C still a legend tho

I'm starting to like DRX a lot so ion wanna shit on them but NRG still clears

moatz [#26]

I'm starting to like DRX a lot so ion wanna shit on them but NRG still clears

Yeah after getting shit on by ZETA they're clear the arena off of their presence

k0ngk0ng has played 7 international matches and is already getting placed on top 5 duelists itw😭😭😭😭 the overration is insane

ionlyHave1Zuni [#28]

k0ngk0ng has played 7 international matches and is already getting placed on top 5 duelists itw😭😭😭😭 the overration is insane

😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣😹🤣🤣🤣😹🤣😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣😹🤣🤣🤣😹🤣

Semen 1 mechanics >>>> all the duelist frauds, if he is feeling it he clears all with 1 bullet for the head and another 30 for the dead body 🫡+extremely humble 😊

Semen1 owns kang kang and something lil bro remove them off the list

Crashies in 5 even though cloud clears him?

Number_1_Sheydos_Fan [#32]

Crashies in 5 even though cloud clears him?

where sheydos tho thats my question

myQ

lmao the smokes is such a good read

ionlyHave1Zuni [#28]

k0ngk0ng has played 7 international matches and is already getting placed on top 5 duelists itw😭😭😭😭 the overration is insane

bro doesnt know u can watch cn games

Nachtel [#33]

where sheydos tho thats my question

Playing with botxo botfen and dementiamenta, where is yay?

yay is number 1 duelist/sentinel 😡

iluckilyVA [#23]

Even though performance says otherwise, I think that there's huge potential in Bang as a smokes player. His mechanics are insane. He just doesn't have that level of consistency as of yet.

fragging isnt what makes mako and s0m great tbh, it add up but their util and map awareness to use it its on point all the time, im pretty sure their teammates barely call when they need some smoke or stun/flash/molly and they already give it to them without any call.

forsaken can fill 5 role

From Champions:

DEULIST

1. Derke
2. Aspas
3. something
4. Jinggg
5. Zmjkk

INITIATORS

1. Leo
2. Shao
3. crashies
4. Ethan
5. nobody

SENTINELS

1. Alfajer
2. Suygetsu
3. Less
4. nAts
5. Boostio

CONTROLLERS

1. Mako
2. s0m
3. mindfreak
4. Boaster
5. tuyz

FLEX:

1. Chronicle
2. forsaken
3. d4v41
4. smoggy
5. Rb

Sayf > something

Number_1_Sheydos_Fan [#37]

Playing with botxo botfen and dementiamenta, where is yay?

I wasn't making fun of sheydos I was poking fun that you mentioned cloud but not your goat in a top players in every role post

titanwithpp [#27]

Yeah after getting shit on by ZETA they're clear the arena off of their presence

Like DRX did after getting 2-0d by NRG in lowers? 😹😹😹

Nachtel [#43]

I wasn't making fun of sheydos I was poking fun that you mentioned cloud but not your goat in a top players in every role post

Not at champs, thought this list was only champs players

BlueSLYR [#41]

From Champions:

DEULIST

1. Derke
2. Aspas
3. something
4. Jinggg
5. Zmjkk

INITIATORS

1. Leo
2. Shao
3. crashies
4. Ethan
5. nobody

SENTINELS

1. Alfajer
2. Suygetsu
3. Less
4. nAts
5. Boostio

CONTROLLERS

1. Mako
2. s0m
3. mindfreak
4. Boaster
5. tuyz

FLEX:

1. Chronicle
2. forsaken
3. d4v41
4. smoggy
5. Rb

Not a bad list honestly.

I would make a number of small changes but nothing you have rated is “criminally” incorrect.

I would say suygetsu is to highly rated and derke at #1 is a little suspect… but overall a good list.

8/10

moatz [#44]

Like DRX did after getting 2-0d by NRG in lowers? 😹😹😹

NRG will always be in lowers tho, always on their knees

no stax is crazyyyy

thenutoriousPRO [#36]

bro doesnt know u can watch cn games

cn games? Where he played against a bunch of not so good teams? Look at how bili and fpx performed in this tournament. They are the #2,3 in cn games. No matters how well kk played against his own fellow teams back in his country. Those games dont matter at all because there is no good team(top team, world class level) in china except EDG.
If u take a look at his performance in master tokyo and champion, he is absolutely dominating with the op. But when he is not oping he is only average at best. Definitely not top 2 duelist. Top 1 op in this tournament or among all current pro teams, i will give this to him. But in terms of being a duelist(creating space), he is maybe just top 5 or 6. Kk only entry for his team on pearl and i really think he is very average on entrying. A lot of times, he dashes in and he dies literally asap. Every other map, smoogy entries for him and the team.
His jett knives is good, insane op, mid entrying.
His raze is mid af on split compared to other raze.
He still has a lot to improve on. Stop overhyping him and let the boy get gooddder bro. He has the potential. A hell lot.

jawn [#22]

put him top 5 then

W

bro you have to have an hm for someone at initiator role there are so many good ones

thenutoriousPRO [#18]

i cant morally put mindfreak top 10

funny how mindfreak is top 2 in overall stats when eg and fnatic probably face easy opponents

BlueSLYR [#41]

From Champions:

DEULIST

1. Derke
2. Aspas
3. something
4. Jinggg
5. Zmjkk

INITIATORS

1. Leo
2. Shao
3. crashies
4. Ethan
5. nobody

SENTINELS

1. Alfajer
2. Suygetsu
3. Less
4. nAts
5. Boostio

CONTROLLERS

1. Mako
2. s0m
3. mindfreak
4. Boaster
5. tuyz

FLEX:

1. Chronicle
2. forsaken
3. d4v41
4. smoggy
5. Rb

Finally someone with a much more reasonable duelist list. Thank you

Don't put something that high for now, he still need more time to prove himself. Also f0rsaken > Rb

rank igls

imperialhalCEO [#49]

cn games? Where he played against a bunch of not so good teams? Look at how bili and fpx performed in this tournament. They are the #2,3 in cn games. No matters how well kk played against his own fellow teams back in his country. Those games dont matter at all because there is no good team(top team, world class level) in china except EDG.
If u take a look at his performance in master tokyo and champion, he is absolutely dominating with the op. But when he is not oping he is only average at best. Definitely not top 2 duelist. Top 1 op in this tournament or among all current pro teams, i will give this to him. But in terms of being a duelist(creating space), he is maybe just top 5 or 6. Kk only entry for his team on pearl and i really think he is very average on entrying. A lot of times, he dashes in and he dies literally asap. Every other map, smoogy entries for him and the team.
His jett knives is good, insane op, mid entrying.
His raze is mid af on split compared to other raze.
He still has a lot to improve on. Stop overhyping him and let the boy get gooddder bro. He has the potential. A hell lot.

bilibili did aight

Yistyy [#4]

Stopped reading at b0tke at #1

2-0 NRG

titanwithpp [#47]

NRG will always be in lowers tho, always on their knees

Blud's acting like DRX haven't had to bow their heads and leave the stadium quietly at every international tourney since the start of the pro scene 😹😹😹

BlueSLYR [#41]

From Champions:

DEULIST

1. Derke
2. Aspas
3. something
4. Jinggg
5. Zmjkk

INITIATORS

1. Leo
2. Shao
3. crashies
4. Ethan
5. nobody

SENTINELS

1. Alfajer
2. Suygetsu
3. Less
4. nAts
5. Boostio

CONTROLLERS

1. Mako
2. s0m
3. mindfreak
4. Boaster
5. tuyz

FLEX:

1. Chronicle
2. forsaken
3. d4v41
4. smoggy
5. Rb

i think crashies is better than shao personally. also boaster shouldnt be that high imo since idt igling should be counted, but other than that based asf list

donut2612 [#55]

rank igls

very hard since igls have different levels of impact on every team

imperialhalCEO [#49]

cn games? Where he played against a bunch of not so good teams? Look at how bili and fpx performed in this tournament. They are the #2,3 in cn games. No matters how well kk played against his own fellow teams back in his country. Those games dont matter at all because there is no good team(top team, world class level) in china except EDG.
If u take a look at his performance in master tokyo and champion, he is absolutely dominating with the op. But when he is not oping he is only average at best. Definitely not top 2 duelist. Top 1 op in this tournament or among all current pro teams, i will give this to him. But in terms of being a duelist(creating space), he is maybe just top 5 or 6. Kk only entry for his team on pearl and i really think he is very average on entrying. A lot of times, he dashes in and he dies literally asap. Every other map, smoogy entries for him and the team.
His jett knives is good, insane op, mid entrying.
His raze is mid af on split compared to other raze.
He still has a lot to improve on. Stop overhyping him and let the boy get gooddder bro. He has the potential. A hell lot.

If BLG is so bad that their games don't even matter because they're leagues below Tier 1 Valorant I guess NRG is a Tier 5 team

imperialhalCEO [#53]

Finally someone with a much more reasonable duelist list. Thank you

Am I tripping or aren't those 5 the exact same duelists that were mentioned in the post?

donut2612 [#55]

rank igls

how can we know the impact they have lol

BlueSLYR [#41]

From Champions:

DEULIST

1. Derke
2. Aspas
3. something
4. Jinggg
5. Zmjkk

INITIATORS

1. Leo
2. Shao
3. crashies
4. Ethan
5. nobody

SENTINELS

1. Alfajer
2. Suygetsu
3. Less
4. nAts
5. Boostio

CONTROLLERS

1. Mako
2. s0m
3. mindfreak
4. Boaster
5. tuyz

FLEX:

1. Chronicle
2. forsaken
3. d4v41
4. smoggy
5. Rb

see what i mean about smokes lol
everyone on here shits on tuyz but when u think about it he has to be top 5

Breloof [#62]

Am I tripping or aren't those 5 the exact same duelists that were mentioned in the post?

different order. kk at 2nd in the op's list makes 0 sense. His raze mid. His jett without opping is mid. No way he rates kk over jingg and aspas. just no.

iluckilyVA [#23]

Even though performance says otherwise, I think that there's huge potential in Bang as a smokes player. His mechanics are insane. He just doesn't have that level of consistency as of yet.

I AGREE!

thenutoriousPRO [#64]

see what i mean about smokes lol
everyone on here shits on tuyz but when u think about it he has to be top 5

He is the best Harbour hands down. His Astra and Omen are a bit hit and miss, but overall he deserves to be there