...to EU?
Unlike burger lovers like ardis who go to burger country most players play in their home regions. Do you think a top tier Emea team is gonna nab him? Multiple teams like Giants or Koi (if they kick starxo too) would be brought to an elite level with that signing and could seriously compete for trophies if things go right.
DrudaL [#2]Why would he want to downgrade
His team literally top 3 without their pacific mvp
Yeah he should stay in APAC to dominate, its free cash
AstroGalaxy [#4]ardiss will stay in NA as an Agent in the field, we call him "Agent 47"
Agent 470
The number is his weight
DrudaL [#2]Why would he want to downgrade
His team literally top 3 without their pacific mvp
Pacific never wins. If he wants to win a major moving to eu is his best shot. Especially now that Jing is about to leave.
Yes, EMEA teams like KOI should definitely grab players like Jemkin, Vici and kristal, at the bare minimum vici. Vici is like a jack of all trades, can play raze, reyna, sentinels, and brimstone. Almost perfect replacement for starxo/entirety of heretics. Vitality could snag jemkin, also there are some cracked turkish players like Masic/Laurees in ascension.
Congo1 [#17]Pacific never wins. If he wants to win a major moving to eu is his best shot. Especially now that Jing is about to leave.
Prx with something has the potential to win a trophy. they got 3rd with cgrs
BoF7ooM [#18]Yes, EMEA teams like KOI should definitely grab players like Jemkin, Vici and kristal, at the bare minimum vici. Vici is like a jack of all trades, can play raze, reyna, sentinels, and brimstone. Almost perfect replacement for starxo/entirety of heretics. Vitality could snag jemkin, also there are some cracked turkish players like Masic/Laurees in ascension.
bro said lauress
Liem [#19]Prx with something has the potential to win a trophy. they got 3rd with cgrs
Well they have on shot. Champs. After that Jingg is gone.
Theyre not exactly more likely to win without him so if they fail at champs he could easily want to leave
Nachtel [#23]he lived in vladivostok, he's always been closer to china and korea servers than EU
yeah, one day he may go to VCT China like ruler went to JDG to form the most powerful squad of LoL
Nachtel [#23]he lived in vladivostok, he's always been closer to china and korea servers than EU
Ah yes geographical proximity is more relevant that cultural homogenity/affinity?
Congo1 [#25]Ah yes geographical proximity is more relevant that cultural homogenity/affinity?
I swear its always the people who aren't in Europe that always says shit like that LMFAO
"vLaDiVosToK iS iN aSiA -> something is Asian" 😂
dapada [#26]I swear its always the people who aren't in Europe that always says shit like that LMFAO
"vLaDiVosToK iS iN aSiA -> something is Asian" 😂
did somebody say that he's asian? "vladivostok in asia = ppl who live there are asians" ur logic is funny 😂
dapada [#26]I swear its always the people who aren't in Europe that always says shit like that LMFAO
"vLaDiVosToK iS iN aSiA -> something is Asian" 😂
Something is Asian lmao
HE WAS LITERALLY BORN IN THE CONTINENT OF ASIA YOU DAFT FUCK
Asia doesnt just mean China, Japan and Korea smh my head.
Sunrou [#29]did somebody say that he's asian? "vladivostok in asia = ppl who live there are asians" ur logic is funny 😂
#30
one prime example
Nisham [#30]Something is Asian lmao
HE WAS LITERALLY BORN IN THE CONTINENT OF ASIA YOU DAFT FUCK
Asia doesnt just mean China, Japan and Korea smh my head.
he's not asian genius
Nisham [#30]Something is Asian lmao
HE WAS LITERALLY BORN IN THE CONTINENT OF ASIA YOU DAFT FUCK
Asia doesnt just mean China, Japan and Korea smh my head.
😂😂😂😂😂
Sunrou [#33]he's not asian genius
He is asian
just like how mfs that are born in saudi arabia or jordan or palestine are asians.
Im sorry geography is hard.
Nisham [#37]He is asian
just like how mfs that are born in saudi arabia or jordan or palestine are asians.
Im sorry geography is hard.
TF U JUST SAID? Well explain than why he looks russian? Maybe ≈78% (by 2010) of ppl in far eastern russia are ethnicity russian? Explain why in my city Blagoveshchensk everybody doesnt look asian. And u saying to me "learn geography" 😂
Congo1 [#25]Ah yes geographical proximity is more relevant that cultural homogenity/affinity?
i can't believe some idiots actually believe there's a unified, homogenous culture in EMEA or APAC.
WTF is cultural homogenity in the context of 3 continents with hundreds of different ethnicities and cultures LMAO.
If we're talking about "affinity" then Something has never once played in EMEA, he has more affinity with Japanese teams since he's played with them for so long.
Bro's arguing that Something would have more affinity playing for Team Falcons than playing for Sengoku Gaming KEKW.
Europeans are delusional
Nachtel [#39]i can't believe some idiots actually believe there's a unified, homogenous culture in EMEA or APAC.
WTF is cultural homogenity in the context of 3 continents with hundreds of different ethnicities and cultures LMAO.
If we're talking about "affinity" then Something has never once played in EMEA, he has more affinity with Japanese teams since he's played with them for so long.
Bro's arguing that Something would have more affinity playing for Team Falcons than playing for Sengoku Gaming KEKW.
Europeans are delusional
He is russian. Over a 5th of EMEA players are Russian. On KOI he would have Sheydos and trexx. On Giants Cloud. + In Berlin he can socialize with all the other russian players from the other teams.
You my friend are the idiot.
the game has been out for 3 years. This japan shit means nothing. He spent his entire life in russia.
Again on the raad comment. You are dumb as rocks.
Nachtel [#39]i can't believe some idiots actually believe there's a unified, homogenous culture in EMEA or APAC.
WTF is cultural homogenity in the context of 3 continents with hundreds of different ethnicities and cultures LMAO.
If we're talking about "affinity" then Something has never once played in EMEA, he has more affinity with Japanese teams since he's played with them for so long.
Bro's arguing that Something would have more affinity playing for Team Falcons than playing for Sengoku Gaming KEKW.
Europeans are delusional
thank you for saying this
Sunrou [#38]TF U JUST SAID? Well explain than why he looks russian? Maybe ≈78% (by 2010) of ppl in far eastern russia are ethnicity russian? Explain why in my city Blagoveshchensk everybody doesnt look asian. And u saying to me "learn geography" 😂
I never talked abt ethnicity lmao.
I was talking abt geographically, why he plays in Asia and not EU. BECUASE HE LIVES IN ASIA.
"Well explain than why he looks russian?"
Colonialism lmao, hes ethnically Russian yes, but he lives in Asia, has only played in Asia since the beggining and only region he wants to move to is NA.
HE WANTS TO GO TO NA AND NOT EMEA
KEKW
Nachtel [#39]i can't believe some idiots actually believe there's a unified, homogenous culture in EMEA or APAC.
WTF is cultural homogenity in the context of 3 continents with hundreds of different ethnicities and cultures LMAO.
If we're talking about "affinity" then Something has never once played in EMEA, he has more affinity with Japanese teams since he's played with them for so long.
Bro's arguing that Something would have more affinity playing for Team Falcons than playing for Sengoku Gaming KEKW.
Europeans are delusional
Common Nachtel W
Congo1 [#40]He is russian. Over a 5th of EMEA players are Russian. On KOI he would have Sheydos and trexx. On Giants Cloud. + In Berlin he can socialize with all the other russian players from the other teams.
You my friend are the idiot.
the game has been out for 3 years. This japan shit means nothing. He spent his entire life in russia.
Again on the raad comment. You are dumb as rocks.
"He spent his entire life in russia."
He spent his entire life in the eastern part of Russia*
big difference
Nisham [#42]I never talked abt ethnicity lmao.
I was talking abt geographically, why he plays in Asia and not EU. BECUASE HE LIVES IN ASIA.
"Well explain than why he looks russian?"
Colonialism lmao, hes ethnically Russian yes, but he lives in Asia, has only played in Asia since the beggining and only region he wants to move to is NA.HE WANTS TO GO TO NA AND NOT EMEA
KEKW
Congo1 [#40]He is russian. Over a 5th of EMEA players are Russian. On KOI he would have Sheydos and trexx. On Giants Cloud. + In Berlin he can socialize with all the other russian players from the other teams.
You my friend are the idiot.
the game has been out for 3 years. This japan shit means nothing. He spent his entire life in russia.
Again on the raad comment. You are dumb as rocks.
The Japan shit means nothing? my guy he was on Sengoku gaming not even 3 months ago, you're acting like he didn't spend those very same 3 years playing in Japan servers.
If affinity to you means putting all the russians together and expecting them to get along just because they speak the same language then I'm not surprised honestly, you europeans have always had these braindead ideas about ethnic homogenity. Remember when Greece forcefully relocated its Turkish population to Turkey and Turkey relocated its Greek population to Greece? It wasn't even considered a bad thing back then it was just a "population transfer on religious and ethnic grounds"
Nisham [#45]"He spent his entire life in russia."
He spent his entire life in the eastern part of Russia*
big difference
You guys are so depraved of good players. You'll do anything you can to twist the truth to save that subpar region
Congo1 [#48]You guys are so depraved of good players. You'll do anything you can to twist the truth to save that subpar region
Giving a basic fact = Twisting the truth yep
Congo1 [#48]You guys are so depraved of good players. You'll do anything you can to twist the truth to save that subpar region
TL cant win 1 round on haven to close series
FUT got eliminated by korean team
NAVI (5 champion titles) 0-2 vs chinese team
And now we've 5 EU teams in champions just to waste fucking spots
FNATIC is my 2nd favorite team, but even I wanted them to lose just to not waste 1 spot for another trash team
Sunrou [#50]TL cant win 1 round on haven to close series
FUT got eliminated by korean team
NAVI (5 champion titles) 0-2 vs chinese teamAnd now we've 5 EU teams in champions just to waste fucking spots
FNATIC is my 2nd favorite team, but even I wanted them to lose just to not waste 1 spot for another trash team
Eu fans are getting more and more insufferable my god. This is what a football culture do to a mf.
Sunrou [#46]
- I fucking know better than anyone else that he's never played in EU
- There is a black guy coming to you and he asks you: What do you think, am I African or Asian? You probably will say that he's African, but you're wrong, he's Asian cus he was born in Japan. Sounds stupid, doesn't it?
No?
If he was born in Japan his nationality is Japanese, his ethnicity isn't but that doesnt matter at all, the darkskin dude would be culturally Japanese if he grew up there.
Nachtel [#47]The Japan shit means nothing? my guy he was on Sengoku gaming not even 3 months ago, you're acting like he didn't spend those very same 3 years playing in Japan servers.
If affinity to you means putting all the russians together and expecting them to get along just because they speak the same language then I'm not surprised honestly, you europeans have always had these braindead ideas about ethnic homogenity. Remember when Greece forcefully relocated its Turkish population to Turkey and Turkey relocated its Greek population to Greece? It wasn't even considered a bad thing back then it was just a "population transfer on religious and ethnic grounds"
You dumfuk actually bring up forced rehoming as a comparison to an esports pro chosing a job. Nobody is forced here moron. As a 2nd gen immigrant myself i damn well understand what it means to have people you can feel connected to as a minority. Share language and culture. Immediately have a level of closeness to someone due to a common identity. You brainless white ass american talking you know anything about this is peak american liberalist speak.
You really are just showing that you have 0 idea what its like. Because this is not how your life is. Youre probably some bum ass anglo-majority in the US. Or some 10th gen immigrant with 0 roots left.
HE LIVED IN RUSSIA FOR NEARLY 2 DECADES. He played online for Japan for 3 years lmao. Idiot talking about his affinity to Japan lmao.
Now maybe he decides that he is fine without it. That he prefers NA money, or the free wins in pacific, or the exotic culture/lifestyle. We are individuals after all. But that doesnt change that these principles are very real and have a undisputable effect.
Anyway. My main point was EU being far better competetively anyway. 5 Majors > 0
Nisham [#52]No?
If he was born in Japan his nationality is Japanese, his ethnicity isn't but that doesnt matter at all, the darkskin dude would be culturally Japanese if he grew up there.
yea, but 1st thing that u would think after his question is his ethnicity group
Sunrou [#50]TL cant win 1 round on haven to close series
FUT got eliminated by korean team
NAVI (5 champion titles) 0-2 vs chinese teamAnd now we've 5 EU teams in champions just to waste fucking spots
FNATIC is my 2nd favorite team, but even I wanted them to lose just to not waste 1 spot for another trash team
EUROPE 5 MAJORS
ASIA 0 MAJORS
Every other argument is a dumb waste of time
Congo1 [#40]He is russian. Over a 5th of EMEA players are Russian. On KOI he would have Sheydos and trexx. On Giants Cloud. + In Berlin he can socialize with all the other russian players from the other teams.
You my friend are the idiot.
the game has been out for 3 years. This japan shit means nothing. He spent his entire life in russia.
Again on the raad comment. You are dumb as rocks.
not sure if you know but you can socialize with people of other ethnicities
bro is acting like he would never talk to a non russian
he seems to be vibing and having fun on prx + this roster has championship potential so why leave to start from scratch?
Oomaiwa [#44]He once said he wanna plays in NA league tho
Sure. If he prefers the money and lifestyle its a valid choice. Just GG if he wants to win meaningful trophies
Congo1 [#17]Pacific never wins. If he wants to win a major moving to eu is his best shot. Especially now that Jing is about to leave.
Why jingg leaving prx?
Edit: military service. Got it.
Nisham [#52]No?
If he was born in Japan his nationality is Japanese, his ethnicity isn't but that doesnt matter at all, the darkskin dude would be culturally Japanese if he grew up there.
Asians trying to claim an white guy as asian. 2023 is wild
poweredjay [#56]not sure if you know but you can socialize with people of other ethnicities
bro is acting like he would never talk to a non russianhe seems to be vibing and having fun on prx + this roster has championship potential so why leave to start from scratch?
Okay now you are of course being incredibly disingenous. What else can you expect from anxious fanbases defending what they deem theirs.
I just mentioned that it would be a bonus. Not a KO criterion. Plus EU being a far more successful region is an even greater incentive.
Congo1 [#55]EUROPE 5 MAJORS
ASIA 0 MAJORS
Every other argument is a dumb waste of time
should be 3 majors but:
Sunrou [#54]yea, but 1st thing that u would think after his question is his ethnicity group
what is this little fucking imaginary scenario bruh.
Yea I would think hes from somewhere close to equator if he didnt specify.
Why does this matter?
Something wont go to EU.
He will go to NA
Sunrou [#62]should be 3 majors but:
- loud didnt win 2 rounds
- something wasnt in tokyo
come back after champs #6
Nisham [#63]what is this little fucking imaginary scenario bruh.
Yea I would think hes from somewhere close to equator if he didnt specify.
Why does this matter?
Something wont go to EU.
He will go to NA
Why are u saying this to me? Do u think that I want him to go to shit region called EMEA? I dont
Sunrou [#62]should be 3 majors but:
- loud didnt win 2 rounds
- something wasnt in tokyo
come back after champs #6
Congo1 [#53]You dumfuk actually bring up forced rehoming as a comparison to an esports pro chosing a job. Nobody is forced here moron. As a 2nd gen immigrant myself i damn well understand what it means to have people you can feel connected to as a minority. Share language and culture. Immediately have a level of closeness to someone due to a common identity. You brainless white ass american talking you know anything about this is peak american liberalist speak.
You really are just showing that you have 0 idea what its like. Because this is not how your life is. Youre probably some bum ass anglo-majority in the US. Or some 10th gen immigrant with 0 roots left.
HE LIVED IN RUSSIA FOR NEARLY 2 DECADES. He played online for Japan for 3 years lmao. Idiot talking about his affinity to Japan lmao.
Now maybe he decides that he is fine without it. That he prefers NA money, or the free wins in pacific, or the exotic culture/lifestyle. We are individuals after all. But that doesnt change that these principles are very real and have a undisputable effect.
Anyway. My main point was EU being far better competetively anyway. 5 Majors > 0
Allat
Sunrou [#65]Why are u saying this to me? Do u think that I want him to go to shit region called EMEA? I dont
Got you confused w the other idiot
all good
Congo1 [#53]You dumfuk actually bring up forced rehoming as a comparison to an esports pro chosing a job. Nobody is forced here moron. As a 2nd gen immigrant myself i damn well understand what it means to have people you can feel connected to as a minority. Share language and culture. Immediately have a level of closeness to someone due to a common identity. You brainless white ass american talking you know anything about this is peak american liberalist speak.
You really are just showing that you have 0 idea what its like. Because this is not how your life is. Youre probably some bum ass anglo-majority in the US. Or some 10th gen immigrant with 0 roots left.
HE LIVED IN RUSSIA FOR NEARLY 2 DECADES. He played online for Japan for 3 years lmao. Idiot talking about his affinity to Japan lmao.
Now maybe he decides that he is fine without it. That he prefers NA money, or the free wins in pacific, or the exotic culture/lifestyle. We are individuals after all. But that doesnt change that these principles are very real and have a undisputable effect.
Anyway. My main point was EU being far better competetively anyway. 5 Majors > 0
2nd gen immigrant💀
bro I myself immigrated to this country, your spoiled ass doesn't know shit about what it means to integrate to a completely different culture and language, you've known it since you were a baby.
Yes I have things in common with other people from my home country but to just assume ill get along with anyone just because we're both Mexican? stupidest shit I've ever heard
How can someone that never lived in his ethnic country of origin compare himself and his experiences to the guy who lived in Vladivostok for 20 years before going out
Nachtel [#69]2nd gen immigrant💀
bro I myself immigrated to this country, your spoiled ass doesn't know shit about what it means to integrate to a completely different culture and language, you've known it since you were a baby.
Yes I have things in common with other people from my home country but to just assume ill get along with anyone just because we're both Mexican? stupidest shit I've ever heard
How can someone that never lived in his ethnic country of origin compare himself and his experiences to the guy who lived in Vladivostok for 20 years before going out
I never presented it as a law of nature that you always get a long with every single person you dimwitted idiot. Like how disingenous or dumb can a single human even be?
Answer me this. Is there a tendency of people seeking closeness to and finding comfort in socializing with people of similar cultural backrounds/ethinicity? Yes or no?
Like obviously the answer is yes. We can see that in personal experience, data, anything.
So youre either incredibly obtuse or you deliberately and disingenously "misunderstood" the point. Pick your poison.
Gutssz [#16]cNed ---> KOI
something ---> NAVIall good
Navi will never sign Russian players again… in any of their esports teams.
Nisham [#30]Something is Asian lmao
HE WAS LITERALLY BORN IN THE CONTINENT OF ASIA YOU DAFT FUCK
Asia doesnt just mean China, Japan and Korea smh my head.
He is not Asian… ethnically or Nationality either lmao stop this nonsense
RealDeal [#71]Navi will never sign Russian players again… in any of their esports teams.
Then they will fall off eventually.
Congo1 [#70]I never presented it as a law of nature that you always get a long with every single person you dimwitted idiot. Like how disingenous or dumb can a single human even be?
Answer me this. Is there a tendency of people seeking closeness to and finding comfort in socializing with people of similar cultural backrounds/ethinicity? Yes or no?
Like obviously the answer is yes. We can see that in personal experience, data, anything.
So youre either incredibly obtuse or you deliberately and disingenously "misunderstood" the point. Pick your poison.
Can you guys stfu, ur both insufferable
Congo1 [#70]I never presented it as a law of nature that you always get a long with every single person you dimwitted idiot. Like how disingenous or dumb can a single human even be?
Answer me this. Is there a tendency of people seeking closeness to and finding comfort in socializing with people of similar cultural backrounds/ethinicity? Yes or no?
Like obviously the answer is yes. We can see that in personal experience, data, anything.
So youre either incredibly obtuse or you deliberately and disingenously "misunderstood" the point. Pick your poison.
Your entire argument crutches on your own personal anecdotes, and now you say shit like "obviously the answer is yes"
You never said it's a law of nature, yes, but we're talking about a single individual here, talking about tendencies is useless when we have more accurate information about a specific example to base things off of.
There's no need to base your thoughts on such generalized information; it's like getting the area under a curve using only 2 rectangles
Nachtel [#76]Your entire argument crutches on your own personal anecdotes, and now you say shit like "obviously the answer is yes"
You never said it's a law of nature, yes, but we're talking about a single individual here, talking about tendencies is useless when we have more accurate information about a specific example to base things off of.
There's no need to base your thoughts on such generalized information; it's like getting the area under a curve using only 2 rectangles
Lol using tendencies to make predictions is common practice. It is absolutely not useless. Its something to look out for albeit not be sure of.
Personal anecdotes lmao. Do you truly wanna act like this is not supported by data? Once again not a rule of law but a tendency applying to a significant share of minority populations in varying degrees:
There is a very clear tendency of minority populations fostering communities with each other in foreign countries. Like their own churches, sporting clubs, restaurants/bars, little markets delivering home country goods whole city districts sometimes even. All of these places are typical places for them to socalize specifically with each other.
This is reflected in social circles too. You can often see a clear bias towards their own in their friend circles compared to what the local distribution actually looks like. A minority might consitute only 2 % of the local population but the friend circle could be closer to 30-50%.
Now there might be some 5 likes post or 300 views interview hidden of something giving information on his own case that is more valuable than these tendencies but this is NOT just personal anecdotes.
Liem [#19]Prx with something has the potential to win a trophy. they got 3rd with cgrs
It wasn't even close to say this. If it was close you could make a point that something would've changed the outcome.
yaiima0 [#7]That would be a downgrade, cuz EU is one team region.
By this logic Americas, Pacific and China also one team regions.
dayyaan1 [#78]He’ll go where the money is, don’t assume he have some undying loyalty to bring europe more championships just because he has Russian blood lmfao He played in pacific his whole career, he might stay there, unless he gets a better offer from EMEA or AMER
sure. My main angle is EU being the most successful region. So if he wants the highest chance of winning he will go there. Money america. Team familiarity stay at PRX.
RealDeal [#72]He is not Asian… ethnically or Nationality either lmao stop this nonsense
Can you point on the map where the nation of Asia is???
literal strawman lmao, never said he was "ethnically" asian (There is no asian ethnicity you bum its the 2nd most diverse continent after Africa you brainded diseased waste of cum drop)
I also said he was nationally Russian but that he was just born in Asia (WHERE RUSSIA ALSO HAPPENS TO BE YOU 0IQ MONGOLOID) so wtf are you saying
#1: He is not European. He comes from the Asian region of Russia. He's closer to Japan than Europe
#2: He has never played in the EMEA league. How would he "come back" to EU?
#3: There are only 2 good teams in Europe (FNC and liquid obv), neither of which would pick him up, considering they have Sayf and Derke, and his team (downgraded, without him) made top 3 at Tokyo, why would he ever want to move? He has a fantastic team, and he earns enough, going anywhere else would be bad for him.
hekzy [#85]Stop claiming something. He was born, raised and trained in the Asian shard, Asian servers. He's a product of Asian tac-fps. Like gambit/Turks/fnatic are a product of EU.
Thank you for being reasonable bestie
OP is the type of guy to claim Demon1 is russian and an EU import LMFAO
Nisham [#45]"He spent his entire life in russia."
He spent his entire life in the eastern part of Russia*
big difference
if you think that Vladivostok is any different from avg 500-800k city in western part of Russia outside of national republics then you don't know shit abt Russia
Congo1 [#61]Okay now you are of course being incredibly disingenous. What else can you expect from anxious fanbases defending what they deem theirs.
I just mentioned that it would be a bonus. Not a KO criterion. Plus EU being a far more successful region is an even greater incentive.
the difference tho is that prx is already proven - the core was 4th/2nd at masters last year, hell this current version got a podium placement WITHOUT him, so he knows if he's there they have a shot
what has koi proven? what has giants proven?
nothing to do with me being an "overdefending prx fan", i just don't see the reasoning behind your argument
region's success ≠ every team's success
a similar comparison: would ardiis or s0m leave NRG for koi? would mako leave DRX for giants (language barrier aside)? would kk leave EDG for these teams? if the answer is no, idk why you would think smth would do the same
reycac [#36]he counts as import
yes, but no one will try to argue that from home he has 40 ping on Japanese server and 150+ on EU servers
Sharo [#81]By this logic Americas, Pacific and China also one team regions.
They are all 0 team regions
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