people blaming som for the loss but he was the best player if the other members were actually performing it would never have gotten to the point of ot just like against fnatic he was lmsot single-handedly carrying nrg on fracture but there’s only so much 1 player can do against a team like fnatic
So in conclusion I feel like som deserves a better team
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PunisherXPR [#2]s0m was literally their most consistent player since the beginning of America's league. Blaming him for a loss at Masters, when he was one of the biggest (if not the biggest) reason they got to Masters in the first place is braindead
Not since Americas league since lock-in without som they most likely would if lost icebox to koi and wouldn’t of had such a close series with loud at lock-in either
Capricorn [#3]Exactly, all those blaming s0m are fenis fans
literally dumb fans tbh
Why do you think its fns fans lol
shizuku_hajime [#5]Not since Americas league since lock-in without som they most likely would if lost icebox to koi and wouldn’t of had such a close series with loud at lock-in either
Forgot about Lock-In, that is correct.
Nachtel [#7]s0m has finally achieved Marved status it seems
Imagine if som left nrg and went to sentinels in the current double controller meta they would be unstoppable the only problem is zekken is playing great and tenz was starting too play good as well in last few matches of Americas league and realistically speaking they would be the only 2 they could replace given the roles and such
Nachtel [#8]Yes yes, what team should s0m join. C9? 100T? EG? Maybe SEN? There's not a single team that he'll do better in than NRG. He's been adapting very well to the core's system
Low key I feel like he might make eg better if demon1 keeps performing to the low level he has been replace demon1 with som and move jawgemo back to duelist I feel like they might be better as he is the 1 that is actually holding them back at the moment so if demon1 continues to underperform it might actually be a good move
shizuku_hajime [#11]I’m an emea fan just that I feel sorry for him that’s he’s getting all the blame when he’s been carrying them at masters tokyo and carried them at lock-in as well
I dont think he deserves the hate either but to discount the entirety of NRG is just as bad. It's nobody's fault.
NRG is the most well-drilled, disciplined, and tactically adept team in the world; thats how they consistently get top 4 placements despite having a roster that seemingly isn't the best individually.
To say he shouldn't be on this team is to say he shouldn't get better, every other team except for a few has worse strats, but makes up for it with mechanics.
Without NRG, s0m wouldn't have grown this much in the first place
shizuku_hajime [#12]Low key I feel like he might make eg better if demon1 keeps performing to the low level he has been replace demon1 with som and move jawgemo back to duelist I feel like they might be better as he is the 1 that is actually holding them back at the moment so if demon1 continues to underperform it might actually be a good move
Ok now you're trolling; replace demon1?
shizuku_hajime [#10]Imagine if som left nrg and went to sentinels in the current double controller meta they would be unstoppable the only problem is zekken is playing great and tenz was starting too play good as well in last few matches of Americas league and realistically speaking they would be the only 2 they could replace given the roles and such
Yes they would do so well with s0m and no IGL. 100%
This is the EMEA attitude.
Not the best team in the world? We need better aimers!
NRG will be fine. They looked off, s0m looked great.
Maybe at Champs crashies will be the one to really step up and s0m will perform average. It's about who (hopefully all) are really hitting on match day.
I'd be disappointed if this roster changed at all for next year, even ardiis.
babysasuke [#18]This is the EMEA attitude.
Not the best team in the world? We need better aimers!
NRG will be fine. They looked off, s0m looked great.
Maybe at Champs crashies will be the one to really step up and s0m will perform average. It's about who (hopefully all) are really hitting on match day.
I'd be disappointed if this roster changed at all for next year, even ardiis.
another goated babysasuke post!
babysasuke [#18]This is the EMEA attitude.
Not the best team in the world? We need better aimers!
NRG will be fine. They looked off, s0m looked great.
Maybe at Champs crashies will be the one to really step up and s0m will perform average. It's about who (hopefully all) are really hitting on match day.
I'd be disappointed if this roster changed at all for next year, even ardiis.
idk. they need a little more firepower. imagine fnatic switches out boaster and polishes their map pool. then it's really gg
brobeans [#24]idk. they need a little more firepower. imagine fnatic switches out boaster and polishes their map pool. then it's really gg
that only tracks because Boaster is arguably useless on this roster.
What's the point of an IGL that can't shoot, midround, or adapt.
Whole team has been built to cover up his shortcomings, if they drop him for a real 5th, they could actually be the best team in the world.
Nachtel [#8]Yes yes, what team should s0m join. C9? 100T? EG? Maybe SEN? There's not a single team that he'll do better in than NRG. He's been adapting very well to the core's system
He would fit better in Loud, time to learn portuguese
Capricorn [#3]Exactly, all those blaming s0m are fenis fans
literally dumb fans tbh
classic fnatic dummy. literally under s0m's loss tweet, fns said "Absolutely Not."
cant expect much from these br*ts tho 😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹
babysasuke [#25]that only tracks because Boaster is arguably useless on this roster.
What's the point of an IGL that can't shoot, midround, or adapt.
Whole team has been built to cover up his shortcomings, if they drop him for a real 5th, they could actually be the best team in the world.
+something igl tbh
what team is better lol? NRG made top 4 so you can only make an argument for 3 other teams, PRX doesn’t mesh well with s0ms play style, FNC don’t need s0m, and perhaps EG? but EG already have a system that’s working and adding s0m would falter the progress. NRG is the best team for him, they just need more time and to be less sloppy and they are trophy contenders lol
Tashfeen [#30]what team is better lol? NRG made top 4 so you can only make an argument for 3 other teams, PRX doesn’t mesh well with s0ms play style, FNC don’t need s0m, and perhaps EG? but EG already have a system that’s working and adding s0m would falter the progress. NRG is the best team for him, they just need more time and to be less sloppy and they are trophy contenders lol
I dont know why NA like to make changes when they dont need it NRG just need to figure their best comps for all maps and they will do good in champions some few adjustments and they are contenders in my opinion.
brahianv [#32]I dont know why NA like to make changes when they dont need it NRG just need to figure their best comps for all maps and they will do good in champions some few adjustments and they are contenders in my opinion.
exactly, this is what happened to sentinels, extremely talented roster, too many changes = little to no comfort and experience with each other, too little time to develop a unique play style and strats. hope everything looks cleaner by Champs
UBClears [#34]While s0m is definitely a strong player, you are also largely defined by how you perform in clutch situations.
This was a huge misplay from s0m. Put 10 other players in the same situation and I’d be curious to see how many make the same misplay.
But that’s not what I’m saying, I’m saying they would never have even gotten to overtime without som and in that very same round he is the reason it even came down to a 1v1 as well yes he made a misplay but if his team was playing better and not relying on him soo much it would not of even gotten to ot so that would not of happened
Also Fns was topfragging so he and Chet ain’t the problem
Ardiis
Crashies
Victor
They were the issue, while Ardiis just looks like he doesn’t have it in him to play at the proper level needed
Crashies and Victor seem to have run out of “juice” it’s weird cuz we know how good they can be, they just… don’t? Kinda like if someone broke usain bolts legs
shizuku_hajime [#38]But that’s not what I’m saying, I’m saying they would never have even gotten to overtime without som and in that very same round he is the reason it even came down to a 1v1 as well yes he made a misplay but if his team was playing better and not relying on him soo much it would not of even gotten to ot so that would not of happened
Yes I agree, but the fact is it was still a huge misplay on s0m’s part in a critical moment.
If you get 4 kills in a round, but then grief the last kill and up losing the round, you can’t blame your teammates for losing it.
Schizophrenic_Brazil_Fan [#41]Also Fns was topfragging so he and Chet ain’t the problem
Ardiis
Crashies
VictorThey were the issue, while Ardiis just looks like he doesn’t have it in him to play at the proper level needed
Crashies and Victor seem to have run out of “juice” it’s weird cuz we know how good they can be, they just… don’t? Kinda like if someone broke usain bolts legs
The whole of the optic core is nearing the twilight of their careers.
Their experience is part of what makes them so calm and methodical in how they practice and execute their plans
But it also means that they are mechanically not all there as much as a lot of the scene's younger players
babysasuke [#25]that only tracks because Boaster is arguably useless on this roster.
What's the point of an IGL that can't shoot, midround, or adapt.
Whole team has been built to cover up his shortcomings, if they drop him for a real 5th, they could actually be the best team in the world.
I dont understand why everyone trying to replace a pure IGL on a great team just because they think "they still need more firepower."
I think the moment fnatic drop boaster/optic drop fns or any team drop their IGL who with them from the start, they gonna start falling off.
Even in csgo, a team filled with 5 great firepower still doesnt guarantee anything.
Prontera [#44]I dont understand why everyone trying to replace a pure IGL on a great team just because they think "they still need more firepower."
I think the moment fnatic drop boaster/optic drop fns or any team drop their IGL who with them from the start, they gonna start falling off.
Even in csgo, a team filled with 5 great firepower still doesnt guarantee anything.
Boaster makes babycocksucka jealous and insecure
UBClears [#42]Yes I agree, but the fact is it was still a huge misplay on s0m’s part in a critical moment.
If you get 4 kills in a round, but then grief the last kill and up losing the round, you can’t blame your teammates for losing it.
The fact is though that it was a 1v4 lol, he had no business even getting it that close
He is the most consistent in the team for sure. I can't remember a single bad game from him since Lock in. That last game is literally the only time when he received criticism for his performance. Before that no one was dare to say "Wtf was he doing?" if you know what I mean lolz. I'm really frustrated for Vic, Ardiis and Crashies performance this event though. I hope they step it up in champs. I'm sure they can be way better than this.
Nachtel [#43]The whole of the optic core is nearing the twilight of their careers.
Their experience is part of what makes them so calm and methodical in how they practice and execute their plans
But it also means that they are mechanically not all there as much as a lot of the scene's younger players
Top level IGLs prove their value by their capability to withstand and change the meta. I believe FNS can survive in the scene, his value is his mind, and his aim is getting gradually better which is great for him, the problem is that he will need to replace his teammates eventually and gradually, since their value relies on aim
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