2nd Berlin 2021
cursed champions 2021
1st masters Iceland 2022
3rd masters Copenhagen
2nd Champions 2022
cursed LOCK//IN
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xD1LL4N [#8]Their win was down to EU being hard nerfed But respect for the consistency, something no other team has achieved to that scale
EU isnt that good
OpTic would’ve likely won Masters Iceland even if EU was there in full force
babysasuke [#10]LOCK IN wasnt cursed, if they beat LOUD they would have won the event (doesn't matter though, just a mickey mouse tournament)
^^
Asuna_Yuuki [#2]They are the GOATS
Victor FNS and crashies are the three best players of all time
Without fns,
Na would look so bad from end2021-entirety of 2022,
EG has come tho
Just one man
Asuna_Yuuki [#12]EU isnt that good
OpTic would’ve likely won Masters Iceland even if EU was there in full force
What is Optic core record against EMEA teams again?
tbf, nrg doesnt look as good as optic. ardiis isnt consistent. also looking at who they played, it isn't impressive tbh. they played navi who r so overrated rn. t1 also, t1 arent really doing too well. (lost a map to both of them btw). lost to fnatic 2-0, if they were as good as the old optic, shoulda at least made it more competitive. beat drx 2-0, drx looking shaky, losing to paper rex with a sub. nrg 2-1 team liquid, pretty gud but eg demolished them while nrg vs tl ended in 2-1.
333triplethreat [#17]tbf, nrg doesnt look as good as optic. ardiis isnt consistent. also looking at who they played, it isn't impressive tbh. they played navi who r so overrated rn. t1 also, t1 arent really doing too well. (lost a map to both of them btw). lost to fnatic 2-0, if they were as good as the old optic, shoulda at least made it more competitive. beat drx 2-0, drx looking shaky, losing to paper rex with a sub. nrg 2-1 team liquid, pretty gud but eg demolished them while nrg vs tl ended in 2-1.
thats cool and all but doesn’t change the fact that this core is the most successful that we have seen in valo so far :)
aylez [#19]thats cool and all but doesn’t change the fact that this core is the most successful that we have seen in valo so far :)
u cant really say optic core=nrg core. u need yay in there, he was carrying optic most of them time. but yeh optic core is really gud
SigmaMale [#18]Riot created franchising just to kill the optic team because they were too dominant
Too dominant at not winning anything sadly
xD1LL4N [#16]What is Optic core record against EMEA teams again?
Its 5-5
And 3 of those teams went on to win the tournament
This OpTic/NRG is bad against EMEA narrative is outdated and bad
sentinelmain377 [#15]Without fns,
Na would look so bad from end2021-entirety of 2022,
EG has come tho
Just one man
At champs 2022 na looked decent overall
Asuna_Yuuki [#22]Its 5-5
And 3 of those teams went on to win the tournament
This OpTic/NRG is bad against EMEA narrative is outdated and bad
5-6
Lock-in inflated their stats
babysasuke [#10]LOCK IN wasnt cursed, if they beat LOUD they would have won the event (doesn't matter though, just a mickey mouse tournament)
if it wasnt a mickey mouse tournament the finals would be NRG vs LOUD again
Asuna_Yuuki [#22]Its 5-5
And 3 of those teams went on to win the tournament
This OpTic/NRG is bad against EMEA narrative is outdated and bad
Damn me personally Dill0n I wouldn't have let him cook me like that but that's just me, I guess.
xD1LL4N [#25]5-6
Lock-in inflated their stats
How is it 5-6?
Gambit > ENVY
Acend > ENVY
Guild > OpTic
FPX > Optic
TL < OpTic
Koi < NRG
Giants < NRG
NaVi < NRG
FNC > NRG
TL < NRG
DO THE math bro its 5-5
I remember every match optic core has played since Berlin
333triplethreat [#17]tbf, nrg doesnt look as good as optic. ardiis isnt consistent. also looking at who they played, it isn't impressive tbh. they played navi who r so overrated rn. t1 also, t1 arent really doing too well. (lost a map to both of them btw). lost to fnatic 2-0, if they were as good as the old optic, shoulda at least made it more competitive. beat drx 2-0, drx looking shaky, losing to paper rex with a sub. nrg 2-1 team liquid, pretty gud but eg demolished them while nrg vs tl ended in 2-1.
Tbf, if you analyze this way every run, it looks like they fluked all their placements. But in reality is that most team fall off after a couple toruneys and struggle to be this consistent + although these teams look bad, they are here over other teams, and have something that makes them kinda good. If nrg was bad, they wouldnt have escaped groups
Dolphin [#29]Tbf, if you analyze this way every run, it looks like they fluked all their placements. But in reality is that most team fall off after a couple toruneys and struggle to be this consistent + although these teams look bad, they are here over other teams, and have something that makes them kinda good. If nrg was bad, they wouldnt have escaped groups
? compared to the old optic, they would get rolled over. all the teams they faced r ass, except for fnatic which they only got 13 rounds in 2 maps. its like optic is in the NBA while nrg r like 3rd graders playing basketball against first graders or something, yeah they r gonna win but they arent gud
GooberBoy [#32]Say they win this event, who between Crashies and Victor is called the best player of all time? I think FNS is obviously called GOAT IGL(probably already is) but it would be between those two, for sure overtaking chronicle or Yay in my mind.
It's a team game, GOAT Duo
Asuna_Yuuki [#28]How is it 5-6?
Gambit > ENVY
Acend > ENVY
Guild > OpTic
FPX > Optic
TL < OpTic
Koi < NRG
Giants < NRG
NaVi < NRG
FNC > NRG
TL < NRGDO THE math bro its 5-5
I remember every match optic core has played since Berlin
dw, this is the same guy that cares so much about lock in counting towards EMEA's throphy count. Dont deal with this mofo.
Dolphin [#23]At champs 2022 na looked decent overall
?????????? 100t grouped and xset 6th skulllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
Klick1108 [#34]dw, this is the same guy that cares so much about lock in counting towards EMEA's throphy count. Dont deal with this mofo.
Hahaha the cope is crazy.
If your team won Lock in, you'd definitely be counting it.
Stay mad bozo man.
TipTop [#35]?????????? 100t grouped and xset 6th skulllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
They managed to beat a couple of emea a couple of times. It wasnt as disaterous as other times
333triplethreat [#30]? compared to the old optic, they would get rolled over. all the teams they faced r ass, except for fnatic which they only got 13 rounds in 2 maps. its like optic is in the NBA while nrg r like 3rd graders playing basketball against first graders or something, yeah they r gonna win but they arent gud
clueless
Golemaxxx [#21]Too dominant at not winning anything sadly
lmfaooo, better than the french; who do you have? KC? kkkkkkkkk
GooberBoy [#32]Say they win this event, who between Crashies and Victor is called the best player of all time? I think FNS is obviously called GOAT IGL(probably already is) but it would be between those two, for sure overtaking chronicle or Yay in my mind.
They won’t win though everytime chronicle plays against them victor gets exposed and you can’t say they are better than chronicle as chronicle has played on lan 4 times if you include emea league and his worst position tournament was getting to final and losing 3-1.
while the old optic core lost 3 matches in coppenhagen alone plus both times when crashies has went up against Leo he can’t perform to his usual level either those 2 have played nrg a total of 3 times and never dropped a map to them.
they are 7-0 nrg can’t win as long as fnatic are in the tournament as they are the anti-nrg/optic/envy their players and catching staff are the perfect counters for nrg
Ailed [#39]☹️
Tbf the optic cores natural enemy is actually fnatic especially the current nrg as chronicle and Leo both times they’ve played them have managed to keep victor or crashies quite quiet even when they were on gambit and guild respectively
shizuku_hajime [#42]They won’t win though everytime chronicle plays against them victor gets exposed and you can’t say they are better than chronicle as chronicle has played on lan 4 times if you include emea league and his worst position tournament was getting to final and losing 3-1.
while the old optic core lost 3 matches in coppenhagen alone plus both times when crashies has went up against Leo he can’t perform to his usual level either those 2 have played nrg a total of 3 times and never dropped a map to them.
they are 7-0 nrg can’t win as long as fnatic are in the tournament as they are the anti-nrg/optic/envy their players and catching staff are the perfect counters for nrg
If they won this tourney they'd have as many top 2 finishes as Chronicle has tournaments played at. Obviously they'd have to win and the odds aren't in their favor but those three would be far more decorated than any player in history, not even close.
Klick1108 [#41]lmfaooo, better than the french; who do you have? KC? kkkkkkkkk
Imagine being so dumb that you compare NA to a small country like France bro, we just don't have enough good players in Valorant
GooberBoy [#45]If they won this tourney they'd have as many top 2 finishes as Chronicle has tournaments played at. Obviously they'd have to win and the odds aren't in their favor but those three would be far more decorated than any player in history, not even close.
That’s the point though those THREE not 1 chronicle has went from gambit where he was speaking comms in Russian all the time to fnatic where he had to adapt and comm in English and his level hasn’t dropped he is still performing to that level the difficulty of that is ridiculously hard and if nrg wins but chronicle still outperforms them then you can’t call them the goats as chronicle would of outperfomed them 3 times in a row 3/3 games they are the most overrated players in history they are great but not goats they have been destroyed by leo and chronicle 2 times each
GooberBoy [#45]If they won this tourney they'd have as many top 2 finishes as Chronicle has tournaments played at. Obviously they'd have to win and the odds aren't in their favor but those three would be far more decorated than any player in history, not even close.
it's pretty impressive considering they typically play really close games. but i think 2024 and beyond they are probably going to get overshadowed by new talent, the game is becoming incredibly competitive, with china and pacific scenes in particular
shizuku_hajime [#49]That’s the point though those THREE not 1 chronicle has went from gambit where he was speaking comms in Russian all the time to fnatic where he had to adapt and comm in English and his level hasn’t dropped he is still performing to that level the difficulty of that is ridiculously hard and if nrg wins but chronicle still outperforms them then you can’t call them the goats as chronicle would of outperfomed them 3 times in a row 3/3 games they are the most overrated players in history they are great but not goats they have been destroyed by leo and chronicle 2 times each
I'm sorry I'm not gonna argue with someone who doesn't know how to use a period good lord dawg
Golemaxxx [#36]Hahaha the cope is crazy.
If your team won Lock in, you'd definitely be counting it.
Stay mad bozo man.
yawn, why they saying that lock in inflated NRG stats but are so adamant that FNC won lock in?
"cope" when xD1LL4N only tries to start beef with everyone. Ur clueless
Klick1108 [#52]yawn, why they saying that lock in inflated NRG stats but are so adamant that FNC won lock in?
"cope" when xD1LL4N only tries to start beef with everyone. Ur clueless
U can't say Lock in is a mickey mouse, all tournaments count.
Golemaxxx [#46]Imagine being so dumb that you compare NA to a small country like France bro, we just don't have enough good players in Valorant
we just don't have enough good players in Valorant
we know
Golemaxxx [#46]Imagine being so dumb that you compare NA to a small country like France bro, we just don't have enough good players in Valorant
yawn , sounds like a skill issue
Don't look down on other teams when your country's teams all suck.
Go eat your baguettes you bozo
Golemaxxx [#53]U can't say Lock in is a mickey mouse, all tournaments count.
then why are they saying that lock in inflated stats? Gotta make up their mind and choose
Klick1108 [#56]then why are they saying that lock in inflated stats? Gotta make up their mind and choose
because they are dumb
333triplethreat [#48]#18
the meta has changed. Also, Optic was also known for lower bracket runs not upper bracket. The only ran an upper bracket run once (FNS talks about it in the documentary where he said that it was nice to finally have more time for prac and analyzing teams rather than playing in lower bracket)
NRG beat every team in Americas other than LEV (their scrim partners) and MIBR. So unless all of Americas is ass, then they did beat some good teams.
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