TL vs T1/EDG
Edit: FNC 2:1 NRG
crashies
NRG
|
FiNESSE
NRG
|
s0m
NRG
|
ardiis
NRG
|
Victor
NRG
|
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Boaster
FNC
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5
5
+0
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4
6
-2
|
4
8
-4
|
6
2
+4
|
5
2
+3
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Derke
FNC
|
3
4
-1
|
6
0
+6
|
8
6
+2
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9
5
+4
|
3
9
-6
|
Chronicle
FNC
|
9
5
+4
|
10
3
+7
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9
4
+5
|
5
6
-1
|
5
5
+0
|
Alfajer
FNC
|
8
1
+7
|
7
3
+4
|
5
7
-2
|
8
1
+7
|
9
4
+5
|
Leo
FNC
|
4
3
+1
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5
2
+3
|
6
3
+3
|
4
2
+2
|
9
3
+6
|
crashies
NRG
|
FiNESSE
NRG
|
s0m
NRG
|
ardiis
NRG
|
Victor
NRG
|
|
Boaster
FNC
|
1
0
+1
|
|
1
1
+0
|
3
0
+3
|
1
0
+1
|
Derke
FNC
|
0
1
-1
|
3
0
+3
|
0
2
-2
|
1
3
-2
|
2
2
+0
|
Chronicle
FNC
|
|
1
0
+1
|
0
1
-1
|
0
1
-1
|
2
1
+1
|
Alfajer
FNC
|
1
1
+0
|
|
1
2
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
3
0
+3
|
Leo
FNC
|
1
0
+1
|
|
|
|
2
0
+2
|
crashies
NRG
|
FiNESSE
NRG
|
s0m
NRG
|
ardiis
NRG
|
Victor
NRG
|
|
Boaster
FNC
|
1
0
+1
|
|
|
|
1
0
+1
|
Derke
FNC
|
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
Chronicle
FNC
|
|
|
|
|
|
Alfajer
FNC
|
|
|
|
|
|
Leo
FNC
|
|
|
|
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Boaster
FNC
|
|
4
|
2
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
50
|
6
|
1
|
Chronicle
FNC
|
|
6
|
4
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
72
|
4
|
1
|
Leo
FNC
|
|
6
|
1
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
65
|
6
|
0
|
Derke
FNC
|
|
6
|
3
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
55
|
1
|
1
|
Alfajer
FNC
|
|
5
|
5
|
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
68
|
3
|
0
|
crashies
NRG
|
|
2
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
37
|
4
|
1
|
ardiis
NRG
|
|
2
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
40
|
0
|
0
|
Victor
NRG
|
|
3
|
2
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
47
|
3
|
0
|
FiNESSE
NRG
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
35
|
2
|
1
|
s0m
NRG
|
|
7
|
1
|
|
|
1
|
|
|
|
|
44
|
2
|
1
|
crashies
NRG
|
FiNESSE
NRG
|
s0m
NRG
|
ardiis
NRG
|
Victor
NRG
|
|
Boaster
FNC
|
3
3
+0
|
3
3
+0
|
4
6
-2
|
3
2
+1
|
2
1
+1
|
Derke
FNC
|
2
3
-1
|
2
0
+2
|
2
5
-3
|
5
4
+1
|
2
4
-2
|
Chronicle
FNC
|
4
3
+1
|
5
2
+3
|
3
3
+0
|
4
4
+0
|
1
3
-2
|
Alfajer
FNC
|
4
0
+4
|
3
1
+2
|
3
6
-3
|
4
0
+4
|
4
3
+1
|
Leo
FNC
|
4
2
+2
|
5
2
+3
|
4
1
+3
|
1
2
-1
|
6
1
+5
|
crashies
NRG
|
FiNESSE
NRG
|
s0m
NRG
|
ardiis
NRG
|
Victor
NRG
|
|
Boaster
FNC
|
1
0
+1
|
|
1
0
+1
|
2
0
+2
|
|
Derke
FNC
|
0
1
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
0
1
-1
|
1
2
-1
|
2
0
+2
|
Chronicle
FNC
|
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
1
1
+0
|
Alfajer
FNC
|
1
0
+1
|
|
0
2
-2
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
Leo
FNC
|
1
0
+1
|
|
|
|
1
0
+1
|
crashies
NRG
|
FiNESSE
NRG
|
s0m
NRG
|
ardiis
NRG
|
Victor
NRG
|
|
Boaster
FNC
|
1
0
+1
|
|
|
|
1
0
+1
|
Derke
FNC
|
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
Chronicle
FNC
|
|
|
|
|
|
Alfajer
FNC
|
|
|
|
|
|
Leo
FNC
|
|
|
|
|
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2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Boaster
FNC
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3
Round 3
Victor
FiNESSE
Round 17
ardiis
s0m
Round 18
crashies
Victor
|
1
Round 14
ardiis
s0m
crashies
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
46
|
1
|
1
|
Chronicle
FNC
|
|
4
Round 8
Victor
crashies
Round 17
crashies
FiNESSE
Round 19
ardiis
s0m
Round 21
ardiis
FiNESSE
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
45
|
4
|
1
|
Leo
FNC
|
|
4
Round 11
crashies
s0m
Round 12
FiNESSE
crashies
Round 13
crashies
s0m
Round 14
Victor
FiNESSE
|
1
Round 6
Victor
s0m
FiNESSE
|
|
|
1
Round 4
s0m
|
|
|
|
|
84
|
0
|
0
|
Derke
FNC
|
|
2
Round 8
s0m
FiNESSE
Round 22
crashies
ardiis
|
1
Round 16
ardiis
crashies
s0m
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
43
|
1
|
0
|
Alfajer
FNC
|
|
1
Round 13
ardiis
Victor
|
2
Round 3
crashies
s0m
ardiis
Round 21
Victor
s0m
crashies
|
|
|
|
1
Round 13
Victor
ardiis
|
|
|
|
65
|
2
|
0
|
crashies
NRG
|
|
1
Round 11
Chronicle
Boaster
|
1
Round 19
Leo
Chronicle
Boaster
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
37
|
1
|
0
|
ardiis
NRG
|
|
2
Round 3
Derke
Chronicle
Round 7
Boaster
Chronicle
|
1
Round 13
Leo
Chronicle
Boaster
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
53
|
0
|
0
|
Victor
NRG
|
|
2
Round 4
Derke
Boaster
Round 12
Alfajer
Chronicle
|
1
Round 11
Derke
Leo
Alfajer
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
42
|
3
|
0
|
FiNESSE
NRG
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
32
|
2
|
0
|
s0m
NRG
|
|
5
Round 1
Boaster
Alfajer
Round 2
Boaster
Alfajer
Round 4
Alfajer
Chronicle
Round 5
Alfajer
Chronicle
Round 12
Boaster
Leo
|
1
Round 18
Boaster
Derke
Alfajer
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
57
|
2
|
1
|
crashies
NRG
|
FiNESSE
NRG
|
s0m
NRG
|
ardiis
NRG
|
Victor
NRG
|
|
Boaster
FNC
|
2
2
+0
|
1
3
-2
|
0
2
-2
|
3
0
+3
|
3
1
+2
|
Derke
FNC
|
1
1
+0
|
4
0
+4
|
6
1
+5
|
4
1
+3
|
1
5
-4
|
Chronicle
FNC
|
5
2
+3
|
5
1
+4
|
6
1
+5
|
1
2
-1
|
4
2
+2
|
Alfajer
FNC
|
4
1
+3
|
4
2
+2
|
2
1
+1
|
4
1
+3
|
5
1
+4
|
Leo
FNC
|
0
1
-1
|
|
2
2
+0
|
3
0
+3
|
3
2
+1
|
crashies
NRG
|
FiNESSE
NRG
|
s0m
NRG
|
ardiis
NRG
|
Victor
NRG
|
|
Boaster
FNC
|
|
|
0
1
-1
|
1
0
+1
|
1
0
+1
|
Derke
FNC
|
|
2
0
+2
|
0
1
-1
|
0
1
-1
|
0
2
-2
|
Chronicle
FNC
|
|
1
0
+1
|
0
1
-1
|
|
1
0
+1
|
Alfajer
FNC
|
0
1
-1
|
|
1
0
+1
|
|
2
0
+2
|
Leo
FNC
|
|
|
|
|
1
0
+1
|
crashies
NRG
|
FiNESSE
NRG
|
s0m
NRG
|
ardiis
NRG
|
Victor
NRG
|
|
Boaster
FNC
|
|
|
|
|
|
Derke
FNC
|
|
|
|
|
|
Chronicle
FNC
|
|
|
|
|
|
Alfajer
FNC
|
|
|
|
|
|
Leo
FNC
|
|
|
|
|
|
2K | 3K | 4K | 5K | 1v1 | 1v2 | 1v3 | 1v4 | 1v5 | ECON | PL | DE | ||
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Boaster
FNC
|
|
1
Round 10
Victor
ardiis
|
1
Round 12
FiNESSE
Victor
crashies
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
53
|
5
|
0
|
Chronicle
FNC
|
|
2
Round 9
s0m
ardiis
Round 17
FiNESSE
Victor
|
4
Round 6
Victor
crashies
FiNESSE
Round 8
Victor
crashies
s0m
Round 10
s0m
FiNESSE
crashies
Round 13
Victor
FiNESSE
s0m
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
98
|
0
|
0
|
Leo
FNC
|
|
2
Round 1
Victor
ardiis
Round 15
ardiis
Victor
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
45
|
6
|
0
|
Derke
FNC
|
|
4
Round 1
FiNESSE
s0m
Round 2
FiNESSE
s0m
Round 6
ardiis
s0m
Round 11
Victor
s0m
|
2
Round 5
s0m
ardiis
FiNESSE
Round 17
s0m
ardiis
crashies
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
67
|
0
|
1
|
Alfajer
FNC
|
|
4
Round 13
crashies
ardiis
Round 14
s0m
ardiis
Round 15
FiNESSE
crashies
Round 16
Victor
crashies
|
3
Round 3
s0m
Victor
ardiis
Round 7
Victor
ardiis
crashies
Round 9
Victor
FiNESSE
Victor
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
71
|
1
|
0
|
crashies
NRG
|
|
1
Round 14
Chronicle
Boaster
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
37
|
3
|
1
|
ardiis
NRG
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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27
|
0
|
0
|
Victor
NRG
|
|
1
Round 16
Derke
Boaster
|
1
Round 4
Derke
Leo
Alfajer
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
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51
|
0
|
0
|
FiNESSE
NRG
|
|
1
Round 3
Alfajer
Boaster
|
|
|
|
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1
Round 3
Boaster
Alfajer
|
|
|
|
37
|
0
|
1
|
s0m
NRG
|
|
2
Round 3
Derke
Leo
Round 15
Leo
Alfajer
|
|
|
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1
Round 15
Alfajer
|
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|
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31
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0
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0
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torbjorn [#2]Hello. I think This game will be Evil Genisses VS Team Liquid. EG will defeat Liquid 2-1 to Continue bracket upwards to Final but maybe lose next game? Thank you.
Hello. I think you’re going to be extremely wrong. Thank you.
Nishntr [#1]TL vs T1/EDG
Edit: FNC 2:1 NRG
bro rly put these bookmarks down so he could have his preds at the top
torbjorn [#2]Hello. I think This game will be Evil Genisses VS Team Liquid. EG will defeat Liquid 2-1 to Continue bracket upwards to Final but maybe lose next game? Thank you.
Hello. I was wrong. Sorry.
acels [#24]NRG THANKING GOD THAT ITS DOUBLE ELIMINATION LMFAO. FNATIC 2-0
boaster is shitting his pants rn lil bro
DarkSoul101 [#47]You're saying as if NRG is even close to Fnatic
indeed nrg might have upper hand against fnc. emea competition standard is dog water and teams like fnc and tl never got to face the real fight against all other emea teams. nrg on the other hand faced many strong and dynamic teams in americas league.
Nishntr [#1]TL vs T1/EDG
Edit: FNC 2:1 NRG
FNC might actually lose here.
If youncheck boaster TikTok you will see he literally posted 5 videos in a span of 4 days, this is too much considering most of the teams pracc 12+ hours a day
trembolonaRage [#69]FNC might actually lose here.
If youncheck boaster TikTok you will see he literally posted 5 videos in a span of 4 days, this is too much considering most of the teams pracc 12+ hours a day
That’s the secret to fnatic being so ridiculously broken you are they don’t prac they all their strats are made by mini and boaster and the coaching staff without any prac because if you don’t know what you are gonna do then how the hell can your opponent know what you are gonna do
easy for NA
NRLeakers is the best valorant team in NA. They gained notoriety and international recognition with their old roster, which featured the renowned player Y0y. At the time, they played for OpTech Gaming, an organization that is currently inactive. Their very dominant play style relied heavily on their IGL FNS, also known as "The GOAT", which devoted 100% of his huge brain to strategizing and adapting the game midround, at the expense of completely abdicating his aim.
Among all the strategies used by OpTech Gaming, the following two stand out the most: Being carried by the then best player in the world, known as "One Trick Chamber Abuser"; and ask for tech pause whenever in trouble.
Nowadays, the current NRLeakers roster has the import of the prestigious player Fartiis. This distinguished heavyweight player claims that the reason they lost some matches is due to opposing teams leaking their scrim VODs, which is definitely true, and not the other way around as other teams make it out to be.
Although the team has already been involved in several dramas, they are true warriors willing to overcome everything and everyone. The competition is over.
trembolonaRage [#69]FNC might actually lose here.
If youncheck boaster TikTok you will see he literally posted 5 videos in a span of 4 days, this is too much considering most of the teams pracc 12+ hours a day
If you check FNC last doc, they practice 7 days a week most of the time. most do only for 6 days.
EMEAstan [#71]Free for FNC lol, time for NA to see how good our best teams are 😹😹
Which is only FNC LMAO
Jawa [#72]easy for NA
NRLeakers is the best valorant team in NA. They gained notoriety and international recognition with their old roster, which featured the renowned player Y0y. At the time, they played for OpTech Gaming, an organization that is currently inactive. Their very dominant play style relied heavily on their IGL FNS, also known as "The GOAT", which devoted 100% of his huge brain to strategizing and adapting the game midround, at the expense of completely abdicating his aim.
Among all the strategies used by OpTech Gaming, the following two stand out the most: Being carried by the then best player in the world, known as "One Trick Chamber Abuser"; and ask for tech pause whenever in trouble.
Nowadays, the current NRLeakers roster has the import of the prestigious player Fartiis. This distinguished heavyweight player claims that the reason they lost some matches is due to opposing teams leaking their scrim VODs, which is definitely true, and not the other way around as other teams make it out to be.
Although the team has already been involved in several dramas, they are true warriors willing to overcome everything and everyone. The competition is over.
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Jawa [#72]easy for NA
NRLeakers is the best valorant team in NA. They gained notoriety and international recognition with their old roster, which featured the renowned player Y0y. At the time, they played for OpTech Gaming, an organization that is currently inactive. Their very dominant play style relied heavily on their IGL FNS, also known as "The GOAT", which devoted 100% of his huge brain to strategizing and adapting the game midround, at the expense of completely abdicating his aim.
Among all the strategies used by OpTech Gaming, the following two stand out the most: Being carried by the then best player in the world, known as "One Trick Chamber Abuser"; and ask for tech pause whenever in trouble.
Nowadays, the current NRLeakers roster has the import of the prestigious player Fartiis. This distinguished heavyweight player claims that the reason they lost some matches is due to opposing teams leaking their scrim VODs, which is definitely true, and not the other way around as other teams make it out to be.
Although the team has already been involved in several dramas, they are true warriors willing to overcome everything and everyone. The competition is over.
Dont read anything + Go NRG
guys matches arent based on teams being strong but rather how teams really prepare in the past Fnatic has had better games than NRG but this does not mean Fnatic will beat NRG 2-0 like 26-0, no. It can be really close. It all comes down to if both teams practice real hard and make it a fun game to watch. It will only be one-sided if one team hasn't prepped at all. Dont bring Fnatic performance into this. Think more about preparation and strats both teams has planned. With that being said we can assume the answer to this question could be NRG 2-1 FNC or FNC 2-1 NRG. or 0-0 if the match is postponed for some reason.
jcsthm [#8]NRG visiting lower bracket real fast
as much as i love nrg i think this might be true :(
fragileValo [#75]If you check FNC last doc, they practice 7 days a week most of the time. most do only for 6 days.
where did u get this info ?
He clearly said 6 days a week and SOMETIMES 7
Ahmed_Fadel [#102]brooooo every match is 6 am, pls dont make a major at japan again
6 am isn’t even that bad?
trembolonaRage [#69]FNC might actually lose here.
If youncheck boaster TikTok you will see he literally posted 5 videos in a span of 4 days, this is too much considering most of the teams pracc 12+ hours a day
Bro decided they'll lose looking on how often a player uploads a tiktok💀💀
Eyedd [#106]6 am isn’t even that bad?
Ikr. How tf are these mfs complaining about 6am when most of us in asia had to either stay up from 10pm to 3am or wake up 4am. 6am is normal waking time wtf
Simp4S0m [#114]Ikr. How tf are these mfs complaining about 6am when most of us in asia had to either stay up from 10pm to 3am or wake up 4am. 6am is normal waking time wtf
here, in north korea. if you are caught awake at 6 AM, you are jailed for approximately 10 years if not executed. so imagine if you are caught watching valorant at 6 AM, i assume you will be dead on spot
TomPachaya [#148]Alfa,Leo,Chronicle carrying this team everytime
Boaster is literally one of the best IGLs and you really said Derke gets carried LMAO
pewpew [#152]Not even close lol, NRG is just guessing, heavy stacking sites trying to see if they get lucky.
Boaster >>> FNS
Both aim and calling.
definitely looked that way in Map 1. Also only s0m and crashies are shooting back. everyone else is still sleeping.
Fnatics worst map is Bind, I think NRG will win there and Split will be the deciding map.
*Edit: Okay, one user just posted they have 76% wins on Bind. Didn't check that. I just had that crazy loss on Bind against FUT in my mind.
But for real... Leo is insane. That dudes mechanics and gamesense are so damn good. I know he's the only player that was rated for every VCT year (all tournaments combined) under the best players (#4 in 2021, #2 in 2022 and atm. #1 for 2023), but he's really impressive everytime again.
TheSpec7re [#153]Boaster is literally one of the best IGLs and you really said Derke gets carried LMAO
yeah that's what i exactly said. dorka getting carried everytime lol.dorka highly overated player. cringe fanboys think he is good. and booster, there are lot of igl here like boaster
TomPachaya [#161]yeah that's what i exactly said. dorka getting carried everytime lol.dorka highly overated player. cringe fanboys think he is good. and booster, there are lot of igl here like boaster
Bro's so mad he lost LOOOOL
TheSpec7re [#162]Bro's so mad he lost LOOOOL
why i'm mad? i'm so happy to NRG loose. but truth is dorka is completely overated. everytime getting lucky kills. he had good supporters that's the reason he get frags in some matches. also alfa top fragging lot of matches with kj. lol overated duelist
pewpew [#147]Don't care if FNS is good at IGLing, this guy just can't shoot at all, what a dog shit player.
8/10 IGL
2/10 Shooting
You were saying
TomPachaya [#163]why i'm mad? i'm so happy to NRG loose. but truth is dorka is completely overated. everytime getting lucky kills. he had good supporters that's the reason he get frags in some matches. also alfa top fragging lot of matches with kj. lol overated duelist
Bro's so mad he lost LOOOOL
TomPachaya [#167]haha cringe fanboys think dorka is good lol
Tell me you lost money betting on NRG, without telling me you lost money betting on NRG.
pewpew [#152]Not even close lol, NRG is just guessing, heavy stacking sites trying to see if they get lucky.
Boaster >>> FNS
Both aim and calling.
NRG are just desperate at this point, trying anything and hoping it works.
YaoMung [#171]Tell me you lost money betting on NRG, without telling me you lost money betting on NRG.
dude. i'm NA (no aim) hater. why i bet to NRG? lol. i just want to speak the truth
TrialRunnr [#12]NRG GONNA EXPOSE THESE FRAUDS LFG
The only frauds that were exposed are FNS, VICTOR,CRASHIES AND ARDIS AHAHAHAH, NRG NOOBS GOT WHAT THEY DESERVED
PoonRaccoon [#42]boaster is shitting his pants rn lil bro
Boaster clears that Iron FNS, boaster is tiers above FNS in IGLing, Cry me a river now
pewpew [#190]Crashies: "I wanna play against Fnatic."
Man...shut the fuck up and pack your stuff up. Tier 2 waiting for you.
Relax, bro. crashies is a great player and also a nice dude.
pixh [#53]Sucks that fnatic is going out this fast
Sike, NRG =Noob Raging Gaming gonna be out real soon now
pewpew [#190]Crashies: "I wanna play against Fnatic."
Man...shut the fuck up and pack your stuff up. Tier 2 waiting for you.
Now all the NA guys are telling us to relax and calm down and it's just a game. When they were winning, they were talking all the shxt. Karma is a real bxtch
trembolonaRage [#69]FNC might actually lose here.
If youncheck boaster TikTok you will see he literally posted 5 videos in a span of 4 days, this is too much considering most of the teams pracc 12+ hours a day
bruhh XD. top ten analytics from tiktok account.
hiruae [#155]unironically plats have better aim than NRG. Every round they won was either down to ults or going 3-4 man walks and getting advantage.
Fnatic without alfa doesn't have aim too.
dapada [#200]best NA team huh?
Wait, these NA fanboys will dxkride EG now. Until they get destroyed by TL. Then they will vanish just like their teams did. It's the same story always
DarkSoul101 [#210]Wait, these NA fanboys will dxkride EG now. Until they get destroyed by TL. Then they will vanish just like their teams did. It's the same story always
Are you a pre birth toxic community hater or what ?
Never have I seen anything fruitful coming out of you ...or not even normal.
We get it you are a slut born and your parents were violent throughout but you can still change ROFL
Grow up
DarkSoul101 [#204]Now all the NA guys are telling us to relax and calm down and it's just a game. When they were winning, they were talking all the shxt. Karma is a real bxtch
bro are you okay?
alpha1red [#211]Can we have OpTic roster back now?
what'd you mean?.. S0m have been one of the consistent one, he is irreplaceable as crashies
verybestplayerworld [#115]FNC will be finessed by the goat himself 26-0 incoming, safest bet I've ever done on NRG
condolence for ur bet. navi fans aint having a great year i see.
TomPachaya [#161]yeah that's what i exactly said. dorka getting carried everytime lol.dorka highly overated player. cringe fanboys think he is good. and booster, there are lot of igl here like boaster
Dude who you think is doing all these strategies in the Fnatic team and calling it when to apply them? Obviously Boaster, yes with the help of the coach and rest of the team. You see today they completely outplayed NRG with utility, not only aim.
Abtasam [#231]Dude who you think is doing all these strategies in the Fnatic team and calling it when to apply them? Obviously Boaster, yes with the help of the coach and rest of the team. You see today they completely outplayed NRG with utility, not only aim.
Yeah Fnatic without alfa dosen't have aim. they are utility abusers like NRG. but yeasterday they did perfect work. and without alfa,leo,chronicle fnatic can't success. leo,chroncle did great job with utility alfa did great job with aim. that's why they are carrying this team