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The Sinatraa situation

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#1
youngdagger

Am I the only one thinking it's out of place for Riot to be conducting an 'investigation' and to give him a suspension?

If any criminal allegations are to be made, it should only be handled by the police. If no criminal charges are made, then it should be handled privately.

It would be another issue if the situation was with someone involved with Riot, but it's not. The accuser has nothing to do with Valorant. So why are Riot getting involved?

It makes sense business wise, anything touching sexual misbehavior is touchy. But I don't think it's fair.

People use the word rpe like all rpe cases are made equal. This is more someone being toxic in a relationship and not knowing how to respect boundaries. Not ok at all, but not the same as what Bill Cosby did or anything like that.

I can tell you right now, no criminal charges will come from this. Worst case scenario a restraining order is put in place (which is obviously not needed).

What do you think?

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Well Riot had to come out with some PR move and this was it imo. Pretty sure this "investigation"(if it can even be called as such lol) is just for image and nothing more. You know, same sort of shit when Bethesda puts pride colors on all of its twitter accounts and avatars, except for Saudi Arabian, Russian and Turkish accounts

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this is a braindead take no offense but you sound like your 14 and trying to sound intellectual af. In 90% of high profile jobs if you had any alligation of this nature with this much influence he would be lucky to even come back after 6 months tbh, ppl go on leave when investigations are happening for much less in much less high profile jobs. Plus imagine a star player of any league in the world esports or otherwise had cases like this, there would be some sort of investigation happening both by the governing body and legally, you dont want to have your poster boy continue to be so if there is even the potential this is true. also what the person above me said

#13
array
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Yeah... I suggest googling "kobe bryant rape alegations" before you open your mouth

Btw "this is a braindead take no offense". Nice of you to note that he should take no offense for calling it a braindead take

#16
fontea
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Yeh, but sinatra isn't Kobe or Ronaldo hes a fucking esports player you see the difference

#17
fontea
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Oh they should take offense for the take they shouldn't take offense for them being 14

#21
Supr3meGucci
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Yeh, but sinatra isn't Kobe or Ronaldo hes a fucking esports player you see the difference

#5
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It’s all PR man.

Innocent until proven guilty (unfortunately) doesn’t apply when it comes to anything related to sexual assault. At least not in the court of public opinion... Many innocent lives have been ruined by bogus sexual assault allegations. Unfortunately, it’s such a hot topic nobody wants to touch you with a ten foot pole once it’s started. Social justice warriors will be all over you trying to destroy you before any real verdict is made.

And don’t get me wrong, if he’s guilty, he deserves to be punished to the fullest extent of the law. But at the moment, the investigation conducted by the police (or riot for that matter) has lead to virtually nothing in terms of solid proof aside from what appears to be a he-said-she-said. Unfortunately, no matter the outcome, it looks as though even if he’s innocent his accuser may have already done the damage she was aiming to do. He’s got a Scarlet letter on his chest and his competitive career may forever be tainted. Only time will tell.

But to answer your question, yeah riot seems to have basically used whatever reach of an excuse they could find to ban him with what seems to be virtually no proof.

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Roguearz
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Its really just stupid cause riot is not the government. They got no reason really to suspend him even if he isn't guilty.

#7
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they didnt suspend him for that, they suspended him for not cooperating with their investigation,

#10
H3LiX
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Right. Which is a reach... what right does riot have to try and go above an ongoing legal investigation... I’m sure his lawyers probably advised him not to give riot anything because the legal matter is more serious.

It’s just my opinion, but I personally think riot stuck whatever excuse they could to it and banned him solely to save face/PR.

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idk, in the end, riot handed over the investigation to police

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H3LiX
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Riot handed over their investigation, which found nothing, of note to the police... but still dished out a 6month ban with zero proof of anything before doing so.

#22
kusoboshi
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well they banned him not because of whether he has proof or not, they banned him because he didn't comply to the investigation

#8
kindereggmodel
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i understand pr, but whta do the letters mean

#9
H3LiX
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Are you asking what “PR” stands for?

It’s public relations. Basically trying to control how the world sees you as a corporation/entity lol

#12
kindereggmodel
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Ye i knew what it means due to the context, i just didnt know what the letters standed for. I knew it was about how the public perceives you as an org

#15
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I think it got turned over to police

#18
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I don't think there was any criminal charges made. It was a confession from his ex about their toxic past

#19
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To be fully honest Riot is just trying to do their part and look good in front of the screen, as this matter is already being investigated by the police I doubt Riot put out som P.I.'s to find out more about the topic. Probably just a "Since this player that competes in our game is being investigated for sexual assault allegations we're gonna ban him until proven wrong."

Although it seems stupid because it takes away the "innocent until proven guilty" imo this is just a bureaucratic move by a company that needs to protect its back and make sure nothing backfires on them.

I'm pretty sure when this is all over, if he's proven innocent either because of lack of proof or because he's really innocent Riot will probably lift the ban on him and allow him to play.

But as I said, gotta look good to the public.

#20
Sunot
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We've seen it time and time again with HenryG and RedEYE how in the court of public(twitter) people's life get destroyed even though they are innocent.

Sinatraa is innocent until it is proven otherwise. Feelsbad for him man :(

#23
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it’s so dumber ;-(

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