What's your unpopular competitive Valorant opinion? Mine's that Fracture is my favorite map to watch
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south_eastindian [#3]just add mid season transfer
there was a mid season transfer. it was after lock/in.
pkSqueegee [#5]there was a mid season transfer. it was after lock/in.
lockin is not even real turney lil bro
pkSqueegee [#5]there was a mid season transfer. it was after lock/in.
that was a preseason tourney, just to reveal all orgs and teams
Yay is a fraud.
Boosted stats from broken chamber agent.
A lot of people don't realize that a lot of duelist players are carried by Jett and Chamber.
It's the agent that makes them look good
Flexibility is more important than being a chamber or Jett abuser.
That's why Cloud 9 did better without Yay.
They solved their role issues when Yay can only play fucking Sage, Chamber and Jett.
The true GOAT duelist is Derke.
He is not a one trick duelist.
Dwighty [#8]Yay is a fraud.
Boosted stats from broken chamber agent.
A lot of people don't realize that a lot of duelist players are carried by Jett and Chamber.
It's the agent that makes them look good
Flexibility is more important than being a chamber or Jett abuser.
That's why Cloud 9 did better without Yay.
They solved their role issues when Yay can only play fucking Sage, Chamber and Jett.
The true GOAT duelist is Derke.
He is not a one trick duelist.
Different meta =/= fraud. I think the valorant community should start looking at the "best in the world" in terms of metas. Yay was the best in chamber meta, now he's not.
Neonfreak [#9]Different meta =/= fraud. I think the valorant community should start looking at the "best in the world" in terms of metas. Yay was the best in chamber meta, now he's not.
Yay was the best in chamber meta, now he's not.
Well we can't tell that bc the mf got kicked out.
He was also the only one doing well against DRX
GooberBoy [#13]he performs awfully against any good team go look at it yourself
this is his recent performances against "good team" and look at his overall stats https://www.vlr.gg/167391/loud-vs-drx-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-sf
plus nobody overrated him
annoybrocc02 [#17]
Navi has the best attack side ascent itw (probably not a hot take but oh well)
Leviatan is overrated (in general)
Leviatan has a very outdated ascent. Navi and bbl clear.
GooberBoy [#10]RB is mega overrated because he plays a ton of agents
used to say this before but recently he's picked up and started to not choke and is now clutching alot as well.
I still think he has the most potential out of anyone on DRX bc he can aim so good when not underpressure and has insane peaks (he has the best flick of all time vs optic).
Hopefully RB can get his confidence again bc RB on Jett used to hit insane shots back in 2020/2021.
Repetition [#16]flair checked
i mean he did say he is a rb hater no need to use overrated as an excuse lol
pitchfork [#15]this is his recent performances against "good team" and look at his overall stats https://www.vlr.gg/167391/loud-vs-drx-champions-tour-2023-lock-in-s-o-paulo-sf
plus nobody overrated him
I have been downvoted heavily for presenting this in the past and people still call him a top 2 flex ITW
pitchfork [#20]i mean he did say he is a rb hater no need to use overrated as an excuse lol
I mean ya he's over loved for being mediocre
GooberBoy [#23]I have been downvoted heavily for presenting this in the past and people still call him a top 2 flex ITW
Top 3 flex imo:
- Victor
- Zyppan
- Chronicle
PoonRaccoon [#33]Top 3 flex imo:
- Victor
- Zyppan
- Chronicle
Replace zyppan w zekken and you got yourself a deal
Faraday [#25]
unpopular
adjectivenot liked or popular.
"unpopular measures"
wait, most people think Franchising is dog?
SAMPV6 [#44]wait, most people think Franchising is dog?
People were upset at it before franchsing even started
Everyone knows franchising is better for players and orgs but worse for viewers
Faraday [#45]People were upset at it before franchsing even started
Everyone knows franchising is better for players and orgs but worse for viewers
Is it though? As a viewer I love seeing top tier competition on a weekly basis. There are downsides sure, and I bet a bunch of them will get fixed with time/experience
Neonfreak [#38]Team Liquid aren't qualifying to Tokyo ngl
other than FNC and NaVi, which 2 teams are qualifying over them
conman [#47]Is it though? As a viewer I love seeing top tier competition on a weekly basis. There are downsides sure, and I bet a bunch of them will get fixed with time/experience
W viewer man
Neonfreak [#38]Team Liquid aren't qualifying to Tokyo ngl
EMEA got 4 slots, TL for sure top 4 contender
zardinez [#42]Replace zyppan w zekken and you got yourself a deal
zyppan plays more agents than him and is better than him all of them. Zekken is top 5 though.
vipermommydomme [#46]Unpopular opinion: ShahZaM is good enough for franchising and SEN's bad year can't be blamed on him
SEN’s bad year came from
- The org getting no coach for the damn team
- Team struggled with mental without a good coach
- Having too play with coach in the team
- Having 2 weeks of practice before the lcq with the new team(org problem) and a bunch of them got sick during the 1 week break so they could not scrim for a week before the 100t game
conman [#47]Is it though? As a viewer I love seeing top tier competition on a weekly basis. There are downsides sure, and I bet a bunch of them will get fixed with time/experience
you can do that without franchising
Faraday [#59]you can do that without franchising
Cant watch mid games like FaZe vs XBOT if you can have LOUD vs NRG without it even being international LAN
GooberBoy [#10]RB is mega overrated because he plays a ton of agents
Guy is silver and instalocks duelist lmao , his flexibility is so damn good he plays pretty much all the roles and fills for the team that's a Big W
PoonRaccoon [#33]Top 3 flex imo:
- Victor
- Zyppan
- Chronicle
Blud put Victor ahead of Zyppan and Chronicle 💀💀
Dwighty [#8]Yay is a fraud.
Boosted stats from broken chamber agent.
A lot of people don't realize that a lot of duelist players are carried by Jett and Chamber.
It's the agent that makes them look good
Flexibility is more important than being a chamber or Jett abuser.
That's why Cloud 9 did better without Yay.
They solved their role issues when Yay can only play fucking Sage, Chamber and Jett.
The true GOAT duelist is Derke.
He is not a one trick duelist.
Ahh this dwighty guy is suchh a bitcchh, always bitching in vlr, like do you even have a life outside of your basement? god damn...
conman [#47]Is it though? As a viewer I love seeing top tier competition on a weekly basis. There are downsides sure, and I bet a bunch of them will get fixed with time/experience
Riot neutered NA valorant when they broke up Optic
Nisham [#19]used to say this before but recently he's picked up and started to not choke and is now clutching alot as well.
I still think he has the most potential out of anyone on DRX bc he can aim so good when not underpressure and has insane peaks (he has the best flick of all time vs optic).
Hopefully RB can get his confidence again bc RB on Jett used to hit insane shots back in 2020/2021.
My problem with him has never been in groups/quals or in mid tier matches. I'm not saying he's bad when playing teams like Talon or Zeta or BBL, my problem is that EVERY tournament they've ever played in they go far and plateau, and literally every time he looks bad. He doesn't make egregious game losing mistakes, but every single final match or second to last match DRX has played since 2021 at LAN he has been their worst performer. The problem is that he plays well and flexes a lot in APAC and in the early rounds so he has job security, but realistically their ceiling is lowered with him on the team.
Squeezhy [#69]br deserved 4 slots and latam only 1
So Americas should be...
5 NA
4 BR
1 LATAM
5 NA kekw
Dwighty [#8]Yay is a fraud.
Boosted stats from broken chamber agent.
A lot of people don't realize that a lot of duelist players are carried by Jett and Chamber.
It's the agent that makes them look good
Flexibility is more important than being a chamber or Jett abuser.
That's why Cloud 9 did better without Yay.
They solved their role issues when Yay can only play fucking Sage, Chamber and Jett.
The true GOAT duelist is Derke.
He is not a one trick duelist.
Saying c9 did better without yay is a crime. Their only loss was against drx and it is pretty acceptable. And what did you see derke play good other than jett and chamber ? He is not a menace on raze bro
WinterZ [#49]other than FNC and NaVi, which 2 teams are qualifying over them
Fut and giants/vitality
Sentry1 [#71]5 NA kekw
better than watching KRU at least u people can make fun when BR shits on another NA team, but no one cares about this fraud org
conman [#47]Is it though? As a viewer I love seeing top tier competition on a weekly basis. There are downsides sure, and I bet a bunch of them will get fixed with time/experience
same
Nachtel [#65]Riot neutered NA valorant when they broke up Optic
NRG gonna save that Riot money and get yay when his DSG contract is up trust
GooberBoy [#67]My problem with him has never been in groups/quals or in mid tier matches. I'm not saying he's bad when playing teams like Talon or Zeta or BBL, my problem is that EVERY tournament they've ever played in they go far and plateau, and literally every time he looks bad. He doesn't make egregious game losing mistakes, but every single final match or second to last match DRX has played since 2021 at LAN he has been their worst performer. The problem is that he plays well and flexes a lot in APAC and in the early rounds so he has job security, but realistically their ceiling is lowered with him on the team.
He wasn't the worst in lockin, that was Zest. RB looks like he's getting better at handling pressure. Plus, DRX is the youngest team besides LEV, ofc they will choke
- s0m is the best player on NRG, not crashies
- Trent is the second best initiator in NA after crashies
- NiSMO could replace any NA flex except Victor
- Sayaplayer on a good team like Gen G or DRX would be in at least the same conversation as players like leaf or dgzin
- Mastery over many agents like Shao or Chronicle makes one a better player than one-tricking and farming on duelist like aspas/Derke
BayArea [#82]
- s0m is the best player on NRG, not crashies
- Trent is the second best initiator in NA after crashies
- NiSMO could replace any NA flex except Victor
- Sayaplayer on a good team like Gen G or DRX would be in at least the same conversation as players like leaf or dgzin
- Mastery over many agents like Shao or Chronicle makes one a better player than one-tricking and farming on duelist like aspas/Derke
I agree that mastery over many agents is a skill that increases a player's value but that doesn't mean they are automatically better than duelist players (and Derke and Aspas aren't one tricks they play Jett and Raze)
Nisham [#81]He wasn't the worst in lockin, that was Zest. RB looks like he's getting better at handling pressure. Plus, DRX is the youngest team besides LEV, ofc they will choke
yeah but he was definitely mad choking on ascent against loud but ig that could be said for everyone too besides mako
thatpower [#84]yeah but he was definitely mad choking on ascent against loud but ig that could be said for everyone too besides mako
u know everyone beside mako underperforming on ascent but ppl only blamed rb cuz he whiffed on last round
pitchfork [#85]u know everyone beside mako underperforming on ascent but ppl only blamed rb cuz he whiffed on last round
you right
Sprouts [#39]TenZ indirectly ruined NA Valorant by starting the trend of massive buyouts that aren't affordable for orgs in the long run and keeping players around after bad performances so long as they have clout
not sure its tenz fault that c9 put him in contract jail
Nisham [#81]He wasn't the worst in lockin, that was Zest. RB looks like he's getting better at handling pressure. Plus, DRX is the youngest team besides LEV, ofc they will choke
Look at his games versus Optic and FPX in champs, or at Copenhagen, or versus Zeta and Optic in Reykjavik. In all of DRX's final two games since the start of 2022 he's averaging a .83 rating with 177 ACS while going -83(!!!) in 8 games. Zest isn't that bad, no one is that bad. I don't give a fuck if ur playing a bunch of roles, those numbers are nearly identical to current form tenz, brave and takej. If you were told one of ur 5 players were gonna play on that level when facing high level competition, would you keep him around? If you want something more digestible, why don't we look at these stats. Out of the 50 players with the most games played against elite competition, he ranks 46th in rating, 38th in ACS, 49th in KAST!!!, 44 in KD, a negative fk/fd, and 36th in assists grouped only with players that one trick duelists and 3 hard anchor sentinel players. I just don't get how some players get knives thrown at them for having one bad performance but RB gets away with doing it every tournament he plays in when it matters most. Obviously DRX's only problem isn't him but MaKo, Buzz, Stax, and Zest have never been this consistently bad.
DarkraH [#74]i think s0m is crazy good, but marved is absurbly superb
s0m clears marved on csgo and so will he on valorant
mosthatedplayersRise [#80]Sentinels should have added Sinatraa to the main roster during the whole Kanpeki/Zellsis/Rawkus arc
Also that if the allegations had never happened, Sinatraa would 100% be in franchising.
tenz would be retired or cc for c9
Chet and FNS have become so caught up on sticking to an anti Jett meta after their success in creating chamber meta last season that they have genuinely lost touch of what their players are comfortable on don’t realize that more comfortable players on a worse comp can much outperform uncomfortable players on a good comp
emirerays [#76]Fut and giants/vitality
https://www.vlr.gg/173220/team-liquid-vs-fut-esports-champions-tour-2023-emea-league-w1
it comes down to VIT vs TL imo and I think Liquid are capable of taking that series
cohnr [#54]we are entering a meta that will be even more brain numbing to watch than chamber meta or viper/astra meta
whats the name of this meta? killjoy meta? help a newbie out brotha 🙏
Yessirskiiii [#62]Blud put Victor ahead of Zyppan and Chronicle 💀💀
Victor has proven he is the best flex. Bro has performed well in duelist, initiator, sentinel, controller roles. The MOST flexible player in the world
D4nni [#94]whats the name of this meta? killjoy meta? help a newbie out brotha 🙏
harbour/viper meta makes it hell for viewers and observers because everyone is just getting spammed through smokes
BayArea [#82]
- s0m is the best player on NRG, not crashies
- Trent is the second best initiator in NA after crashies
- NiSMO could replace any NA flex except Victor
- Sayaplayer on a good team like Gen G or DRX would be in at least the same conversation as players like leaf or dgzin
- Mastery over many agents like Shao or Chronicle makes one a better player than one-tricking and farming on duelist like aspas/Derke
i agree with everything but I think vic and crashies are the two most valuable players on nrg
cohnr [#96]harbour/viper meta makes it hell for viewers and observers because everyone is just getting spammed through smokes
viper needs a rework she is replacing sentinels on some maps, they need to find a way to balance her attack and defense sides.
BayArea [#82]
- s0m is the best player on NRG, not crashies
- Trent is the second best initiator in NA after crashies
- NiSMO could replace any NA flex except Victor
- Sayaplayer on a good team like Gen G or DRX would be in at least the same conversation as players like leaf or dgzin
- Mastery over many agents like Shao or Chronicle makes one a better player than one-tricking and farming on duelist like aspas/Derke
No Sayagoat would be in the same Convo as Aspas and derke
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