The game seems to have updated its graphics from 2011 to 2015-16 graphics, the new smoke mechanic is good and its bright and contrasty af. What's the point of calling it Counter Strike 2 like they're changing a lot of things to make the game different than CSGO?
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Mortadelo [#2]Bro they changed the graphics and the smoke, if that was a different game every season we would have another Valorant with the map and agent release
CS:GO massive update with some new version number instead of CS2? There's nothing to validate the 2 in the name.
FDWC- [#4]why indian hate CS so much LMAO?
do they get PTSD with the forsaken accident or something?
What part is hate in this? Its literally a question about why they named it that way? What you can't understand the difference between hate and question now that you hate every single second of your life?
titanwithpp [#3]CS:GO massive update with some new version number instead of CS2? There's nothing to validate the 2 in the name.
Dude if you don’t tell anyone the changes any person seeing it from the outside without too much knowledge doesn’t even realize there’s a single change other than it looking a bit brighter
Edit: Never mind I missinderstood you thought you meant the opposite lol. I agree xD
FDWC- [#4]why indian hate CS so much LMAO?
do they get PTSD with the forsaken accident or something?
Literally so many threads and so many other people have pointed this out but ofcourse you indos with an Indian hate boner start barking like the dogs you are. Mf is obsessed 🤣
FDWC- [#4]why indian hate CS so much LMAO?
do they get PTSD with the forsaken accident or something?
why are you getting happy? you dont play any of these games? neither valorant nor cs2 or csgo?
Mortadelo [#2]Bro they changed the graphics and the smoke, if that was a different game every season we would have another Valorant with the map and agent release
We'd have Valorant 5 at this point
First of all it’s a beta.
Second of all it’s a rebrand, so they called cs2 just because it’s csgo ported to source 2 engine.
And finally, you need to understand that the game is the same but everything got remade with better quality, and it’s good for the game health’s in long term.
Don’t you remember valorant in beta? how clunky it was? It changed a lot right? Cs will be the same, expect good improvements
FDWC- [#4]why indian hate CS so much LMAO?
do they get PTSD with the forsaken accident or something?
why indonesian obsessed with Indian so much LMAO?
HLTV_BIGGEST_FAN [#10]First of all it’s a beta.
Second of all it’s a rebrand, so they called cs2 just because it’s csgo ported to source 2 engine.
And finally, you need to understand that the game is the same but everything got remade with better quality, and it’s good for the game health’s in long term.Don’t you remember valorant in beta? how clunky it was? It changed a lot right? Cs will be the same, expect good improvements
Honestly better rebrand would be just calling it counter strike ngl. I feel like it's so much cleaner.
zeldrols [#13]Honestly better rebrand would be just calling it counter strike ngl. I feel like it's so much cleaner.
tell me you’re a dumbass without telling me you’re a dumbass
sheppy_ [#14]tell me you’re a dumbass without telling me you’re a dumbass
Lol u literally can't justify the 2 ... it's literally like ow2 rebrand cringe
zeldrols [#15]Lol u literally can't justify the 2 ... it's literally like ow2 rebrand cringe
cs source > source engine
cs2 > source 2
sleeek [#16]cs source > source engine
cs2 > source 2
So when make source 3 they call It counter strike 3 ? New game with improve graphics lol . Literally overwatch 2 rebrand with less overall features.
Mortadelo [#2]Bro they changed the graphics and the smoke, if that was a different game every season we would have another Valorant with the map and agent release
Agreed. Valorant gets a new engine, map rehauls, new hud, new sound system every season
zeldrols [#17]So when make source 3 they call It counter strike 3 ? New game with improve graphics lol . Literally overwatch 2 rebrand with less overall features.
So when make source 3 they call It counter strike 3 ?
sure, whats wrong with it? i think if they make a new cs game while still using the same engine they would just name it something random like csgo, i mean what tf do they mean by "global offensive"
New game with improve graphics lol
again, whats wrong with this? csgo is 10 years old, graphics improvement is good. what are you even expecting them to change? make 3 bombsite maps?
zeldrols [#15]Lol u literally can't justify the 2 ... it's literally like ow2 rebrand cringe
the first official Counter Strike game was branded and named as “Counter Strike”. Why would they re-brand to a name that they gave to the first iteration of the whole game
fiasco [#18]Agreed. Valorant gets a new engine, map rehauls, new hud, new sound system every season
Valorant don't need a new engine
hanafuuji [#25]I feel like the new game engine justifies for it to be called a different game, also it's basically the same game with new engine anyway, you still keep your inventory and achievements from CS:GO
Engine update is not changing anything in the game. The graphics are now as comparable to 2015-16 and the only new thing is smoke pathway. Its still the same game. Counter Strike 2 would make sense if they changed character models and guns and added new never seen before maps and also more ways to play the game itself, for example breakable environment.
As of now its nothing but a big update.
titanwithpp [#26]Engine update is not changing anything in the game. The graphics are now as comparable to 2015-16 and the only new thing is smoke pathway. Its still the same game. Counter Strike 2 would make sense if they changed character models and guns and added new never seen before maps and also more ways to play the game itself, for example breakable environment.
As of now its nothing but a big update.
tbf most of the CS:GO community are hardcore players that really despise changes made to their game, I feel like valve hit the right spot with changing some stuff that would make it exciting and not changing too much that would make old players don't wanna play CS2, because valve said that this is gonna be the replacement for CS:GO, so CS:GO won't be a thing after CS2 has released.
also valve says that it's a different game when in reality it's basically the same game anyway, you can upgrade your CS:GO to CS2 for free and you still keep all of your inventories and achievements from CS:GO, it doesn't really matter what valve called their "new" game, it's basically the same shit with new engine and new mechanics.
hanafuuji [#27]tbf most of the CS:GO community are hardcore players that really despise changes made to their game, I feel like valve hit the right spot with changing some stuff that would make it exciting and not changing too much that would make old players don't wanna play CS2, because valve said that this is gonna be the replacement for CS:GO, so CS:GO won't be a thing after CS2 has released.
also valve says that it's a different game when in reality it's basically the same game anyway, you can upgrade your CS:GO to CS2 for free and you still keep all of your inventories and achievements from CS:GO, it doesn't really matter what valve called their "new" game, it's basically the same shit with new engine and new mechanics.
I mean keeping a lower engine version of the game when a new one is out is dumb so yeah the way they're saying its a new game is not true because its all the same except smokes. Think of it as valo getting a new agent that's it.
titanwithpp [#28]I mean keeping a lower engine version of the game when a new one is out is dumb so yeah the way they're saying its a new game is not true because its all the same except smokes. Think of it as valo getting a new agent that's it.
truest comment , they got a "new agent" and called it a new game lmao :D
if valorant went 2, 3 , 4 everytime unreal engine gets updated , i think we would be on 5 or 6
FDWC- [#4]why indian hate CS so much LMAO?
do they get PTSD with the forsaken accident or something?
CS > Valorant
titanwithpp [#3]CS:GO massive update with some new version number instead of CS2? There's nothing to validate the 2 in the name.
The whole point of the 2 was to show that it is running on the source 2 engine
zeldrols [#17]So when make source 3 they call It counter strike 3 ? New game with improve graphics lol . Literally overwatch 2 rebrand with less overall features.
It's not the same thing as overwatch 2 rebrand.
Yeah both rebranded to "2", but the approach is VERY different. Counter-strike will still be the same game, but will have a super optimized and modern code, and its easier to bring more updates!
People are expecting a different game, but they need to understand what a engine port means
Trust me, it's a great long-term update
fiasco [#18]Agreed. Valorant gets a new engine, map rehauls, new hud, new sound system every season
Valorant gets new maps every 3 seasons, map changes, new agent every season(can have just as much impact as the smoke thing). Balance changes that change the entire meta. Skins every month.
CS gets all those things once a year and many of them not even
A Valorant season change brings way more content than CS2. Only true advantage is the better engine and servers, which we already have. And that’s not something that engages the players long term
zeldrols [#13]Honestly better rebrand would be just calling it counter strike ngl. I feel like it's so much cleaner.
Counter Strike exists already
Mortadelo [#33]Valorant gets new maps every 3 seasons, map changes, new agent every season(can have just as much impact as the smoke thing). Balance changes that change the entire meta. Skins every month.
CS gets all those things once a year and many of them not even
A Valorant season change brings way more content than CS2. Only true advantage is the better engine and servers, which we already have. And that’s not something that engages the players long term
"CS gets all those things once a year and many of them not even"
Thats because many valve employees didn't want to work with Source 1.
Now that cs2 exists, the updates will for sure come more often
(if you don't know, valve employees are free to work on what they want)
Some don't seem to understand that souce 2 update was never supposed to be a completely new game. Its CSGO moved to new engine and most have known that since the rumors started years ago. What we got was more than I expected. Also people mention OW2 all the time, but its the exact same thing. OW2 was not supposed to be a new game, it was an update to OW1. Its just a rebrand to make it more marketable. Also almost no one wanted them to change core CSGO mechanics and they didn't. Same with maps that are some of the most iconic and well received in FPS gaming history. Also switch to Source 2 opens up a lot of new possibilities in the future. Let it be custom maps that are already cool in CSGO to new modes like when they added BR mode in Danger Zone. Also I don't get these engine comparisons when to my understand Source 2(2015) is Valve's newest and Source 1 got released in 2004. Like that is a massive difference.
HLTV_BIGGEST_FAN [#35]"CS gets all those things once a year and many of them not even"
Thats because many valve employees didn't want to work with Source 1.
Now that cs2 exists, the updates will for sure come more often
(if you don't know, valve employees are free to work on what they want)
How does that make it any better? Wtf is that even supposed to mean? You do not tell your employees to work on something if they don’t feel like doing it????? Is that supposed to be a good thing?
Mortadelo [#37]How does that make it any better? Wtf is that even supposed to mean? You do not tell your employees to work on something if they don’t feel like doing it????? Is that supposed to be a good thing?
No, because valve employees are free to work in the game they want. If they want to work on dota and then if they want to work on cs they can.
It's not a good thing for games in source 1, like TF2 and CSGO (csgo was getting some because is the main game tho)
But for the games that work in source 2, it's good, i guess.
HLTV_BIGGEST_FAN [#39]No, because valve employees are free to work in the game they want. If they want to work on dota and then if they want to work on cs they can.
It's not a good thing for games in source 1, like TF2 and CSGO (csgo was getting some because is the main game tho)
But for the games that work in source 2, it's good, i guess.
Why would it be good tho? You're basically telling me they do not wanna hire 2 different teams because they do not care enough, like bro get more people tf you mean "if they don't feel like it nobody is gonna work on the game". Don't you see there is something wrong there? Sure they wanna work on it now but what tells you they still will next year?
zeldrols [#15]Lol u literally can't justify the 2 ... it's literally like ow2 rebrand cringe
Counter strike is the name of the original game so no they cant just call it counter strike. Look at CS1.6 then look at CS2 and tell me the 2 is not justified XD
Mortadelo [#40]Why would it be good tho? You're basically telling me they do not wanna hire 2 different teams because they do not care enough, like bro get more people tf you mean "if they don't feel like it nobody is gonna work on the game". Don't you see there is something wrong there? Sure they wanna work on it now but what tells you they still will next year?
Valve policies, idk.
TheHowling02 [#41]they r calling it cs2 cos its using source 2... Its not that complicated to understand. Also your acting like valorant has next gen graphics or something lmao
It is not CS2 though, an engine update does not mean a game up, its not that complicated to understand. And nowhere did I mention valorant has next gen graphics. All I said was they updated it to 2015-16 graphics. Idk how you just dream of extra info and post it.
titanwithpp [#44]It is not CS2 though, an engine update does not mean a game up, its not that complicated to understand. And nowhere did I mention valorant has next gen graphics. All I said was they updated it to 2015-16 graphics. Idk how you just dream of extra info and post it.
OK do you know what CS1 is? If so, dont you think its understanble to name this product CS2 as its a massive leap from CS1 PLUS the naming makes sense as it is inline with the engine change. I took "updated its graphics from 2011 to 2015-16 graphics" as a negative and used valorant as an example to why a tactical fps shouldnt have next gen graphics. Tact fps games need to run well on avrage hardware and not be too visualy complicated. Im sorry if you meant "updated its graphics from 2011 to 2015-16 graphics" as a positive but if you didnt my point still stands. Finally have you ever played 1.6, source or GO? Valve hit the jackpot with the first game (arguably even with the half life mod) so they have never had any reason for massive changes. I dont understand what the fuck you where expecting? Honestly they overtook our expectations as we just though it would be a port to source 2 but instead we are getting new smokes, remakes of classic maps and better servers with new sub-tick tech. Did you expect CS2 to be an open world RPG or something?
TheHowling02 [#45]OK do you know what CS1 is? If so, dont you think its understanble to name this product CS2 as its a massive leap from CS1 PLUS the naming makes sense as it is inline with the engine change. I took "updated its graphics from 2011 to 2015-16 graphics" as a negative and used valorant as an example to why a tactical fps shouldnt have next gen graphics. Tact fps games need to run well on avrage hardware and not be too visualy complicated. Im sorry if you meant "updated its graphics from 2011 to 2015-16 graphics" as a positive but if you didnt my point still stands. Finally have you ever played 1.6, source or GO? Valve hit the jackpot with the first game (arguably even with the half life mod) so they have never had any reason for massive changes. I dont understand what the fuck you where expecting? Honestly they overtook our expectations as we just though it would be a port to source 2 but instead we are getting new smokes, remakes of classic maps and better servers with new sub-tick tech. Did you expect CS2 to be an open world RPG or something?
ain't reading allat + what is blud whaffling about?
titanwithpp [#46]ain't reading allat + what is blud whaffling about?
HAHAHA sorry I forgot most vlr users still struggle with reading. lmk when you get out of elementary school
TheHowling02 [#47]HAHAHA sorry I forgot most vlr users still struggle with reading. lmk when you get out of elementary school
Nah just didn't wanna waste time reading a paragraph that tries to justify an engine update as a new game
titanwithpp [#48]Nah just didn't wanna waste time reading a paragraph that tries to justify an engine update as a new game
lil bro no one is saying its a new game
titanwithpp [#48]Nah just didn't wanna waste time reading a paragraph that tries to justify an engine update as a new game
Then dont post a thread about CS2 my daft child...
TheHowling02 [#50]Then dont post a thread about CS2 my daft child...
Oh I can post whatever I want, I don't remember asking you to comment under a thread I made defending CS like a frog
I_SELL_ORGANS [#52]wdym valorant has 2012 graphics
Yeah and nobody said anything about valorant's graphics in any part of the thread
source 2 -> cs 2
Aside from graphical improvements, every single aspect of the games physics has changed. that mean every singe physical interaction in the game is different, from grenade trajectory to geometry Collison, player movement, weapon balancing and more. The fact that the game seems so similar at a glance is actually a testament to the work put into making it look and feel so familiar. Even over the course of one afternoon, players are already confirming many of the changes to gameplay that weren't showcased in those videos from Valve.
This is most advanced CounterStrike has ever been under the hood, and it warrants a proper sequel IMO.
Agree with it or not, it would be disingenuous to tie this game to the cs:go title, because it is not that game. Just like source is not cs:go, even though they are both built on the same source engine. This is an even bigger departure from that of source to cs:go
titanwithpp [#51]Oh I can post whatever I want, I don't remember asking you to comment under a thread I made defending CS like a frog
Hey man your alowed to be a dumb cunt, doesnt mean im not going to call you out for it.
TheHowling02 [#55]Hey man your alowed to be a dumb cunt, doesnt mean im not going to call you out for it.
Cry louder
titanwithpp [#53]Yeah and nobody said anything about valorant's graphics in any part of the thread
i said something about it
zeldrols [#17]So when make source 3 they call It counter strike 3 ? New game with improve graphics lol . Literally overwatch 2 rebrand with less overall features.
the first official Counter Strike game was branded and named as “Counter Strike”. Why would they re-brand to a name that they gave to the first iteration of the whole game
still waiting for your reply on my comment.
zeldrols [#15]Lol u literally can't justify the 2 ... it's literally like ow2 rebrand cringe
the difference is ow2 promised more and underdelivered (pve when?) while cs2 promised only an engine change and overdeliverd by fixing a lot of the community's complaints of csgo.
titanwithpp [#26]Engine update is not changing anything in the game. The graphics are now as comparable to 2015-16 and the only new thing is smoke pathway. Its still the same game. Counter Strike 2 would make sense if they changed character models and guns and added new never seen before maps and also more ways to play the game itself, for example breakable environment.
As of now its nothing but a big update.
nobody wants the core gameplay to change. they just want quality of life features and new engine
they are going to rotate map pool ("touchstone" maps will probably be rotated out) and breakable environment is stupid.
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