Hi I am Gold 2 rn. I always have a nervous aim meaning I consciously afraid that what if I miss a shot whenever I’m aiming. How do I correct this. Also any tips for aim training for gold 2 level players and improve my game sense and thinking? Thanks in advance for your advice.
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Need Advice - Gold 2 APAC - Nervous aim
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Tesla09 [#4]Big fan Mr Ajay I wish I can shoot heads like you!
Mr ajay is plat hardstuck dont listen to him
ortuh [#5]what sens / dpi? youre probs on a stupidly high sens and half of your aim problems could be solved by either a bigger mousepad or lowering your sens
0.3 1600 dpi is it too high?
For aim I spend a lot of time in the range. I dont mean the Basic one. The Plant and Defuse ones on Hard mode. Its pretty good to figure the best ways to peak and stuff. As for game sense the more you play the game the more it developes so keep playing and you'll get used to certain timings. One thing you can also do is record VODs of yourself and then think of what you could've done diff that wouldve helped you make a play or not die in a particular situation.
Tesla09 [#7]0.3 1600 dpi is it too high?
yes kinda high in my opinion
I use 0.16 1600 dpi (used to be 0.3 800 dpi)
washed immortal btw
Tesla09 [#7]0.3 1600 dpi is it too high?
its not as bad as I thought it would be, but most pros play at or under 0.2 1600.
would you say its more of a mental thing or a physical thing, like are you struggling to aim at them when you're nervous, or because you struggle to aim you get nervous when aiming? Hopefully that makes sense
ortuh [#12]its not as bad as I thought it would be, but most pros play at or under 0.2 1600.
would you say its more of a mental thing or a physical thing, like are you struggling to aim at them when you're nervous, or because you struggle to aim you get nervous when aiming? Hopefully that makes sense
It’s more like when I’m lurking or peeking an angle I feel nervous about my aim and get more shaky if someone wide swings me since I don’t feel confident about my tracking and micro adjustment. Mostly it’s a 50/50 I kill them but idk I feel uncomfortable and nervous knowing that it’s a 50/50 and my aim goes shaky. So I’d say it’s more of a mental thing
I am the same rank as you I would say you can go to Range, Do the 100 Bot challenge or Try beating 15-20 bots in Hard mode, 25 bots in case of Medium Mode. and after that go to DM, Do the Guardian DM or use the Vandal whatever is comfortable for you. If you can try Aim Labs but that's your wish. As for gamesense you can watch a lot of Pro games learn a thing or 2 from them and apply to your games. That's how I train. Yes I'm still inconsistent but I don't play as often unfortunately
practice crosshair placement and dont be afraid to whiff shots. everytime u do a mistake question yrself how u could have played it better. play more rat angles and off angles. jiggle/jump peek to gather info and run while wide swing instead of walk
you can use this video as a guide:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rUpglPIlQE
ortuh [#5]what sens / dpi? youre probs on a stupidly high sens and half of your aim problems could be solved by either a bigger mousepad or lowering your sens
check wippie sens and dpi
Tesla09 [#13]It’s more like when I’m lurking or peeking an angle I feel nervous about my aim and get more shaky if someone wide swings me since I don’t feel confident about my tracking and micro adjustment. Mostly it’s a 50/50 I kill them but idk I feel uncomfortable and nervous knowing that it’s a 50/50 and my aim goes shaky. So I’d say it’s more of a mental thing
Hmm, if its a confidence issue then at least we know where to start when trying to figure out improvements.
I'd say initially, start by lowering your sens if you have the space/mousepad required. Try 0.2 1600 (same as jinggg and s0m, two players with insane aim) as this will help remove some of the effects of the shakiness you are physically outputting. Then over time your mental shakiness should get better if you are starting to see yourself whiff less and less.
If you are still having issues with shakiness at 0.2 1600 then you might have to resort to fixing the shakiness through smoothness training. So either on kovaaks or aimlabs, I can give you smoothness playlists that have tasks dedicated to fixing shakiness in aim.
Tesla09 [#7]0.3 1600 dpi is it too high?
bro, its an ok sens, dont change ur sens bc other ppl said its high LOL
NajibRazak [#18]check wippie sens and dpi
#12
"most pros" play under 0.2 1600.
There are always going to be exceptions to the rule, doesn't mean its better or equal to what 99% of pros use just because a couple of pros manage to use it.
In what world is high sens better? If you can do a 360 comfortably thats probably as high as you need to go, ie around 40cm/360 (0.4 800) if youre using a standard size mousepad. In a tactical fps where each target is standing still, small and in front of you, being able to do more than a 360 is pointless. If youre playing apex or a game where people are moving fast, jumping over you and you need to actually move your crosshair then yea a higher sens (20-30cm/360) is probably preferable.
You are in a lucky position where you have gotten used to a higher sens and built up (maybe) some mouse control due to playing at a high sens, where if you switch to a low sens now you will improve a lot, and get more consistent pretty much overnight. No need to cope and find niche examples to justify your own stupidly high sens. Don't cherry pick data that suits your own perspective, look at the general consensus, (low sens is better) and then decide if you want to ignore it or maybe take it on board.
acels2 [#21]bro, its an ok sens, dont change ur sens bc other ppl said its high LOL
doing something thats suboptimal, but because you are used to it means that you should just stick with it? what if I play on trackpad and I'm used to it, even though it makes it much harder to aim, and switching to using a mouse would make everything easier, I shouldn't switch because its what im used to?
ortuh [#23]doing something thats suboptimal, but because you are used to it means that you should just stick with it? what if I play on trackpad and I'm used to it, even though it makes it much harder to aim, and switching to using a mouse would make everything easier, I shouldn't switch because its what im used to?
its 480 EDPI which is just a lil above average
https://prosettings.net/lists/valorant/
acels2 [#24]its 480 EDPI which is just a lil above average
https://prosettings.net/lists/valorant/
i think saying a lil above average isnt exactly mathematically sound. Pretty sure I remember the average edpi being 240 a while ago, so almost double the average, aka not a lil bit higher
NajibRazak [#15]laughs nervously on 1*800dpi
too slow... i cant play on 0.6 at 2200 even after trying to slowly reduce my sens ;-;
ortuh [#26]i think saying a lil above average isnt exactly mathematically sound. Pretty sure I remember the average edpi being 240 a while ago, so almost double the average, aka not a lil bit higher
hmm true
Tesla09 [#7]0.3 1600 dpi is it too high?
That's around double the typical sensitivity most players use on valorant. That could explain the shaky aim. Although its a preference thing. You could make it work if you are naturalized to this sens.
ortuh [#22]#12
"most pros" play under 0.2 1600.
There are always going to be exceptions to the rule, doesn't mean its better or equal to what 99% of pros use just because a couple of pros manage to use it.
In what world is high sens better? If you can do a 360 comfortably thats probably as high as you need to go, ie around 40cm/360 (0.4 800) if youre using a standard size mousepad. In a tactical fps where each target is standing still, small and in front of you, being able to do more than a 360 is pointless. If youre playing apex or a game where people are moving fast, jumping over you and you need to actually move your crosshair then yea a higher sens (20-30cm/360) is probably preferable.
You are in a lucky position where you have gotten used to a higher sens and built up (maybe) some mouse control due to playing at a high sens, where if you switch to a low sens now you will improve a lot, and get more consistent pretty much overnight. No need to cope and find niche examples to justify your own stupidly high sens. Don't cherry pick data that suits your own perspective, look at the general consensus, (low sens is better) and then decide if you want to ignore it or maybe take it on board.
But you can still aim good even with high sens. Valorant definitely needs more sens than CSGO for example.
Crosshair placement is king in CSGO but as you go higher up the ranks in Valorant, you will see that players who are good on agents like Raze and Jett will almost never take duels where your crosshair is. The satchel movement and Jett's movement abilities allow you to do this and makes taking duels involve much more flicks or movement than your typical tac FPS. And then you have players who are using grim walls and those who abuse off angles with agents like Chamber, Reyna or Omen.
A higher sens benefits both, people who play against such agents and people who play these agents. I think both Forsaken and Jingg have higher sens than usual, that is what enables them to take such crazy gunfights (and win).
Moreover what if its not a sens thing? Maybe its more of a mental thing? Usually changing sens is usually the last resort as muscle memory and mechanics take really really long to develop.
unknown_trash [#28]too slow... i cant play on 0.6 at 2200 even after trying to slowly reduce my sens ;-;
all of yall r insane bro i play 0.4 800
SnooTangerines [#31]But you can still aim good even with high sens. Valorant definitely needs more sens than CSGO for example.
Crosshair placement is king in CSGO but as you go higher up the ranks in Valorant, you will see that players who are good on agents like Raze and Jett will almost never take duels where your crosshair is. The satchel movement and Jett's movement abilities allow you to do this and makes taking duels involve much more flicks or movement than your typical tac FPS. And then you have players who are using grim walls and those who abuse off angles with agents like Chamber, Reyna or Omen.
A higher sens benefits both, people who play against such agents and people who play these agents. I think both Forsaken and Jingg have higher sens than usual, that is what enables them to take such crazy gunfights (and win).
Moreover what if its not a sens thing? Maybe its more of a mental thing? Usually changing sens is usually the last resort as muscle memory and mechanics take really really long to develop.
jinggg low sens forsaken is high sens
SnooTangerines [#31]But you can still aim good even with high sens. Valorant definitely needs more sens than CSGO for example.
Crosshair placement is king in CSGO but as you go higher up the ranks in Valorant, you will see that players who are good on agents like Raze and Jett will almost never take duels where your crosshair is. The satchel movement and Jett's movement abilities allow you to do this and makes taking duels involve much more flicks or movement than your typical tac FPS. And then you have players who are using grim walls and those who abuse off angles with agents like Chamber, Reyna or Omen.
A higher sens benefits both, people who play against such agents and people who play these agents. I think both Forsaken and Jingg have higher sens than usual, that is what enables them to take such crazy gunfights (and win).
Moreover what if its not a sens thing? Maybe its more of a mental thing? Usually changing sens is usually the last resort as muscle memory and mechanics take really really long to develop.
When im in an aiming discussion and the other guy mentions muscle memory I already know theres no point continuing.
"Why ‘muscle memory’ is seen as a meme in aiming"
Also what are you talking about lmao. Ok so theres one team (who went 0-1) who have this unbeatable playstyle due to everyone playing low sens and they play high sens and dive bomb playstyle. So 2 out of the 5 players you will be shooting at, where they will only be doing explosive entries on attack (half the game) means you change your sens so you can track someone who moves sideways at about half of your fov? So you should change your sens so that you can do 4 spins so that you can do a 90 degree turn quicker because youre playing against 1 person out of 5 on a team who is entrying on raze.
Low sens is better in EVERY other scenario, no point creating random hypotheticals about very specific situations where the thing you're proving doesnt even make sense.
Zellsis played a very similar style on neon against prx, super aggro dive bombing entries, surely he had to be on high sens bearing in mind he did it better? wait hes on 172 edpi? but they literally shut down these insane entries, on very low sens? how is this possible???
ortuh [#34]When im in an aiming discussion and the other guy mentions muscle memory I already know theres no point continuing.
"Why ‘muscle memory’ is seen as a meme in aiming"
Also what are you talking about lmao. Ok so theres one team (who went 0-1) who have this unbeatable playstyle due to everyone playing low sens and they play high sens and dive bomb playstyle. So 2 out of the 5 players you will be shooting at, where they will only be doing explosive entries on attack (half the game) means you change your sens so you can track someone who moves sideways at about half of your fov? So you should change your sens so that you can do 4 spins so that you can do a 90 degree turn quicker because youre playing against 1 person out of 5 on a team who is entrying on raze.
Low sens is better in EVERY other scenario, no point creating random hypotheticals about very specific situations where the thing you're proving doesnt even make sense.
Zellsis played a very similar style on neon against prx, super aggro dive bombing entries, surely he had to be on high sens bearing in mind he did it better? wait hes on 172 edpi? but they literally shut down these insane entries, on very low sens? how is this possible???
Low sens is better in EVERY other scenario.
Dumb
no point creating random hypotheticals about very specific situations
Duelists are literally the ones that are gonna entry. Given the amount of util in the game, anyone can hold a chokepoint in valorant. To counteract that, you have duelists that can dash into site, blastpack in your face with a judge and apparently, it took your "top" teams in the world around 1 year to counter this kind of gameplay by and their strategy was literally sitting in spawn and let PRX push them. Well what about the sova recons and fade recons you have to turn 180 to break, surely you cannot preaim the standard dart spots every single time? Or how about the dozens of flashes that exist in this game? Or what about when a Yoru or Omen TP behind you? These are not hypothetical scenarios. This is literally 70% of the gun duels in the game. Unless of course if you are playing against irons who simply dry peek you without any flashes or util. Just look at how many rounds pro teams of the same level win when their duelist or initiator dies early on attack.
You missed the point that sens at its core is a personal preference and you are forcing a gold 2 player to lower his sense while we all clearly know that there might be other issues that can be worked on before. Especially when the thread is literally called "nervous aim". Sure, nervous aim might come down to shaky aim and the sens "might" be an issue. But it is not the only issue and you cannot simply say that "lowering" your sens will fix the issue.
And to prove your point you have linked a medium article whose authors themselves say this in their conclusion.
The mechanisms* “muscle memory” formally refers to are very much so real, although all too often misunderstood and misinterpreted. It is because of this we avoid the term “muscle memory”.
yaiima0 [#27]Personally I find when I think about aiming consciously I tend to miss rather then when I just do it unconsciously.
Same, when i think about a kill that i got(maybe bc it was a nice shot that i was proud of) ill tend to get nervous and question myself, which harms my perfomance a lot. Doing it subconsciously helped a lot. A couple of weeks ago i was really struggling with myself, but after ive done a consistent routine, im doing far better than before.
SnooTangerines [#35]Low sens is better in EVERY other scenario.
Dumb
no point creating random hypotheticals about very specific situations
Duelists are literally the ones that are gonna entry. Given the amount of util in the game, anyone can hold a chokepoint in valorant. To counteract that, you have duelists that can dash into site, blastpack in your face with a judge and apparently, it took your "top" teams in the world around 1 year to counter this kind of gameplay by and their strategy was literally sitting in spawn and let PRX push them. Well what about the sova recons and fade recons you have to turn 180 to break, surely you cannot preaim the standard dart spots every single time? Or how about the dozens of flashes that exist in this game? Or what about when a Yoru or Omen TP behind you? These are not hypothetical scenarios. This is literally 70% of the gun duels in the game. Unless of course if you are playing against irons who simply dry peek you without any flashes or util. Just look at how many rounds pro teams of the same level win when their duelist or initiator dies early on attack.
You missed the point that sens at its core is a personal preference and you are forcing a gold 2 player to lower his sense while we all clearly know that there might be other issues that can be worked on before. Especially when the thread is literally called "nervous aim". Sure, nervous aim might come down to shaky aim and the sens "might" be an issue. But it is not the only issue and you cannot simply say that "lowering" your sens will fix the issue.
And to prove your point you have linked a medium article whose authors themselves say this in their conclusion.
The mechanisms* “muscle memory” formally refers to are very much so real, although all too often misunderstood and misinterpreted. It is because of this we avoid the term “muscle memory”.
Well what about the sova recons and fade recons you have to turn 180
Well you can just turn and shoot them? Low sens doesnt mean you cant turn at all and can just look forward????
I don't understand what your perception of low sens is? you are able to turn, move your mouse, look around. Literally any sens above 0.2 800 can do a 180 on most modern mousepads.
This is literally 70% of the gun duels in the game
We just making up numbers now? There is 1 duelist on each team, they have 1 entry movement moment per round so thats potentially a maximum of 20%. Omen tps require 0 tracking and just a flick of MAXIMUM 180 degrees if they literally tp from infront to directly behind you. Raze satchel / jett dash once again can only make you move a maximum of 180 degrees if they literally go from directly infront to directly behind you.
You missed the point that sens at its core is a personal preference
You missed the point where its not a preference and playing on a lower sens is better. You do not need to have less precision for no reason. You do not need to be able to do more than a 360 for no reason. The only benefit of high sens is being able to move your crosshair faster, which is a redundant point bearing in mind there is no benefit to fast flicks over accurate flicks. See cryo or yay. And its not like low sens players cant flick fast, see any clip from 90% of pro players (they are low sens)
And to prove your point you have linked a medium article whose authors themselves say this in their conclusion.
Yes they say that it's misunderstood, because it is? Muscle memory is real, but with aiming it isnt a factor, you cant learn from muscle memory the exact distance to flick as distance is a continuous metric. Its all hand eye coordination. Read the article or you will just embarrass yourself by quoting something that literally says how you are misunderstanding.
Tesla09 [#7]0.3 1600 dpi is it too high?
i used to play on your exact sens with a corsair harpoon, which is on the heavier end of mice. When I got a new mouse, I immediately halved my sens. I think it's an issue with precision and confidence, so maybe lowering sens will help you out
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