Are there any teams that particularly stand out skill wise compared to others?
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Who is the M80 in EMEA?
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Dont think we have an m80, assuming m80 is actually capable of beating some t1 teams in official matches
In scrims the turkish teams are still gods from what some content creators/pros (sliggy when he watched TL pre LockIn, Derke and another t1 pro who I cant think of right now) have been saying, so it'd be FF and Parla (or ig s2g since they won? they always mentioned the other 2)
I always struggle knowing if that'd translate to real games though since Turkish teams have always been scrimgods; we'll see in ascension
Then Apeks, Acend and Focus look like the balanced teams in terms of playstyle, but im not confident they are better than our t1 teams; they'd certainly put up a fight though imo
And sbg would be the other team Id mention; they have a super aggressive playstyle with a lot of aim duels so I think they would need time in t1 before they do consistently well, but dang they have some good players.
Havent watched/heard from the other VCLs so cant comment on those
lambii0 [#13]The first stage is of no importance in the Turkish league.
In any league, doesn’t mean you throw it
Mortadelo [#16]In any league, doesn’t mean you throw it
well all the others regions get points for the next season^ its only turkey where its completely irrelevant
(but yea the game didnt look like they were throwing it)
Targu1n [#15]Dont think we have an m80, assuming m80 is actually capable of beating some t1 teams in official matches
In scrims the turkish teams are still gods from what some content creators/pros (sliggy when he watched TL pre LockIn, Derke and another t1 pro who I cant think of right now) have been saying, so it'd be FF and Parla (or ig s2g since they won? they always mentioned the other 2)
I always struggle knowing if that'd translate to real games though since Turkish teams have always been scrimgods; we'll see in ascensionThen Apeks, Acend and Focus look like the balanced teams in terms of playstyle, but im not confident they are better than our t1 teams; they'd certainly put up a fight though imo
And sbg would be the other team Id mention; they have a super aggressive playstyle with a lot of aim duels so I think they would need time in t1 before they do consistently well, but dang they have some good players.
Havent watched/heard from the other VCLs so cant comment on those
apeks better than lower franchised EMEA teams
Targu1n [#17]well all the others regions get points for the next season^ its only turkey where its completely irrelevant
(but yea the game didnt look like they were throwing it)
Do you really think you can make ascension without winning the second split in any region? I think that affects a lot more relegation than the playoffs team who are contending to go to ascension in every region
The people that say apeks are clueless. Literally 3 fnatic rejects that were terrible (magnum is actually pretty decent tbf, he just wasnt good enough for the top of tier 1, the other 2 are not). How could apeks be an answer? They dont have a nismo or eeiu equivalent.
Acend has a subpar igl and koalanoob (what a cringe ass ign) shits on ALIVE.
Nah its either a turkish team or no team at all.
Moiraine [#20]The people that say apeks are clueless. Literally 3 fnatic rejects that were terrible (magnum is actually pretty decent tbf, he just wasnt good enough for the top of tier 1, the other 2 are not). How could apeks be an answer? They dont have a nismo or eeiu equivalent.
Acend has a subpar igl and koalanoob (what a cringe ass ign) shits on ALIVE.
Nah its either a turkish team or no team at all.
tbf enzo is also decent in tier 1 and magnum was kicked due to chamber meta. only 1 underperforming constantly was mistic
Yessirskiiii [#23]It's still Parla don't get it twisted. One off game doesn't mean shit
Was rooting for them too. Sadly reverse sweeped
Moiraine [#20]The people that say apeks are clueless. Literally 3 fnatic rejects that were terrible (magnum is actually pretty decent tbf, he just wasnt good enough for the top of tier 1, the other 2 are not). How could apeks be an answer? They dont have a nismo or eeiu equivalent.
Acend has a subpar igl and koalanoob (what a cringe ass ign) shits on ALIVE.
Nah its either a turkish team or no team at all.
did you watch any of their games at all? mistic finished with top rating in the league, hard carrying every game, enzo is igling and still putting up numbers, while magnum is just average, even deadweight sometimes.
bonecold literally won champs with acend? he's a proven igl??
brainless takes
Moiraine [#20]The people that say apeks are clueless. Literally 3 fnatic rejects that were terrible (magnum is actually pretty decent tbf, he just wasnt good enough for the top of tier 1, the other 2 are not). How could apeks be an answer? They dont have a nismo or eeiu equivalent.
Acend has a subpar igl and koalanoob (what a cringe ass ign) shits on ALIVE.
Nah its either a turkish team or no team at all.
keiko fks entire NA with his eyes closed
SENneedstacpausetowin [#28]No one tbh, I think M80 would beat apeks, parla, ff, acend. Not biased but they’re very good prolly better than EG, C9 and Sen rn
no
SENneedstacpausetowin [#28]No one tbh, I think M80 would beat apeks, parla, ff, acend. Not biased but they’re very good prolly better than EG, C9 and Sen rn
ofc
NajibRazak [#22]tbf enzo is also decent in tier 1 and magnum was kicked due to chamber meta. only 1 underperforming constantly was mistic
Enzo was absolute garbage both in copenhagen and champions
People didnt realize how bad he was in copenhagen because he had those 2/3 clutches. so people only remembered those rounds and not the other 100 rounds
bonkashi [#27]did you watch any of their games at all? mistic finished with top rating in the league, hard carrying every game, enzo is igling and still putting up numbers, while magnum is just average, even deadweight sometimes.
bonecold literally won champs with acend? he's a proven igl??
brainless takes
"bonecold literally won champs with acend? he's a proven igl??"
And you tell ME i didnt watch the games ? Br0die is acend's IGL, bonecold is deservedly in tier 1 (Vitality), in a good team.
You fucking goof. You probably looked at the scoreboards and decided Mistic being good vs tier 2 players means that Mistic would actually be on the level of M80.
Br0die is a bad IGL and i stand by what i said, koalanoob would eat ALIVE for breakfast
Your opinion is irrelevant anyways, mans talks about bonecold when he hasnt been in acend for AGES. "you didnt watch the games". You're a fake ass phony.
Dokka [#34]Apeks, Acend, and to some extent fokus and parla
Not fokus atm.
Maybe next split.
But they weren't that impressive this split
capital_d_colon [#35]Not fokus atm.
Maybe next split.
But they weren't that impressive this split
yea thats fair, i feel like they could've had that match against Apeks
they have potential
Hard to say.
But turkey has the most tier 1 level teams.
SUP, PARLA, S2G, FF.
Fnatic and Navi are scrim partners with Parla.
Also Fnatic coach and Boaster say they are the best team in EMEA.
There's also Acend, Apeks and Case but I don't think they are on the same level.
We have to wait and see which Turkish team comes out on top in split 2, because split 1 doesn't count towards ascension.
Cacachocolat [#24]Stay humble NA shitter or you shall get spanked again
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You don’t even have a single good player, the closest that comes to one is ScreaM and he’s Belgian.
Sadmoments [#6]kek parla can't even win
Stfu they are taking these matches as practice since split 1 doesn't matter only split 2 does.
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Also let me tell you something, turkey is the most competitive VCL league.
SUP, FF, S2G are on the same level as Parla
Dokka [#36]yea thats fair, i feel like they could've had that match against Apeks
they have potential
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Apeks and Acend would get smoked by top turkish teams like S2G, SUP, FF, Parla.
These teams would beat most EMEA franchised rosters.
Even Fnatic's coach and boaster said Parla is the best team in EMEA
Mortadelo [#19]Do you really think you can make ascension without winning the second split in any region? I think that affects a lot more relegation than the playoffs team who are contending to go to ascension in every region
a team that comes second in both splits (or wins 1st, 2nd in 2nd) surely has a good shot over a team that didnt place very high now but wins second?
SENneedstacpausetowin [#28]No one tbh, I think M80 would beat apeks, parla, ff, acend. Not biased but they’re very good prolly better than EG, C9 and Sen rn
Bro is clueless.
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Fnatic's coach and boaster consider Parla as the best team in EMEA.
A lot of analysts and coaches also consider Turkish league to be the most competitive VCL.
orthoboy [#18]apeks better than lower franchised EMEA teams
apeks would beat heretics with their eyes closed
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