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Top 3 players in each role rn (OPINION MOMENT)

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zardinez

I'm only considering players on lock in teams. This is a very opinionated list, people are free to make their own. I'm only saying a lot about the first person bc I got things to do yk. Maybe I'll update it more later.

Duelists:

1. Aspas
His performance was fucking unbelievable in that semifinal. More than that, he's been incredibly consistent ever since we've seen him on the international scene. The sole reason I rated him higher than Derke (the other god duelist in this tourney) is because he's been putting up insane numbers in CLOSE MATCHES (3-2 vs DRX, 2-1 vs NRG with that giga overtime). Loud has also been supporting him a little bit less than Fnatic has been supporting Derke and he's still been going WILD. This guy is one of the few players in a top team who's allowed to ego peak whenever he wants because he wins all the fucking time.
2. Derke
I don't think anything needs to be said here :)
3. Cned
This guy's good. Pretty damn good

Initiators:

1. Leo
Holy fuck. I knew this guy was good. I didn't know he was THAT good. Not only has Leo been demonstrating insane individual performances for Fnatic this tournament (winning duels, clutching, just putting up insane numbers), but he's also been an insane TEAM player. His util is almost always perfect. He trades extremely well. His game sense is elite among the elite, and there's no way I could justify putting anyone above this guy (even Shao who's insanely consistent with a ridiculous clutch factor).
2. Shao
Nothing needs to be said here also.
3. Crashies
Some of you might disagree here, and I did really consider other players for this third slot (stax, saadhak, cauanzin, mwzera, cloud, Zyppan?), but come on this guy's so consistently great. You can't ignore this dude.

Controllers:

1. Mako
I do not take criticism on this pick. The only guys with the record to maybe compete simply aren't in this tournament anymore (Marved + Pancada imo). Mako is the absolute backbone of DRX, and a key reason for their top 4 finish this tournament. Utility? Absurdly good. Clutching? Unreal. Teamplay? Top fucking tier. Aim? Gigachad. This guy has it all, and MUST be respected.
2 + 3
Lets be real there's such a big tier gap here, I'm not gonna bother to select people. Kinggg or nats on viper maybe if you count that. S0m was pretty impressive as well. Tuyz is fantastic. But none of them even come close to Mako, and I'm not gonna pretend they do for the sake of a list.

Sentinels:

1. Less
Phenomenal player. He was the worthy MVP of champs 2022 while having a life performance, and even now that he's cooled off a bit, he's barely slowed down. Incredible player with insane gamesense, aim, talent, you name it he's got it. Sentinel players at lock-in, despite having hard meta agents like killjoy, haven't had any consistent "standout" players, but Less comes as close as you can to one. This closeness makes ranking these guys hard af tho.
2. Shyy
This young god is 70% of the reason Lev looked unstoppable (till they met Navi). You can't deny his talent.
3. Alfajer
I still have no clue how tf mini's this good at scouting, but this dude hasn't disappointed all tournament. Because Fnatic is so unbelievably stacked, Alfajer hasn't shone as much as in the past, but he's the real fucking deal.

BONUS CATAGORY:

IGLS:

1. FNS
I don't give a flying fuck about his aim. If aliens came to earth and were like, we need the brain of your most talented valorant IGL or we'll kill everyone, we'd give them FNS's brain 99% of the time. This dude RARELY misses when it comes to midrounding. He's shown again and again and again how he's able to run around just about ANYONE. In a pure IGL ranking, if you don't say FNS, you're either tripping or baiting.
2. Saadhak
This dude's fucking insane. He's like if you took a slightly less experienced FNS, made him brazillian, and taught him to frag. I don't think he's the best at midrounding....yet. But he very well could be in the future. Also massive props to his player development skills. He took the rookies of Aspas and Less and made them into stars with Sacy, and he's fucking done it again with Tuyz and Cauanzin, alone this time. You can't ignore talent like that.
3. Ange1/Boaster
I rate these two equally. It feels like they switch on and off on fragging, but what they're both really great at is stratmaking. Boaster is insane with just making creative and effective strats in general, while Ange1 is the god of antistratting. Can't ignore those abilities one bit (although they both do like feeding for some reason).

Here's my list. Enjoy!

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Ain't readin allat

#3
aylez
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u forgot chronicle, otherwise, good list :]

#4
sheahhhh
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NA usually own the duelist list but teams want to put their duelists on omen and sage nice
Marved owns that fraud Mako btw

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If you were to split the initiator role into flash/scan. what would your top 3 be for both?

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Pretty good actually

#7
zardinez
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If you were to split the initiator role into flash/scan. what would your top 3 be for both?

Mmmmm

Info:

  1. Leo
  2. Shao
  3. Mwzera/Foxz/Shin maybe?

Flash:

  1. Crashies
  2. Chronicle I suppose although I consider him hard flex
  3. kiNgg?
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Mortadelo [#6]

Pretty good actually

No Suygetsu in the top 3 sentinels?

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aylez [#3]

u forgot chronicle, otherwise, good list :]

I just couldn't put him anywhere lol. If I made another catagory called flex gods I'd put chronicle at the top. Then I'd add ardiis and Zekken (yes I don't care he played bad in one game).

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sheahhhh [#4]

NA usually own the duelist list but teams want to put their duelists on omen and sage nice
Marved owns that fraud Mako btw

If he comes back to tier 1, he can prove it then. Rn, Mako is unquestionably king.

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Yessirskiiii [#8]

No Suygetsu in the top 3 sentinels?

Yeah the shy pick is the most controversial, and probably why I didn't consider it 100% accurate, he deserves 2nd place

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W top 3

#13
sheahhhh
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Yessirskiiii [#8]

No Suygetsu in the top 3 sentinels?

overrated AF

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Yessirskiiii
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Mortadelo [#11]

Yeah the shy pick is the most controversial, and probably why I didn't consider it 100% accurate, he deserves 2nd place

Also NaTs "doesn't come close to Mako" even though he's had a way better career. The list is really not that good. + Leo over Shao is reactionary based on 1 game

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Leo has been so good this tourney it's insane

#16
gamr
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Switch aspas and derke

#17
zardinez
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Mortadelo [#11]

Yeah the shy pick is the most controversial, and probably why I didn't consider it 100% accurate, he deserves 2nd place

Suygetsu is great but I rate Shyy equally, and I think he showed more at this tournament. Sentinels are by far the closest category with no clear top contenders, so I totally get if people have different rankings there.

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Yessirskiiii [#14]

Also NaTs "doesn't come close to Mako" even though he's had a way better career. The list is really not that good. + Leo over Shao is reactionary based on 1 game

Don't consider nats a smoker, and I understand why you wouldn't put him on the top after an entire year without playing lan

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Mortadelo [#18]

Don't consider nats a smoker, and I understand why you wouldn't put him on the top after an entire year without playing lan

Yes i agree with Mako being #1 rn (even though NaTs is better, and he will prove it soon). But to say NaTs is not even close is stupid to say the least

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Mortadelo [#18]

Don't consider nats a smoker, and I understand why you wouldn't put him on the top after an entire year without playing lan

Yeah I love nats but I've always considered him more of a sentinel anyway. He plays viper like a senti, not a controller, and he's fucking insane at that. I wish Liquid was a better team so we could've seen more of him, but also I love TS so I'm happy they got a chance to show their stuff off!

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zardinez [#20]

Yeah I love nats but I've always considered him more of a sentinel anyway. He plays viper like a senti, not a controller, and he's fucking insane at that. I wish Liquid was a better team so we could've seen more of him, but also I love TS so I'm happy they got a chance to show their stuff off!

Yes i consider him as a sentinel too but you did put him up for conversation as a controller (which i get)

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zardinez [#17]

Suygetsu is great but I rate Shyy equally, and I think he showed more at this tournament. Sentinels are by far the closest category with no clear top contenders, so I totally get if people have different rankings there.

I'm #1 Lev and Shy fan but just no, SUYGETSU literally demolished Lev. Shy still has a lot to prove

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zardinez
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Yessirskiiii [#19]

Yes i agree with Mako being #1 rn (even though NaTs is better, and he will prove it soon). But to say NaTs is not even close is stupid to say the least

Not even close in this tournament lol (plus I don't consider nats a controller)

This isn't an all time list, if it was I would've included guys like Yay.

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Mortadelo
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Yessirskiiii [#19]

Yes i agree with Mako being #1 rn (even though NaTs is better, and he will prove it soon). But to say NaTs is not even close is stupid to say the least

I don't think he is wrong tho if we're judging nats as a smoker. It's his cypher what shines the most and mako it's just too good at it. nats has to claim that spot throughout the year

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zardinez [#17]

Suygetsu is great but I rate Shyy equally, and I think he showed more at this tournament. Sentinels are by far the closest category with no clear top contenders, so I totally get if people have different rankings there.

Shyy is not equal to Suy at all. He's got a bright future ahead of him and he's definitely the 3rd or 4th best rn

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Yessirskiiii [#21]

Yes i consider him as a sentinel too but you did put him up for conversation as a controller (which i get)

I said that more as a question really, the only other two purebread controllers I'd consider from this tournament are S0m and Tuyz, and I don't think either of them are close to Mako.

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zardinez
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Diebs [#15]

Leo has been so good this tourney it's insane

No fr he's been fucking ridiculous

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zardinez [#26]

I said that more as a question really, the only other two purebread controllers I'd consider from this tournament are S0m and Tuyz, and I don't think either of them are close to Mako.

I don't judge players completely based on one tournament. Yes Mako had the best tournament out of all them tho and like i said he definitely deserves #1

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zardinez
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aTastyCook1e [#12]

W top 3

thank you atastyCook1e

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zardinez [#26]

I said that more as a question really, the only other two purebread controllers I'd consider from this tournament are S0m and Tuyz, and I don't think either of them are close to Mako.

TL will be back stronger

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zardinez
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Mortadelo [#30]

TL will be back stronger

I sincerely hope so 😭😭😭

#32
Yessirskiiii
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Mortadelo [#30]

TL will be back stronger

Lets hope so brother. NaTs will always be my GOAT so i hope to see him win something again

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Duelists:

  1. Derke
  2. Aspas
  3. Cned

Initiators:

  1. Leo
  2. Shao
  3. Chronicle
  4. Crashies

Controllers (weaker since its often igl role):

  1. Mako
  2. Tuyz
  3. Som
  4. Nivera

Sentinels:

  1. Alfajer
  2. Less
  3. Suygetsu
  4. Nats

IGLs:

  1. Boaster
  2. FNS
  3. Saadhak
  4. Ange1
  5. Stax

Top 5 across all Roles:

  1. Leo
  2. Shao
  3. Derke
  4. Mako
  5. Chronicle
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Yessirskiiii [#32]

Lets hope so brother. NaTs will always be my GOAT so i hope to see him win something again

I think they just need to work on the teamwork and give time to Redgar to get used to the English Igling

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zardinez
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Congo1 [#33]

Duelists:

  1. Derke
  2. Aspas
  3. Cned

Initiators:

  1. Leo
  2. Shao
  3. Chronicle
  4. Crashies

Controllers (weaker since its often igl role):

  1. Mako
  2. Tuyz
  3. Som
  4. Nivera

Sentinels:

  1. Alfajer
  2. Less
  3. Suygetsu
  4. Nats

IGLs:

  1. Boaster
  2. FNS
  3. Saadhak
  4. Ange1
  5. Stax

Top 5 across all Roles:

  1. Leo
  2. Shao
  3. Derke
  4. Mako
  5. Chronicle

I mostly agree but Boaster over FNS + Saadhak is ehhhhhhhhhhhhh. He's a great stratmaker and emotional leader, but nowhere near as good of a midrounder as FNS or talent developer as Saadhak. All the others I think are fair. Not sure if chronicle even counts as a initiator tho bc he's been on smokes and senti too. Fantastic player but hard to categorize.

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Mortadelo [#34]

I think they just need to work on the teamwork and give time to Redgar to get used to the English Igling

I'm sorry Mortadelo but Soulcas won't cut it if they want to beat NAVI, FNC, LOUD etc

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Yessirskiiii [#36]

I'm sorry Mortadelo but Soulcas won't cut it if they want to beat NAVI, FNC, LOUD etc

If he doesn't step up he'll end up replaced, it's fine

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Actually pretty good list. Only thing I will add is that Leo has been by far best player at this event. Obviously has the team behind him but just insane player.

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zardinez [#35]

I mostly agree but Boaster over FNS + Saadhak is ehhhhhhhhhhhhh. He's a great stratmaker and emotional leader, but nowhere near as good of a midrounder as FNS or talent developer as Saadhak. All the others I think are fair. Not sure if chronicle even counts as a initiator tho bc he's been on smokes and senti too. Fantastic player but hard to categorize.

Historically yes but Boaster is having a absurd tournament. His midrounding has been great and his stats are the best of all Igls so he is fragging too.

I would have put FNS first if he fragged better.

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Cheddar [#38]

Actually pretty good list. Only thing I will add is that Leo has been by far best player at this event. Obviously has the team behind him but just insane player.

I wouldnt say by far. The MVP can only be him or Shao. He won and played great so it should be Leo.

#41
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"I still have no clue how tf mini's this good at scouting," bruh, every1 knew Alfajer there was no scouting there

#42
Yessirskiiii
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I still think putting Leo over Shao is very reactionary, even though Leo has probably been the MVP of this tournament so far. I just don't get how people watch Shao play and don't think he's the best in the world

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idkbro [#41]

"I still have no clue how tf mini's this good at scouting," bruh, every1 knew Alfajer there was no scouting there

Alfa, Jlerst and Jeyj7y on the same roster man. That shit wasn't fair

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zardinez [#9]

I just couldn't put him anywhere lol. If I made another catagory called flex gods I'd put chronicle at the top. Then I'd add ardiis and Zekken (yes I don't care he played bad in one game).

agreed

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Yessirskiiii [#42]

I still think putting Leo over Shao is very reactionary, even though Leo has probably been the MVP of this tournament so far. I just don't get how people watch Shao play and don't think he's the best in the world

If it makes you feel better i think Leo and Shao are the clear top 2. Personally i think this semi performance pushed leo over Shao but its close.

#46
Yessirskiiii
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Congo1 [#45]

If it makes you feel better i think Leo and Shao are the clear top 2. Personally i think this semi performance pushed leo over Shao but its close.

Yeh they both top 2 but i wont judge it based on 1 game. Especially when FNC were just rolling over NAVI

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Yessirskiiii [#14]

Also NaTs "doesn't come close to Mako" even though he's had a way better career. The list is really not that good. + Leo over Shao is reactionary based on 1 game

Leo had looked better on guild than shao for a long time, before fpx were in peak form, tho

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idkbro [#41]

"I still have no clue how tf mini's this good at scouting," bruh, every1 knew Alfajer there was no scouting there

True I have known about him since the early 2022’s when he was shitting on people as sentinel nice seeing him be recognised by more people now

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Boaster> ange1
marved counts you can put him 2 below mako also why pancada never miss a shot (only when on loud tho ;-;)
Shao vs leo depends on the day tbh both top tier and crashies right on their tail
derke vs aspas is decided tmrw

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Great list but I would put Suygetsu in there. He is insanely good

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zardinez [#7]

Mmmmm

Info:

  1. Leo
  2. Shao
  3. Mwzera/Foxz/Shin maybe?

Flash:

  1. Crashies
  2. Chronicle I suppose although I consider him hard flex
  3. kiNgg?

Crashies still fits into scan initiator. Flash is 100%

  1. Chronicle(probably too low of a sample size but he looks elite rn)
  2. Stax
  3. Zyppan(its 100% for his Kay/o so if u want to change it to cauanzin or kingg)
#52
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I would add Suygetsu and also would switch saadhak position with FNS

#53
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psssss [#50]

Great list but I would put Suygetsu in there. He is insanely good

When suygetsu played sentinel, I didn't like him very much, only with viper would I put him second best

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Duelist:
Aspas / Derke ( until the final matchup )
Cned

Controller:
Mako
Tuyz
Som

Iniciator ( Recon )
Leo
Shao
Mwzera

Iniciator ( Flash)
Cauanzin
Chronicle
Zyppan

Sentinel
Less
Alfajer
Shy

IGL
Saadhack
FNS
Boaster

#55
SamBR
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good

#56
zardinez
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SamBR [#55]

good

Thank you SamBR :)

#57
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Congo1 [#39]

Historically yes but Boaster is having a absurd tournament. His midrounding has been great and his stats are the best of all Igls so he is fragging too.

I would have put FNS first if he fragged better.

I wasn't taking fragging as a consideration in my ranking. I know it matters in practice, but I don't think the best IGL means the best complete player. If I was judging by the latter, I'd put Saadhak first 9/10 times.

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Domination
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Boaster ended ange1 many times before not even equal🗿

#59
zardinez
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Domination [#58]

Boaster ended ange1 many times before not even equal🗿

Alliance broadband detected --->>> opinion discarded

#60
manca
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bro is allergic to taking Ls

#61
zardinez
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manca [#60]

bro is allergic to taking Ls

Thank you brother

#62
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controller role having only #1 is silly
pancada #2
bang #3

If you are ONLY basing the list off of LOCK//IN then yeah only mako has been good but

Bang played well if not a teensy bit worse than Mako at Champs (Bang actually played BETTER (K/D wise) than Mako when they played against each other, and only had a 5% KAST difference between the two, 80% versus 75%. But mako still performed overall better in the event, and he is more consistent. Even then we've seen some crazy shit come out of Bang so i think he def deserves #3.
and Pancada is Pancada. No need to explain.

#63
chimpy
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Marved??

#64
orthoboy
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sheahhhh [#4]

NA usually own the duelist list but teams want to put their duelists on omen and sage nice
Marved owns that fraud Mako btw

Mako was top 10 every tournament he played he is undoubtedly best controller in the world

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zardinez [#9]

I just couldn't put him anywhere lol. If I made another catagory called flex gods I'd put chronicle at the top. Then I'd add ardiis and Zekken (yes I don't care he played bad in one game).

Victor prime clears ardis

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sScary was a top controller

#67
swayway
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bang controller

#68
Adi69LassiSeller
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Yessirskiiii [#2]

Ain't readin allat

Yessirskiiii
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Compare yourself
This zardinez guy solos your entire lore

#69
Adi69LassiSeller
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sheahhhh [#4]

NA usually own the duelist list but teams want to put their duelists on omen and sage nice
Marved owns that fraud Mako btw

https://www.vlr.gg/130691/optic-gaming-vs-drx-valorant-champions-2022-lbf/?game=95153&tab=overview

Mako eats this Fraud for breakfast.
The only reason why Marved left pro play is because he was afraid that he would get exposed by Mako soon. Scaredy cat marved 🐱
C O W A R D

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YshouldICare
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spookmeister [#62]

controller role having only #1 is silly
pancada #2
bang #3

If you are ONLY basing the list off of LOCK//IN then yeah only mako has been good but

Bang played well if not a teensy bit worse than Mako at Champs (Bang actually played BETTER (K/D wise) than Mako when they played against each other, and only had a 5% KAST difference between the two, 80% versus 75%. But mako still performed overall better in the event, and he is more consistent. Even then we've seen some crazy shit come out of Bang so i think he def deserves #3.
and Pancada is Pancada. No need to explain.

Bang deserves 3 even though he's played bad for 2 straight events now? he's played like 10 + games on lan now and he's only popped off ONCE. This kid is the most overrated player of all time. Y'all really acted like he was the second coming of Reykjavik Marved it's crazy.

#71
Valgod
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Not having suygetsu in the sentinels list is crazy

#73
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since_beta [#65]

Victor prime clears ardis

Nah. Ardiis prime he was 2nd best chamber itw

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Duelist: Aspas, Cned and Derke
Controller: Pancada, Mako and Marved
Initiator: Shao, Leo, Sacy/Cauanzin
Sentinel: Less, Nats and Stax
Flex: kinGG, Viktor and Saadhak

#75
since_beta
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GreyDaze [#73]

Nah. Ardiis prime he was 2nd best chamber itw

bruh he talking abt flex

#76
Chirby
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W list

#77
dER1593
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Adi69LassiSeller [#69]

https://www.vlr.gg/130691/optic-gaming-vs-drx-valorant-champions-2022-lbf/?game=95153&tab=overview

Mako eats this Fraud for breakfast.
The only reason why Marved left pro play is because he was afraid that he would get exposed by Mako soon. Scaredy cat marved 🐱
C O W A R D

https://www.vlr.gg/130691/optic-gaming-vs-drx-valorant-champions-2022-lbf/?game=95155&tab=overview
game 5

#79
zardinez
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WE’RE ABOUT TO LEARN WHO DIFFS, DERKE VS ASPAS IM SO FUCKING HYPED LETSGOOOOOO

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i think Suygetsu is better than alfa and Marve if for sure NB 2 on Controller (if not nb. 1, you are overrating MaKo a bit)

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