After watching recent matches I really do believe that TsM would have made it to Iceland had they put in Brax. They are just a better version of V1 with a better jett and better duelists with and strats. Cutler going 2/16 was the main reason why they lost and then having a ACS/ADR of less than 100 on most of his matches while playing controller is rough to carry. With Brax in everyone carries their own weight. Now I know they already played with Brax one challenger qualifications but that was with Hazed out, not cutler. So I feel like them sucking Cutler off hurt them in the long run...
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Seldruddd [#2].
Wardell> Penny
Roza< Zellsis
Hazed<Vanity
Drone> Effys
Brax> Wippie
Their strats and execution wasn't bad... Cutler just lost crucial fights and never stood his ground in matches
Proxyloco [#3]Wardell> Penny
Roza< Zellsis
Hazed<Vanity
Drone> Effys
Brax> Wippie
Their strats and execution wasn't bad... Cutler just lost crucial fights and never stood his ground in matches
why they didn´t qualify then?
Proxyloco [#5]I already said that cutler was the problem losing crucial fights... can u not read?
this is not a card game, you cant just compare player to player and say whic team win LMAO
TinglyPiano [#8]this is not a card game, you cant just compare player to player and say whic team win LMAO
That's why I said their execution and strats aren't bad... crucial fights were lost by Cutler while he did nothing except smoke for the team
hekzy [#7]They should try
Not streaming 8 hours a day
They stopped doing that a long time ago. Wardell barely even streams anymore and same with Subroza
They need to figure out team comp. Brax and Cutler aren’t easily interchangeable.
It’s deeper than individual players, too. TSM constantly chokes and gets clutched against. They brainlessly bum rush the remaining player instead of peeking at the same time. They lose multiple clutches to Hiko every time they play 100T. They almost lost a 5v1 to Poach. They lost a 3v1 against ABX boi, which cost them the map and eventually the series.
Proxyloco [#9]That's why I said their execution and strats aren't bad... crucial fights were lost by Cutler while he did nothing except smoke for the team
Their execution and strats are bad, too. I’m no pro, but former pro JasonR did a fantastic vod review on his Twitch channel.
it's not just a matter of swapping more mechanically gifted players in and out a lineup to fix it's problems. tsm, at its core, has a problem with it's decision in mid to late rounds. they easily lose advantageous situations, and give up crucial picks. Sure, switching cutler out of the roster would help them gain the advantage in the firepower department, but the core issue would still lie within the team
Ullyr [#17]NA is just bad other than SEN. Every other team has inconsistency problems.
v1 to win iceland kek
NGL dude their problems probably only get worse by adding brax over cutler unless someone on their team suddenly becomes a really good igl. They can't adapt, they don't play together, none of them are consistent except for wardell. Their peak is high with this team but it just seems like they are putting in no effort to fix it. Deep rooted problems that will only be fixed by removing most of the roster and/or finding someone who actually can fix their roster.
TinglyPiano [#8]this is not a card game, you cant just compare player to player and say whic team win LMAO
dont talk shit about yugioh
Aster1x [#20]Honestly keep Wardell and Brax drop everyone else, including coach tailored
Possible pick ups: Tarik, AZK, Dicey, Makkaloff, Rara, Player1, NaturE, C0M, Derrek.
I wouldn't mind this ... obviously except for Tarik who has said he will stream, not pursue competing
hilo0829 [#21]dont talk shit about yugioh
I know u are not a magic the gathering player, because I cant small your body odour from here LMAO
Aster1x [#20]Honestly keep Wardell and Brax drop everyone else, including coach tailored
Possible pick ups: Tarik, AZK, Dicey, Makkaloff, Rara, Player1, NaturE, C0M, Derrek.
lul no
maybe tarik has potential but still he needs to grind more valorant to be on par with any top players
Dicey is a jett main so it wouldnt be a good fit
and rest are all shit...why are they even mentioned here
hilo0829 [#26]lul no
maybe tarik has potential but still he needs to grind more valorant to be on par with any top players
Dicey is a jett main so it wouldnt be a good fit
and rest are all shit...why are they even mentioned here
makka and rara are shit? Nah. you're shit. They deserve to be T1 pros
greedeetv [#27]makka and rara are shit? Nah. you're shit. They deserve to be T1 pros
True also Roca was not mentioned
greedeetv [#27]makka and rara are shit? Nah. you're shit. They deserve to be T1 pros
rara is good, forgot to mention him
makka is shit
hilo0829 [#31]no?
Ai ai my bad... ur right they are all pretty bad but C0m and derrek aren't that bad IMO
WitLitning [#13]Their execution and strats are bad, too. I’m no pro, but former pro JasonR did a fantastic vod review on his Twitch channel.
JasonR isn't a pro hes a pugger
Proxyloco [#32]Ai ai my bad... ur right they are all pretty bad but C0m and derrek aren't that bad IMO
stop baiting
Genuine question: what do people see in cutler? Fragging aside, I feel like cutler doesn't even make great midmatch calls. Right now, TSM relies on Wardell to completely pop off and even that can't carry them. If Wardell misses a single op shot on defense, they're completely lost. I feel like they need a COMPLETE restructuring, ESPECIALLY in their calls and IGLing. I honestly think it would better (and worth the risk) to switch in brax and let someone learn how to IGL, just because there needs to be so many changes. They need to do so much growing already, so they should just play the long game and let one of their players develop some IGLing skills.
mynameisacai [#36]I think what Wardell needs is a team like Faze clan, who can help Wardell play well
Keep spirit for Wardell!!
like faze?
faze is just babybay and corey and three bots
nocham [#37]Genuine question: what do people see in cutler? Fragging aside, I feel like cutler doesn't even make great midmatch calls. Right now, TSM relies on Wardell to completely pop off and even that can't carry them. If Wardell misses a single op shot on defense, they're completely lost. I feel like they need a COMPLETE restructuring, ESPECIALLY in their calls and IGLing. I honestly think it would better (and worth the risk) to switch in brax and let someone learn how to IGL, just because there needs to be so many changes. They need to do so much growing already, so they should just play the long game and let one of their players develop some IGLing skills.
I think subroza should IGL for another tournament and see what happens. I watched his POV of the game-ending ace (against BBG, I think), and he really took command of that round (“use Sova ult, I peek off that”).
WitLitning [#39]I think subroza should IGL for another tournament and see what happens. I watched his POV of the game-ending ace (against BBG, I think), and he really took command of that round (“use Sova ult, I peek off that”).
I haven't seen the clip but I think they're at the point where just letting other players try it is a good move. If subroza has some experience with it, then they should definitely test drive that some more. I think there's something powerful about a duelist type character IGLing.
hilo0829 [#21]dont talk shit about yugioh
Yeah yugioh(without some of the less savory community members) is an amazing game cant talk shit abt it
Proxyloco [#41]Wtf u mean former... he never played pro in Val...
He was former pro csgo player. TSM don't have a good IGL. Hazed did a mediocre job igling and it was indeed mostly cutlers fault. But they would have eventually lost to another team even without cutler since they dont have much experience with Brax. But now they lost and Hazed took over Cutlers position of IGling, they are most likely going to drop cutler and are going to scrim and practice with brax and pop off next tourney they play.
hekzy [#7]They should try
Not streaming 8 hours a day
lmao Shazham does that always but he is still always better at the every pro game
Proxyloco [#41]Wtf u mean former... he never played pro in Val...
a lot of their mistakes were cs fundamentals related e.g not peaking in the same time, going in close quarters/alone during eco rounds. JasonR is a former cs pro and pointed them out. You can watch the vod for yourself, they are obvious mistakes which suggest a lack of coordination.
DonRobs [#47]Envy, 100 Thieves, Version1, Cloud9 Blue, Sentinels and NRG are all the teams that would've absolutely shit on TSM
u forgetting andbox and xset :) basically, everyone that qualed
georges [#15]it's not just a matter of swapping more mechanically gifted players in and out a lineup to fix it's problems. tsm, at its core, has a problem with it's decision in mid to late rounds. they easily lose advantageous situations, and give up crucial picks. Sure, switching cutler out of the roster would help them gain the advantage in the firepower department, but the core issue would still lie within the team
I feel like what you said also shows that cutler's IGLing isn't even that good. Their calls and midround improvising is lacklaster so I feel like dropping cutler is necessary at this point. If he were fragging OR making really great calls, it would be fine because he could seemingly just work on one of those things. But, he isn't really doing either of those well in my opinion.
EDIT: Obviously, a new coach would be great too, but I was focusing on cutler in particular.
georges [#18]v1 to win iceland kek
Yes, followed up by Judgement Day the day after.. 'cus that would be the ultimate end-time sign I'd say.
With Brax on the team a lot can change. I just want it to happen as quick as possible so that they get the time to practice way before Quals.
Wardell can single handedly win you a round.
Subroza can single handedly win you a round.
Drone can single handedly win you a round.
Hazed can single handedly win you a round.
Cutler can't thats a fact.
FACT: Last time Cutler had 3 kill round it was against luminosity 0-2 loss.
Brax is a player who can single handedly turn the tables. With the strats changing versatility being the key part of the game TSM should make a bold move.
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