Guess I have to prove this dumb braziliean wrong yet again smh. Optic is not a super team. First of all, FNS has been part of the team from the very beginning. He was always known as a good igl and been doing it for a while, but constantly everyone be making fun of FNS for his aim and kda. Then we got crashies who was a top 5 sova in NA, but he been trying different roles like viper. He has been a good player throughout his years on the team. Victor who was crashies duo since T1 days has been a good duelist, but he got switched to flex and has been playing it pretty well. Marved was added to the team since he was a good smoke player. Nobody thought marved would be a top 5 smoke player in the world at the time, but he played and played and just kept improving. Their last addition YAY is the only super player that everyone could have agreed upon before Optic won reykjavik. He been dropping 40+ during scrims back and forth and was really hyped up and lived up to the hype for the most part. 4 out of these 5 players have all just been good or above average and there was nothing super about them, but now with this roster they won reykjavik so people are calling them a super team from NA. They have good talent, but NA has better talent, its just Optic has a better vision for the game than others. However, ur LOUD has literally the best sova from BRazil, best Igl, best smoke, tied for the best jett along with Heat, and best sentinel player. And that team got clapped by an above average talented NA team with good structure. (U really made me type all this for no reason u delusional moron)