As a LOUD supporter, I want optic back

Just get yay and marved and make the goated team again, this isn't fun to just see loud wipe everyone

Save NA

Hear hear

me too

there will be no fun, man...
sadge
pls bring optic back

I think no team will be able to beat loud rn

Don't say that. There is DRX and NAVI and they are both good teams. It's going to be a good match, no one is going to get wiped.

Overconfidence will bite you in the ass. Keep the same energy or DRX might 3-0 sweep

arin2016 [#6]

Don't say that. There is DRX and NAVI and they are both good teams. It's going to be a good match, no one is going to get wiped.

ofc will, but we want optic bc of the rivalry
el clásico

arin2016 [#6]

Don't say that. There is DRX and NAVI and they are both good teams. It's going to be a good match, no one is going to get wiped.

Still I want optic back, nrg vs loud was the best game of the tournament

eszett [#8]

ofc will, but we want optic bc of the rivalry
el clásico

We need LOUD to have a few more match ups with NRG to see if they deserve the position of LOUD's rivals. Sadly, I don't think we're going to have the old Optic roster in one team.

I agree.

Shownu [#7]

Overconfidence will bite you in the ass. Keep the same energy or DRX might 3-0 sweep

they talk about franchised leagues, not the lock in

KynnG [#5]

I think no team will be able to beat loud rn

on americas? either nrg get to the finals, counter strat tf outta loud and pray for fns to hit his shots or they might bag the first americas league dropping like 5 maps in total, if any at all. internationally i can see NAVI and maybe, just maybe, FNC

Bro NRG is doing fine.
Optic in the current meta wouldn't be as good as NRG.
Ardiis have a wider agent pool compared to Yay and S0m is doing really well on controller.

You’re talking as if it weren’t for a lucky spam kill Loud would’ve been eliminated by NRG

One thing I know for sure, if LOUD cant win on their homeland, they wont win anything anywhere else.

Also u guys doesn't need NRG to be ur rival anymore. There is literally navi and fnatic in front of ur door knocking. Kekw

lorenzopajaroFC [#15]

You’re talking as if it weren’t for a lucky spam kill Loud would’ve been eliminated by NRG

So? Ardiis also got an insane amount of random spam kills, of course when it goes to 3rd map overtime it's a coinflip but still
In the end, individual hero clutches saved loud (cauanzin on 12-11 and tuyz on 16-15)

Bring yay = worse nrg, based on meta
Bring marved = obvious upgrade

Shownu [#7]

Overconfidence will bite you in the ass. Keep the same energy or DRX might 3-0 sweep

Typical UK text comprehension

EDIT: Typical UK Shownu text comprehension

Chow1E [#18]

Bring yay = worse nrg, based on meta
Bring marved = obvious upgrade

Disagree... Yay's Jett is insane actually, but his agent pool is kinda shit since he's not that effective using Raze and Neon

Yeah you can see with NaVi and DRX that there's value in keeping a successful main roster together (mostly), losing Optic as a superpower is a huge blow for the Americas as a whole in terms of competition and growth for the region.

Instead of a team innovating and leading the way, we find ourselves with all the NA teams in franshising playing catch-up re-establishing calling systems and fundamentals.

Shownu [#7]

Overconfidence will bite you in the ass. Keep the same energy or DRX might 3-0 sweep

they're talking about americas league, since they will be playing mostly in that league they want a good to team to keep up with them

kbkdark [#19]

Typical UK text comprehension

EDIT: Typical UK Shownu text comprehension

hey come on man we aren't all like that dont generalise

Glaciate05 [#21]

Yeah you can see with NaVi and DRX that there's value in keeping a successful main roster together (mostly), losing Optic as a superpower is a huge blow for the Americas as a whole in terms of competition and growth for the region.

Instead of a team innovating and leading the way, we find ourselves with all the NA teams in franshising playing catch-up re-establishing calling systems and fundamentals.

What are you talking about?
NRG is still optic's core.
Ardiis is more suited for current meta because he has wider agent pool and s0m is doing well on smokes.
I can guarantee you if you could put optic in this tournament they wouldn't be as good as you think.

Navi could beat LOUD. They have been playing super well. That said, we will see though.

I also want Optic back, tbh. They are a fantastic team and every game was super fun to watch. Fantastic plays.

Glaciate05 [#21]

Yeah you can see with NaVi and DRX that there's value in keeping a successful main roster together (mostly), losing Optic as a superpower is a huge blow for the Americas as a whole in terms of competition and growth for the region.

Instead of a team innovating and leading the way, we find ourselves with all the NA teams in franshising playing catch-up re-establishing calling systems and fundamentals.

this

LOUD still has saadhak, aspas and less. Saadhak himself said less is on its way to become the new "sacy" for him, Less is currently saad's right hand and aspas has intelligence and notion to also call some shots during the round. Tuyz and Cauan had some LAN experience even before LOUD, but they're both beasts, cauan is a clutch machine, when the kid is alone on a round there's always hope (like with pancada)

I think undoubtedly, LOUD and NRG are the best teams on america but honestly they're really on par.

On the same stream, saadhak said FNS fried his brain and he loves to face FNS cause he always take him to the edge on the IGL battle

Chow1E [#18]

Bring yay = worse nrg, based on meta
Bring marved = obvious upgrade

We still not giving s0m his credit?

Glaciate05 [#23]

hey come on man we aren't all like that dont generalise

Sorry... just in the heat of the moment
I'll edit it

Done

kbkdark [#28]

Sorry... just in the heat of the moment
I'll edit it

Done

kekw

Glaciate05 [#29]

kekw

😁

FOR GODS SAKE, OP IS TALKING ABOUT THE AMERICAS LEAGUE
CAN YOU GUYS STOP TALKING ABOUT NAVI, DRX AND FNATIC

Zayol [#24]

What are you talking about?
NRG is still optic's core.
Ardiis is more suited for current meta because he has wider agent pool and s0m is doing well on smokes.
I can guarantee you if you could put optic in this tournament they wouldn't be as good as you think.

Same reason I didn't include Fnatic I didn't include NRG as 2 roster changes has a huge impact, yes the new players are doing extremely well but they don't have same level synergy that old optic team had in matches. It's nothing any individual player is doing wrong but a problem that they will work on improving over team. Therefore they are working at a disadvantage.

Hopefully that's clearer.

I understand wanting them back but I can see the current NRG doing as well in the near future - s0m is definitely capable of doing better than Marved (I actually prefer him instead) and I can see ardiis provide a different kind of depth into the team making them stronger

GlxyMan [#27]

We still not giving s0m his credit?

he need time

kbkdark [#19]

Typical UK text comprehension

EDIT: Typical UK Shownu text comprehension

Listen I was faded at 2 am

arin2016 [#10]

We need LOUD to have a few more match ups with NRG to see if they deserve the position of LOUD's rivals. Sadly, I don't think we're going to have the old Optic roster in one team.

Given the NRG vs LOUD match, and the fact that NRG is the optic core, they have earned rival status

sylv1o [#17]

So? Ardiis also got an insane amount of random spam kills, of course when it goes to 3rd map overtime it's a coinflip but still
In the end, individual hero clutches saved loud (cauanzin on 12-11 and tuyz on 16-15)

The point is Loud didn’t “wipe everyone”, the match was a coinflip and the current NRG is also goated