Sentinels vs. Version1 | Champions Tour North America Stage 2: Challengers Finals | Main Event | Valorant match

	vanity V1	effys V1	wippie V1	Zellsis V1	penny V1
SicK SEN	9 10 -1	10 9 +1	15 8 +7	9 6 +3	10 8 +2
dapr SEN	9 9 +0	6 9 -3	11 5 +6	12 2 +10	13 11 +2
zombs SEN	12 7 +5	13 3 +10	3 6 -3	12 6 +6	8 15 -7
TenZ SEN	10 8 +2	12 10 +2	15 4 +11	14 12 +2	10 10 +0
ShahZaM SEN	11 2 +9	9 7 +2	9 7 +2	11 9 +2	10 12 -2

	vanity V1	effys V1	wippie V1	Zellsis V1	penny V1
SicK SEN	2 1 +1	1 1 +0	1 4 -3	1 0 +1	4 2 +2
dapr SEN	2 1 +1		1 1 +0	5 0 +5	2 1 +1
zombs SEN	1 1 +0	1 0 +1		4 0 +4	2 2 +0
TenZ SEN	3 1 +2	1 0 +1	1 0 +1	4 3 +1	5 2 +3
ShahZaM SEN	2 0 +2	1 0 +1			1 0 +1

	vanity V1	effys V1	wippie V1	Zellsis V1	penny V1
SicK SEN
dapr SEN					0 1 -1
zombs SEN					0 1 -1
TenZ SEN	1 0 +1		1 0 +1		1 0 +1
ShahZaM SEN			3 0 +3	2 0 +2	2 2 +0

	2K	3K	4K	1v1	1v2	1v4	ECON	PL	DE
TenZ SEN	7	8	2				58	0	0
SicK SEN	6	5	1	1	1		56	8	2
ShahZaM SEN	6	2	1	1	1		56	3	0
zombs SEN	8	3			2		49	8	1
dapr SEN	10	3					54	8	0
effys V1	8		1	1			50	4	1
Zellsis V1	5	2					43	2	0
wippie V1	2	1		1			38	2	1
penny V1	7	6	2	2		1	59	2	4
vanity V1	6	1		1	2		40	3	1

	vanity V1	effys V1	wippie V1	Zellsis V1	penny V1
SicK SEN	4 1 +3	3 3 +0	7 5 +2	3 1 +2	2 1 +1
dapr SEN	5 5 +0	3 2 +1	5 1 +4	3 1 +2	5 2 +3
zombs SEN	2 2 +0	5 1 +4	0 1 -1	6 3 +3	5 5 +0
TenZ SEN	3 1 +2	3 5 -2	5 2 +3	4 2 +2	3 2 +1
ShahZaM SEN	2 0 +2	3 2 +1	0 4 -4	1 5 -4	1 1 +0

	vanity V1	effys V1	wippie V1	Zellsis V1	penny V1
SicK SEN	1 0 +1	1 1 +0	1 4 -3		0 1 -1
dapr SEN	2 0 +2
zombs SEN		1 0 +1		1 0 +1	1 1 +0
TenZ SEN	1 0 +1	1 0 +1		1 0 +1	2 1 +1
ShahZaM SEN

	vanity V1	effys V1	wippie V1	Zellsis V1	penny V1
SicK SEN
dapr SEN
zombs SEN
TenZ SEN
ShahZaM SEN

	2K	3K	4K	1v1	1v2	ECON	PL	DE
TenZ SEN	3 Round 7 vanity wippie Round 15 effys vanity Round 21 Zellsis wippie		1 Round 13 vanity effys wippie Zellsis			56	0	0
SicK SEN	3 Round 1 effys Zellsis Round 14 effys wippie Round 16 wippie vanity	1 Round 17 vanity Zellsis wippie	1 Round 20 Zellsis wippie vanity penny		1 Round 20 penny vanity	63	3	1
ShahZaM SEN	1 Round 18 vanity effys					32	1	0
zombs SEN	3 Round 2 penny effys Round 10 vanity Zellsis Round 16 effys Zellsis	1 Round 11 vanity Zellsis effys			1 Round 10 Zellsis vanity	50	2	0
dapr SEN	4 Round 4 vanity effys Round 6 wippie penny Round 12 vanity Zellsis Round 14 vanity penny	2 Round 2 vanity wippie Zellsis Round 7 penny effys Zellsis				61	3	0
effys V1	4 Round 3 TenZ ShahZaM Round 10 TenZ SicK Round 18 zombs TenZ Round 19 dapr SicK					61	0	1
Zellsis V1	1 Round 6 TenZ ShahZaM	1 Round 4 zombs SicK dapr				47	1	0
wippie V1		1 Round 9 SicK dapr TenZ				46	0	0
penny V1	1 Round 12 zombs dapr	1 Round 11 TenZ dapr zombs		1 Round 11 zombs		43	0	3
vanity V1	1 Round 19 zombs TenZ					31	0	0

	vanity V1	effys V1	wippie V1	Zellsis V1	penny V1
SicK SEN	3 4 -1	4 5 -1	6 1 +5	4 2 +2	5 4 +1
dapr SEN	2 2 +0	3 4 -1	3 2 +1	8 0 +8	5 4 +1
zombs SEN	6 1 +5	4 1 +3	2 3 -1	2 2 +0	1 5 -4
TenZ SEN	4 4 +0	5 2 +3	4 1 +3	3 4 -1	5 2 +3
ShahZaM SEN	2 1 +1	2 3 -1	3 1 +2	3 2 +1	2 6 -4

	vanity V1	effys V1	wippie V1	Zellsis V1	penny V1
SicK SEN	1 0 +1				2 1 +1
dapr SEN			1 0 +1	5 0 +5	1 1 +0
zombs SEN	1 0 +1			1 0 +1	1 1 +0
TenZ SEN	1 0 +1			1 0 +1	2 1 +1
ShahZaM SEN	1 0 +1

	vanity V1	effys V1	wippie V1	Zellsis V1	penny V1
SicK SEN
dapr SEN					0 1 -1
zombs SEN					0 1 -1
TenZ SEN	1 0 +1		1 0 +1		1 0 +1
ShahZaM SEN					0 2 -2

	2K	3K	4K	1v1	1v2	ECON	PL	DE
TenZ SEN	1 Round 16 effys vanity TenZ	4 Round 3 wippie effys penny Round 9 penny effys wippie Round 13 penny Zellsis effys TenZ Round 18 penny wippie vanity	1 Round 17 penny Zellsis effys vanity			58	0	0
SicK SEN	3 Round 2 wippie penny Round 6 penny wippie Round 8 effys vanity SicK	3 Round 5 Zellsis effys penny Round 10 vanity wippie effys Round 22 wippie Zellsis effys		1 Round 22 effys		61	3	1
ShahZaM SEN	2 Round 5 vanity wippie Round 21 effys Zellsis					46	0	0
zombs SEN	4 Round 4 vanity effys Round 6 effys vanity Round 11 vanity wippie Round 18 Zellsis effys				1 Round 15 effys vanity	45	5	0
dapr SEN	5 Round 1 effys penny Round 2 Zellsis effys Round 8 Zellsis penny Round 9 Zellsis vanity Round 10 penny Zellsis					61	2	0
effys V1	2 Round 5 dapr TenZ Round 20 dapr ShahZaM		1 Round 14 SicK ShahZaM zombs TenZ			53	2	0
Zellsis V1	3 Round 15 TenZ ShahZaM Round 19 SicK TenZ Round 22 zombs ShahZaM					34	1	0
wippie V1	2 Round 3 dapr ShahZaM Round 20 zombs TenZ			1 Round 13 TenZ		33	2	1
penny V1	4 Round 3 SicK zombs Round 4 ShahZaM zombs Round 11 SicK ShahZaM Round 13 dapr ShahZaM	1 Round 7 zombs ShahZaM dapr	1 Round 12 dapr zombs TenZ ShahZaM			53	1	0
vanity V1	1 Round 4 TenZ SicK	1 Round 19 dapr ShahZaM zombs		1 Round 3 TenZ	2 Round 16 dapr TenZ Round 19 ShahZaM zombs	44	0	1

	vanity V1	effys V1	wippie V1	Zellsis V1	penny V1
SicK SEN	2 5 -3	3 1 +2	2 2 +0	2 3 -1	3 3 +0
dapr SEN	2 2 +0	0 3 -3	3 2 +1	1 1 +0	3 5 -2
zombs SEN	4 4 +0	4 1 +3	1 2 -1	4 1 +3	2 5 -3
TenZ SEN	3 3 +0	4 3 +1	6 1 +5	7 6 +1	2 6 -4
ShahZaM SEN	7 1 +6	4 2 +2	6 2 +4	7 2 +5	7 5 +2

	vanity V1	effys V1	wippie V1	Zellsis V1	penny V1
SicK SEN	0 1 -1			1 0 +1	2 0 +2
dapr SEN	0 1 -1		0 1 -1		1 0 +1
zombs SEN	0 1 -1			2 0 +2
TenZ SEN	1 1 +0		1 0 +1	2 3 -1	1 0 +1
ShahZaM SEN	1 0 +1	1 0 +1			1 0 +1

	vanity V1	effys V1	wippie V1	Zellsis V1	penny V1
SicK SEN
dapr SEN
zombs SEN
TenZ SEN
ShahZaM SEN			3 0 +3	2 0 +2	2 0 +2

	2K	3K	4K	1v1	1v2	1v4	ECON	PL	DE
TenZ SEN	3 Round 13 Zellsis penny Round 14 Zellsis wippie Round 22 wippie Zellsis	4 Round 3 penny effys Zellsis Round 5 vanity Zellsis wippie Round 11 Zellsis wippie effys Round 18 wippie vanity Zellsis					60	0	0
SicK SEN		1 Round 20 Zellsis wippie effys					45	2	0
ShahZaM SEN	3 Round 8 Zellsis wippie Round 19 wippie Zellsis Round 20 vanity penny	2 Round 12 wippie Zellsis vanity Round 14 effys penny vanity	1 Round 15 vanity Zellsis effys wippie	1 Round 15 wippie	1 Round 21 penny wippie		90	2	0
zombs SEN	1 Round 16 Zellsis effys	2 Round 1 vanity penny wippie Round 21 Zellsis effys vanity					53	1	1
dapr SEN	1 Round 22 vanity penny	1 Round 10 vanity wippie Zellsis					40	3	0
effys V1	2 Round 5 ShahZaM TenZ Round 13 dapr TenZ			1 Round 1 zombs			37	2	0
Zellsis V1	1 Round 19 TenZ dapr	1 Round 4 zombs SicK ShahZaM					47	0	0
wippie V1							34	0	0
penny V1	2 Round 1 TenZ ShahZaM Round 9 SicK ShahZaM	4 Round 7 dapr ShahZaM TenZ Round 8 TenZ zombs ShahZaM Round 19 SicK ShahZaM zombs Round 21 dapr zombs TenZ	1 Round 18 zombs TenZ dapr SicK	1 Round 7 TenZ		1 Round 18 dapr SicK zombs TenZ	80	1	1
vanity V1	4 Round 2 zombs ShahZaM Round 9 dapr zombs Round 14 TenZ SicK Round 17 TenZ zombs						45	3	0

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Version1

VCT NA S2: Challengers Finals

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Bobstar

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SEN vs 100T grand finals (watch SEN are gonna get knocked to the lower brackets again)

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xd_mau5

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Oh no

#42

unholymouse

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Who's gonna tell him?

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SENBobstar

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I mean I guessed this a week ago lol

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PandaPrince

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should we tell him? or let him find out?

#124

array

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Rizvi

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This match would actually be useless, both teams would already be qualified and there is actually no seeding required

VALoka

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VALoka

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u get 40k opposed to getting 20k if in second place

#104

salty

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Don't they also play for circuit points in this too? If they do then its important for V1 as they started out this event with no pts.

#118

turkey

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no their circuit points come from how they place in iceland

#144

JCBrute

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Yeah, but wherever they place in Iceland, they are guaranteed 150 circuit points at the least, which takes sen to 250. they can easily make it to champions IMO

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turkey

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yeah i think their ticket is already punched to champions i think they’ll do well in stage 3 too

Swiftmal12

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1st gets 40k second gets 20k not bad

GodOfPog

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"money is money who cares about seeding" -Dapr

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Kenzhi

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fr tho seeding is not that important I mean andbox got the 8th seed and defeated sen in a 2-0 fashion

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PG_newt

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what about like... idk, PRIZE MONEY

#32

Kenzhi

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yeah just like he said no one cares about seeding in terms of placements but seeding in MONEY is heck of a lot

#26

hiyo

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teezmageez

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this match is just for the prize money, first place gets double the amount of money as second place

Novaura

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The winner of 100t vs Andbox and NV will be making rejavik

#83

PandaPrince

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yes ....you are 100% correct.. sry xD

BEbow

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XSET vs Sentinels

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turkey

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hot take i like it

Kenzhi

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SEN vs NRG(oh yes a bold guess)

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Kenzhi

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lol this goes so wrong

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V0sotros

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100T and NV

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FireII

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100T (upper) vs XSET (lower)

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Swiftmal

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Wow very wrong

#12

alexzoid

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100T 3-1 SEN

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Styx

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SEN 3-2 100T

Both are very strong teams but I feel like SEN wants it more, to prove that they still are the best team in NA after Masters 1.

#15

alexzoid

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After not making challengers 1 and losing to ABX in challengers 2 I feel like 100T are more solid than SEN. I could be wrong tho

#16

Styx

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I feel like losing to ABX in R1 and not making challengers 1 has given them more to fight for. They are using their losses as energy and they keep fighting back. Look how they were against T1, they were down horribly but came back to win 2 back to back games. It proves they still have the fight that they had in Masters. 100T has a better track record in previous games, but SEN can change how a match is and find drive when it seems like they've lost.

#21

alexzoid

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I agree with this but not really. SEN will definitely have the motivation to make a comeback after they struggled previously this stage, but I feel like it also makes them a little shaky and more inconsistent. 100T have been steadily consistent and have only shown improvement imo. If we see SEN lock in and fix their struggles, then they could take this tournament. Otherwise, 100T takes this with dominance.

#25

Styx

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Well after losing R1 to ABX they went close to flawless the rest of the tourney and they 3-0 a promising looking C9 Blue (weird to say c9 blue looks promising). They have the drive and they put up a solid performance through the lower bracket. Both teams are solid going into finals with solid rosters and performances. Its a tough choice, but SEN's run from a R1 loss has shown me more drive than 100T which makes me think they are more solid.

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Psion

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close to flawless? they should've lost to T1 but T1 threw 2 maps, and IMT also threw haven. It wasn't flawless, the other teams just threw harder.

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Styx

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That's why I said close to flawless, they still won the match even with being down. Also, why would these teams want to throw?? They all want to make it to finals/masters. It makes no sense for them to throw.

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Psion

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almost losing twice is not close to flawless XD. They didn't purposely throw, they just made all the wrong moves and decisions.

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Styx

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They almost lost but didnt.... that is why it was close to flawless, they won 2-1 in 2/5 series. That is less than 50% and close to flawless.

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alexzoid

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you ended up being smarter than me

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saladpalad

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imagine doubting sentinels

#17

STRAWHAT

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All i want is for NA to be represented the best way possible in Reykjavik so my hopes are 100T SEN to qualify, but really may the best team win ! GL

#18

sentence

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SEN NV

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turkey

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100T 3-0 NV

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Sheharwa

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I have a Strong feeling NV, SEN & 100T..this level,,,, But we seen alot of upset

#24

Seldruddd

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100t vs SEN or 100t vs NV if its NV then 100t wins 3-1 if its SEN then SEN wins 3-2 in epic final. 100t is good but SEN plays in a way that just disrupts all their strats and always counters them even if their kinda playing bad right now

#28

yunoo

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SEN vs XSET

#33

Motobe

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No T1 and TSM sadge, they might not be the best but they're the most entertaining.

#34

kungfupanda

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SEN 3-2 NV

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plas

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i would like for an underdog to make it but honestly it would be best if a consistent top tier team represents NA so i would say 100T and SEN/NV

#37

Joey2448

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C9 3-2 100T

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hiyo

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aged like milk 3head

#38

TheBookThief

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C9 3-1 Envy

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Big_Floppa

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Sen v nv

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wexleu

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C9 vs SEN

#44

arnav

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I think this one will be SEN vs C9 with C9 beating NV/V1 (I think NV, but V1 has been hot) in the LBF. Crazy how C9 have turned it around. Glad they're doing well!

And for score probably SEN 3-1/3-2 maybe 3-0 but C9 has been hot.

#45

beb0p

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Envy 3-0 C9

#46

FireII

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i hope we get nv vs c9
this will be 3:2 c9 if we get it

if we get sen vs c9 3-1 sen
if we get sen vs nv 3-2 sen

#47

Shush

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C9 vs NV C9 wins 3-1
I hope c9 does well in iceland. They're on their honeymoon period and it's probably not gonna last till iceland. Hope they figure something out to represent NA well ^^ NV on the other hand should do good. FNS has loads of experience and has represented NA multiple times in international LANs.

#51

Shush

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What am I getting down voted for, c9 honeymoon period? Lol

#59

Swiftmal12

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Not having SEN

#48

greedeetv

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What I want... C9 vs V1. What I think... SEN vs C9.

#50

Shail

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if version 1 qualifies for Iceland Sentinels doesnt...i am gonna be so pissed.

#52

sarahjames

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now at this point just imagine these two teams are SEN and C9... and the question is will C9 let SEN get TenZ on loan for LAN?? what you guys think

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notTenz

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It is confirmed that tenz will represent sentinels at iceland too

#79

HLTVtoxic

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sen gets tenz till iceland, jack already said that

#54

mAko

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sen and c9 for sureeeee

#55

BanKen313

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I hope Sen VS C9 again
Cause C9 have been doing good lately, it will be wasted

#56

itsmedavidjones

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SEN vs C9

#58

ErenJaeger

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SEN vs C9 getting boring
I wanna see Sen vs NV

#60

plas

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c9 need to get their revenge at some point tho

#57

DonRobs

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C9 played very well against Sentinels they should beat NV or V1

#61

Ullyr

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this is SEN vs C9 pretty sure.

#62

Dylxn

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would be cool to see the new V1 roster make it to iceland, sen 3-1 if it’s C9, 3-0 if it’s V1

#63

raka_gg

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Wooooohoooo

Can't wait to watch 5 maps of teams saving strats and just running around

#69

pewpew

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doubt they still have strats to save. Both teams have given their all during their previous matches. So, it doesn't make sense to not give their all again for an extra 20k, maybe with less pressure for sure.

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SHotgun6969

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I think this should be an easy win for Sentinels but really disappointed to see 100T and C9B knocked out so for now, I am looking forward to Sentinels and Version 1 compete in Reykjavik.

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DonRobs

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Hot take: C9 Blue will be 10 times better in Stage 3 compared to now. More time to practice with Floppy, get more familiar with Viper, Xeppa also playing in Challengers 1 instead of Poiz. As the team have said multiple times, it's only up from here

#65

HaSanity

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Does winning give you seeding or is it just money? So basically this match doesn’t matter?

#66

ranker11

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Winners get seeded in group A (most probably group A gets to ban/pick maps first in semis)

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Xaster15

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how do u know?

#67

pewpew

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ihsazal

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SEN deserves it more than any team

#72

Xaster15

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yeah they deserve to win but who knows who's gonna win this last match

#71

not5kin

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sen gonna int so they avoid leaking strats and will lower bracket run to victory anyway, v1 wins somehow, i am actually bronze so permission to call this a bronze take granted

#73

Xaster15

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yeah they deserve to win but who knows who's gonna win this last match

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GetsystheGr8

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Let's goo

#75

Icysoda57

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Hope V1 takes this series, gotta go for the underdog team.

#76

ac130

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if either of these teams troll to save strats im gonna be so disappointed

#77

plas

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they will

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Shush

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Actually if u take a look at sen final record, they rarely troll even if it doesn't matter. They try to make a point. Last finals C9 trolled but I doubt vanity would. So maybe we get a decent match not a high quality one but fun : )

#85

Insyte

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SEN wont be in hard focus mode like back when they were down against T1 in challengers 2 trying to qualify or any of the matches before this cause there's not as much on the line, but they definitely wont be trolling

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plas

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well yeah thats what i meant, obviously not trolling but not trying as hard

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Heavon

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Fnatic - TL did troll last bo5 and u expect NA teams will not? Especially a team with dapr? LuL

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PandaPrince

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wellllllll

#87

viper699mw

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I'd not mind if this BO5 is a troll game, not because teams want to save strats or anything. This is a good moment to try some agent combos which you can't in intense games. Personally, I'd like to see some Yorus and some more Vipers.

#88

FordTom

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I agree, but I don't know what planet you've been living on if you still think viper is an agent you can't play in intense games lmao

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whatspoppin

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viper is a fucking must in this meta lmfao

#92

deww

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na has no strat. they just molly somewhere with lineups

#89

DonRobs

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Sentinels 3-0 stomp incoming

#93

vergo

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I am so happy for V1 to make it to Iceland. Sad that TSM is fell but I still have my boys from V1. Good luck to Sentinels as well!

#94

antonak1s

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MY PREDICTION IS 2-3 FOR V1 :)

#95

Origin

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Actually making a prediction -_-
Coming back after all the matches and replying to all the wrong predictions ( ͡ᵔ ‿ ͡ᵔ)

#96

Shush

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Ikr

#97

raka_gg

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if V1 cared they would win this 3-1, since they don't give a fuck SEN wins 3-1

#98

DonRobs

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Another bad take from you??

#99

vens

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I want verison1 to win because they are based in Minnesota lol

#100

PG_newt

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Dignitas vs Spacestation Gaming
EZ for DIG 3-0

#101

gradualhorizon

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I predict that SEN or V1 will win this match, something tells me.

#103

crobatman

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Thank you for your wisdom, oh wise one

#102

Shush

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3-1 v1. Sen about to get dominated.

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SunnyD

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LOL

#105

Tonyboston

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Sentinel 3-0 V1

can't say anything.

#106

teohz

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wtf why odds had raised so suddenly

#107

cryyBAE

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Let's see V1 true potential

#121

TinglyPiano

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would be stupid of them to go all out on a match with no consequences. If they have any brain they would save their true stuff in Iceland, not in a game where it doesnt matter

#108

NAValornatPog

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lmaoo these guys are such trolls

#110

ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8

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Name checks out

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Heavon

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1st round already trolling - as expected

#111

ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8

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SicK's preaim is out of this world tbh

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drabrval

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fr sick in the running for the best player in na

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Swiftmal12

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SicK is a monster

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Aznab1e

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sure he is

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plas

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SEN is just better. simple

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Snev

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Bind is V1's worst map and they had everyone on new agents....

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plas

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okay? SEN is still better in other maps

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DonRobs

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Isn't Bind like Sentinels worst map too? Lmao

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xaviOnce

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let's go Sentinels

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kyLeria_

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Did you see penny's peek there when it was real important clutch moment? Spike planted and you peek even before hearing a defuse .. This is the biggest problem of NA.

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Aznab1e

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i think penny just want to caught sicK off guard

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kyLeria_

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as always man

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From being down one map down 3-9 at half in lower bracket of the 2nd closed qualifier against T1 to this........
I mean even if you are a SEN hater you have to be glad that they will represent us in Iceland. Their mental is untouchable.

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drabrval

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and in most of their series' on the way to the final they lost a map like 13-1 or 13-0

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8

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Also if you are a SEN fan, you better be thanking Riot for blessing challengers 2 with double elimination.

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capita1

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Its like G2 league of legends with losers bracket, ty riot

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Sogou

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correct me If i'm wrong but It was T1 not ABX didn't it? they got 1 map lead against ABX but against T1 they down 1 map and lose so bad in split first half

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STRAWHAT

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it was indeed T1 thanks for correction !

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Kibitz

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another boring finals tf, why it always going 3 0 geez

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Ullyr

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because SEN just rekts every NA team when it matters. Its really sad that how it is.

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DonRobs

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Because Sentinels are simply much better than every other NA teams

#133

ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8

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I'm watching Shroud's restream and they're talking about AR gaming for bidets where the objective is to clean shit from other people's asses like it's aimlab. Is this normal?

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capita1

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I really like the costreams because people can just chill and say stupid shit, there are the hype costreams and the chill ones

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beb0p

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yeah it’s way more entertaining imo

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hilo0829

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would not have made it here with sinatraa

atleast we got 1 team that can do well in iceland
no hope for V1 lul

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plas

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how do you know they wouldnt have? you literally dont know that

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hilo0829

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shut up

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ImMisterSentinel

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They were better with sinatraa though...

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ranker11

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B...but zombs can't frag