Tuyz & Cauanzin

As a person who doesn't have a horse in this race, this is what I thought of the 2 new LOUD players and how they compare to the old 2 (My opinion doesn't matter at all btw, I'm an Immortal Ranked player. But I just wanted to say what's on my mind):

While Tuyz and Cauanzin are a downgrade from Sacy and pANcada (As of right now), Cauzanzin is crazy talented and his aim is on the same level or arguably even better than Sacy (I think his aim is better). But sadly, Aim isn't everything in VALORANT and on most categories, Sacy has him beat.

If Sacy was 100, Cauanzin would be 93 (Very good signs for Cauanzin, he is very young)

Tuyz on the other hand is no where close to pANcada in my opinion. I wholeheartedly believe that pANcada is the best controller Brazil is going to produce in this game. That guy is not human. Could a miracle happen and Tuyz achieves crazy growth? Possible.

If pANcada was 100, tuyz is 85.

Again, my thought don't really matter in the grand scheme of things so don't take this to heart lol.

pANcada is the best controller in the world

So sorry to hear that or happy for you tho
I'm not reading all that

1mBor3d [#2]

pANcada is the best controller in the world

Flair checks out

We still have the 2 best players in the world and the best IGL

ASPAS
LESS
SAADHAK

-Supernova The King of Valorant

I have a tought that PaNcada isn't as good as you guys think he is, yes he is absolutely insane but not so far than TuyZ, Mako, Marved(Prime) and etc.

supernova [#5]

We still have the 2 best players in the world and the best IGL

ASPAS
LESS
SAADHAK

-Supernova The King of Valorant

LOUD are looking really good. Saadhak aim and mechanics have gotten even better than last year. Aspas still a beast. Less is also still crazy good on his agents.

ofc tuyz isnt as good as pancada yet its his first "masters" LAN tourney and he can only become better, pretty sure people will say the same when they compare mazino to melser after his first matches.

perfect.

supernova [#5]

We still have the 2 best players in the world and the best IGL

ASPAS
LESS
SAADHAK

-Supernova The King of Valorant

Asspas is so overrated. Not even top 3 in his role bro. He is an improvement for many teams but to call him even a top 10 player in the world is too far.

Tuyz has a good game today. I think he reaches pancada level by the middle of the year.

gamr [#10]

Asspas is so overrated. Not even top 3 in his role bro. He is an improvement for many teams but to call him even a top 10 player in the world is too far.

That's a crazy take

BigTiddyMilf [#12]

That's a crazy take

Not really

Mca [#6]

I have a tought that PaNcada isn't as good as you guys think he is, yes he is absolutely insane but not so far than TuyZ, Mako, Marved(Prime) and etc.

assistiu o champion ano passado não amigo? tem twitter tbm não mca? existe o meme do "por que o pancada não erra tiro" por uma razão

Mca [#6]

I have a tought that PaNcada isn't as good as you guys think he is, yes he is absolutely insane but not so far than TuyZ, Mako, Marved(Prime) and etc.

bro automatically put tuyz in conversation with the worlds best controllers after 2 bo3s

Simplesmente Less, o Punitivo

BielzinBalaTensa [#14]

assistiu o champion ano passado não amigo? tem twitter tbm não mca? existe o meme do "por que o pancada não erra tiro" por uma razão

Ele é emocionado pra caralho, somente isso

Tuyz is playing controller for 3 months now, it's too early, he was a duelist player. The room for improvement is insane.

gamr [#10]

Asspas is so overrated. Not even top 3 in his role bro. He is an improvement for many teams but to call him even a top 10 player in the world is too far.

A big part of LOUD's high placements last year were without a doubt because of how consistent less was last year. He was putting numbers up as good as aspas while playing sentinels & viper

Its okay friend. Tuyz is still new to this role, he can get close, he can be on par, can even surpass pancada, but only time will tell, for now it is enough that he is incredibly good

Thanks for the wisdom BigTiddyMilf

firefirefirefire [#17]

Ele é emocionado pra caralho, somente isso

papo reto, isso q ele falou é quase um sacrilégio

1mBor3d [#2]

pANcada is the best controller in the world

Mako

BielzinBalaTensa [#22]

papo reto, isso q ele falou é quase um sacrilégio

Os caras acham que PaNcada é um deus, ele nunca deu diff absurdo em nenhum controlador tier 1 mundial e nunca foi intocável.

Marved já ganhou dele, e ele nem é tão sinistramente incrivel pra fazer isso.

Pessoal acha que a diferença do Pancada pro resto é a do Nuuh pro Aspas, tão muito enganados.

Sim, PaNcada joga clutch pra caralho, e o RgLm não joga? Pessoal muito emocionado de hype.

Vou provar isso que tô falando:
https://www.vlr.gg/166335/sentinels-vs-tsm-ludwig-x-tarik-invitational-main-event-lbf
https://www.vlr.gg/166332/the-guard-vs-sentinels-ludwig-x-tarik-invitational-main-event-ubf
https://www.vlr.gg/130624/optic-gaming-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2022-group-stage-winners-b
https://www.vlr.gg/1647/terror-net-vs-black-dragons-rivals-contenders-gs-group-a
https://www.vlr.gg/22714/furia-vs-ex-b4-copa-rakin-season-1-lbf

Até o Khalil já ganhou dele.

love_trial [#15]

bro automatically put tuyz in conversation with the worlds best controllers after 2 bo3s

i mean, it is inevitable bc he's subbing in for the best controller in the world on an org that won a world championship

u guys are judging 17 year olds... give them 6 months and u will have the answer if they were the right choice

BielzinBalaTensa [#25]

i mean, it is inevitable bc he's subbing in for the best controller in the world on an org that won a world championship

thats a lotta assumptions my friend, should wait for results before making big claims

Mca [#24]

Os caras acham que PaNcada é um deus, ele nunca deu diff absurdo em nenhum controlador tier 1 mundial e nunca foi intocável.

Marved já ganhou dele, e ele nem é tão sinistramente incrivel pra fazer isso.

Pessoal acha que a diferença do Pancada pro resto é a do Nuuh pro Aspas, tão muito enganados.

Sim, PaNcada joga clutch pra caralho, e o RgLm não joga? Pessoal muito emocionado de hype.

Vou provar isso que tô falando:
https://www.vlr.gg/166335/sentinels-vs-tsm-ludwig-x-tarik-invitational-main-event-lbf
https://www.vlr.gg/166332/the-guard-vs-sentinels-ludwig-x-tarik-invitational-main-event-ubf
https://www.vlr.gg/130624/optic-gaming-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2022-group-stage-winners-b
https://www.vlr.gg/1647/terror-net-vs-black-dragons-rivals-contenders-gs-group-a
https://www.vlr.gg/22714/furia-vs-ex-b4-copa-rakin-season-1-lbf

Até o Khalil já ganhou dele.

Incrivel que tu foi procurar jogos lá da PQP pra tentar comprovar o teu ponto, lembrando que dois desses são da Sentinels com nem 1 semana de treino direito e outro de sei lá quanto tempo atrás.

O que faz o Pancada ter valor não é numérico e sim em Partida, geralmente nas situações que você mais necessita dele, ele é o jogador que mais se destaca nos momentos de crise e não necessariamente apenas em Clutchs, mas em Kills importantes.

0vertaker [#26]

u guys are judging 17 year olds... give them 6 months and u will have the answer if they were the right choice

he used to play as duelist
2 months as main controller, just need time as you said

ChrisGG [#23]

Mako

MaKo is the 2nd best.

I was disappointed in loud today.

It’s clear this team isn’t as good as the old team.

That could all change in 6 months, but right now they are a weaker team.

This last match was kinda painful to watch tbh. Neither team looked good.

Mca [#24]

Os caras acham que PaNcada é um deus, ele nunca deu diff absurdo em nenhum controlador tier 1 mundial e nunca foi intocável.

Marved já ganhou dele, e ele nem é tão sinistramente incrivel pra fazer isso.

Pessoal acha que a diferença do Pancada pro resto é a do Nuuh pro Aspas, tão muito enganados.

Sim, PaNcada joga clutch pra caralho, e o RgLm não joga? Pessoal muito emocionado de hype.

Vou provar isso que tô falando:
https://www.vlr.gg/166335/sentinels-vs-tsm-ludwig-x-tarik-invitational-main-event-lbf
https://www.vlr.gg/166332/the-guard-vs-sentinels-ludwig-x-tarik-invitational-main-event-ubf
https://www.vlr.gg/130624/optic-gaming-vs-loud-valorant-champions-2022-group-stage-winners-b
https://www.vlr.gg/1647/terror-net-vs-black-dragons-rivals-contenders-gs-group-a
https://www.vlr.gg/22714/furia-vs-ex-b4-copa-rakin-season-1-lbf

Até o Khalil já ganhou dele.

Pancada campeão mundial irmão... que porra é RgLm e khalil kkkkkkkkk

LouBag [#31]

I was disappointed in loud today.

It’s clear this team isn’t as good as the old team.

That could all change in 6 months, but right now they are a weaker team.

This last match was kinda painful to watch tbh. Neither team looked good.

• LouBag, the silver

Raveny [#28]

Incrivel que tu foi procurar jogos lá da PQP pra tentar comprovar o teu ponto, lembrando que dois desses são da Sentinels com nem 1 semana de treino direito e outro de sei lá quanto tempo atrás.

O que faz o Pancada ter valor não é numérico e sim em Partida, geralmente nas situações que você mais necessita dele, ele é o jogador que mais se destaca nos momentos de crise e não necessariamente apenas em Clutchs, mas em Kills importantes.

Pancada tava na terror antes de entrar pra Loud, vocês tem desconhecimento dos players que tem no Brasil e de onde eles vem.

Me diz, o Pancada ganharia de um FooX no auge? Ganharia de um Dgzin? De um Goken? Jogadores que tiveram a mesma base que o Pancada mas não tiveram a sorte de entrar num time sinistro igual a Loud.

Você não sabe quem são esses players, a gente tem diversos pancadas no tier 2 que vocês nunca ouviram falar.

Me diz se você sonharia em ter o PaNcada num time antes da Loud? Claro que não, ele não jogava numa VK, numa GL, nem aparecia no VCT porque não conseguia classificar, pessoal acha que o Pancada já era um deus nessa época, sendo que sim ele era muito bom mas não tinha esse hype absurdo que botam hoje nele.

Tentativas [#33]

• LouBag, the silver

I’m plat, but that doesn’t matter.

I had loud beating NRG before the tournament started.

After today I feel like I made a mistake. This version of Loud isn’t as good.

LouBag [#35]

I’m plat, but that doesn’t matter.

I had loud beating NRG before the tournament started.

After today I feel like I made a mistake. This version of Loud isn’t as good.

I agree they're not as good as the previous roster, but that roster had 1+ year to develop.

Mca [#34]

Pancada tava na terror antes de entrar pra Loud, vocês tem desconhecimento dos players que tem no Brasil e de onde eles vem.

Me diz, o Pancada ganharia de um FooX no auge? Ganharia de um Dgzin? De um Goken? Jogadores que tiveram a mesma base que o Pancada mas não tiveram a sorte de entrar num time sinistro igual a Loud.

Você não sabe quem são esses players, a gente tem diversos pancadas no tier 2 que vocês nunca ouviram falar.

Me diz se você sonharia em ter o PaNcada num time antes da Loud? Claro que não, ele não jogava numa VK, numa GL, nem aparecia no VCT porque não conseguia classificar, pessoal acha que o Pancada já era um deus nessa época, sendo que sim ele era muito bom mas não tinha esse hype absurdo que botam hoje nele.

cara na humilda, sai da thread q tu ta passando vergonha lek.....

love_trial [#27]

thats a lotta assumptions my friend, should wait for results before making big claims

you're not wrong, but i also dont think i'm wrong on that. as i said, he's subbing in for the bitw and world champion, so people inevitably will compare him to lil pancas

Shuaaa [#19]

A big part of LOUD's high placements last year were without a doubt because of how consistent less was last year. He was putting numbers up as good as aspas while playing sentinels & viper

thats what im saying. it was Less, pancada, and Sacy. aspas is the most replaceable player on the team

vollizie [#30]

MaKo is the 2nd best.

Nah mako slightly better

BielzinBalaTensa [#37]

cara na humilda, sai da thread q tu ta passando vergonha lek.....

Animais, o tempo vai calar a boca de vocês.

Vou botar uns players do "tier 2" que vocês não conhecem e que assim como o PaNcada, se estivessem num time tier 1 vocês seriam apaixonados sobre.

https://www.vlr.gg/player/661/foox
https://www.vlr.gg/161062/unemployed-vs-tropicaos-challengers-league-brazil-split-1-uro16
https://www.youtube.com/@GokenUreshi
https://www.vlr.gg/player/1564/rhz

Mca [#41]

Animais, o tempo vai calar a boca de vocês.

Vou botar uns players do "tier 2" que vocês não conhecem e que assim como o PaNcada, se estivessem num time tier 1 vocês seriam apaixonados sobre.

https://www.vlr.gg/player/661/foox
https://www.vlr.gg/161062/unemployed-vs-tropicaos-challengers-league-brazil-split-1-uro16
https://www.youtube.com/@GokenUreshi
https://www.vlr.gg/player/1564/rhz

Se abrir qualquer jogo do rhz na VK ele tá sempre brigando com o murizz pela última posição da tabela.

Tentativas [#36]

I agree they're not as good as the previous roster, but that roster had 1+ year to develop.

Yes, that is why he said it could all change in 6 months

1mBor3d [#2]

pANcada is the best controller in the world

now you guys ssy that, but when he played in LOUD...

Mca [#41]

Animais, o tempo vai calar a boca de vocês.

Vou botar uns players do "tier 2" que vocês não conhecem e que assim como o PaNcada, se estivessem num time tier 1 vocês seriam apaixonados sobre.

https://www.vlr.gg/player/661/foox
https://www.vlr.gg/161062/unemployed-vs-tropicaos-challengers-league-brazil-split-1-uro16
https://www.youtube.com/@GokenUreshi
https://www.vlr.gg/player/1564/rhz

if you deleted the vlr it would be a favor to humanity, I've seen you write so much shit I'm almost committing a hate crime, watch valorant with your ass

Ernno [#42]

Se abrir qualquer jogo do rhz na VK ele tá sempre brigando com o murizz pela última posição da tabela.

Mentiroso de mal caráter, foi refutado com uma única olhada:

https://www.vlr.gg/99080/keyd-stars-vs-tbk-esports-champions-tour-brazil-stage-2-challengers-1-group-stage-w4

Vai dizer que o Heat é um lixo?

RHZ chegou no Valorant sem jogar anos igual o PaNcada, foi colocado em uma posição de carregador de piano no time pra fazer trabalho sujo e ter newba igual você sujando o nome dele.

Além disso só falou dele por que? FooX e Goken sendo campeões mundiais só mostra o quão porra nenhuma tu sabe sobre Valorant.

Vou terminar a discussão aqui, o tempo vai provar todos vocês.

as a controller i think tuyZ can definetly be better, in the role perspective
but i still think pANcada is a better clutch player (and 1v1 god)

tuyZ is going to be world no1 harbor
but will be a little bit above average astra, brim
omen, probably top tier lvl

gamr [#39]

thats what im saying. it was Less, pancada, and Sacy. aspas is the most replaceable player on the team

Dude, nobody plays valorant like aspas. The team doesn't play for him. He is their entry fragger and is constantly top fragging, he is very slick and hard to kill. He doesn't have yay's numbers or clutches, but he is not always the last to survive and doesn't have 4 people playing for him to shine. That's why he is so good.

.

Mca [#46]

Mentiroso de mal caráter, foi refutado com uma única olhada:

https://www.vlr.gg/99080/keyd-stars-vs-tbk-esports-champions-tour-brazil-stage-2-challengers-1-group-stage-w4

Vai dizer que o Heat é um lixo?

RHZ chegou no Valorant sem jogar anos igual o PaNcada, foi colocado em uma posição de carregador de piano no time pra fazer trabalho sujo e ter newba igual você sujando o nome dele.

Além disso só falou dele por que? FooX e Goken sendo campeões mundiais só mostra o quão porra nenhuma tu sabe sobre Valorant.

Vou terminar a discussão aqui, o tempo vai provar todos vocês.

Ele tá nas últimas posições nesse jogo também kkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

masterX [#40]

Nah mako slightly better

You can definitely make an argument for both imo. If you think MaKo is better, you are valid. If you think pANcada is better, you are also valid.

It's between those 2. The only reason I lean towards pANcada just a little more is because he won Champs alongside LOUD while MaKo felt short. But we're comparing the players themselves and not the teams, so I can see why people would pick MaKo.

0vertaker [#26]

u guys are judging 17 year olds... give them 6 months and u will have the answer if they were the right choice

AGREE