all the teams feel underwhelming
i understand that they're all inexperienced as teams
but at this point São Paulo's just going to be mainly EU vs DRX
maybe with PRX and some south american countries getting a decent run
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gablin [#2]Do not forget about 100T
the fact that 100t is the best team in the region considering they've only replaced will with cryo is concerning.
yeah, cryo makes the team a lot better, but 100t wasn't that great to begin with
babysasuke [#10]mainly EU vs DRX
Please explain this lol
EU looks like shit too, Parla took Navi (best team in Europe) to 5 maps
T2 NA is just going to be the strongest circuit in the world, unlucky
T2 NA the strongest ?? until they beat established teams like c9 or 100 i will agree they are just beating people with less time to prep that theirs.
jawn [#12]NA on average is on a higher level than EU lmao
EG brings the NA average down below EU singlehandedly
Hynix [#9]the fact that 100t is the best team in the region considering they've only replaced will with cryo is concerning.
yeah, cryo makes the team a lot better, but 100t wasn't that great to begin with
wdym? They were pretty good at the Red Bull event, and I know that liquid had two subs but like they still didn't lose a series.
lorenzopajaroFC [#15]How is EU any better? Two of your franchised teams lost to a random Turkish team and your crown jewel in navi went to 5 maps against them
Not to mention heretics got absolutely bodied by C9 and 100T
Bro tier 1 franchise teams actually in shambles ATM LOL
lorenzopajaroFC [#15]How is EU any better? Two of your franchised teams lost to a random Turkish team and your crown jewel in navi went to 5 maps against them
Not to mention heretics got absolutely bodied by C9 and 100T
NA did not beat any top eu teams they were always favorites to win the event.
queueK [#16]EG brings the NA average down below EU singlehandedly
EG ain't losing to fucking bbl and koi
Danny [#17]EU fans are so mad that NA has a talent pool deeper than 2 teams
A T1 team losing 0-2 to a T2 team indicates bad roster building and clout based scouting not a deep talent pool
lorenzopajaroFC [#15]How is EU any better? Two of your franchised teams lost to a random Turkish team and your crown jewel in navi went to 5 maps against them
Not to mention heretics got absolutely bodied by C9 and 100T
"random Turkish team" arguably most stacked Turkish team that are one of the favorites for Ascensions. Like I don't get how going 1-2 against them or winning 3-2 is worse than going 0-2 vs TSM.
but yes most these franchise teams are fresh so they will have close games vs tier 2.
jawn [#22]EG ain't losing to fucking bbl and koi
What are you talking about? KOI has Sheydos, Trexx, Koldamenta, starxo and Wolfen that is stronger than EG on paper.
maximumszn [#19]Too early to judge, pretty embarrassing tournament for SEN and T1 but it is still offseason and too early to draw conclusions
Actually sanest SEN fan take.
jawn [#22]EG ain't losing to fucking bbl and koi
EG losing to everyone when their best player is BCJ lmfao
Hynix [#9]the fact that 100t is the best team in the region considering they've only replaced will with cryo is concerning.
yeah, cryo makes the team a lot better, but 100t wasn't that great to begin with
Cryo is a massive upgrade over will tbf
my_fav_team_is_M3C [#31]Eu has top 3 that is stronger than NA top teams, but overall Americas 10 are stronger than Eu 10 for sure.
i agree but in the end the only thing that matter are the top teams nobody cares about the bottom half.
lilcheese [#5]almost lost to liquid with 2 stand-ins
u are ommiting the fact that both subs are t1 EMEA players.... 100t vs franchised EU
(at redbull)
4-0 series
8-2 Maps
Psion [#34]u are ommiting the fact that both subs are t1 EMEA players.... 100t vs franchised EU
(at redbull)
4-0 series
8-2 Maps
What stupid logic is that? Let's replace IGL and arguably best sentinel player in the world with mediocre players who are now playing in tier 2 oh yeah Meddo's team didn't even qualify for tier 2.
queueK [#24]A T1 team losing 0-2 to a T2 team indicates bad roster building and clout based scouting not a deep talent pool
Yes man Tier 1 teams having a 100% winrate against tier 2 scenes definitely is not a sign of a weak talent pool…
brahianv [#33]i agree but in the end the only thing that matter are the top teams nobody cares about the bottom half.
Agreed but keep in mind NA is the most wealth region along with Japan I guess. They will always get better and reshuffle rosters for winnings. Considering NA tier 2 league is the most competitive and has 12 teams, I think NA will always be a banger region.
Psion [#34]u are ommiting the fact that both subs are t1 EMEA players.... 100t vs franchised EU
(at redbull)
4-0 series
8-2 Maps
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Psion [#34]u are ommiting the fact that both subs are t1 EMEA players.... 100t vs franchised EU
(at redbull)
4-0 series
8-2 Maps
They didn't have their IGL and Meddo is not even in tier 2 rn kekw, he is obviously good but bruh
jawn [#22]EG ain't losing to fucking bbl and koi
BBL I agree but koi's team is cracked out of their minds tbh
babysasuke [#10]mainly EU vs DRX
Please explain this lol
EU looks like shit too, Parla took Navi (best team in Europe) to 5 maps
T2 NA is just going to be the strongest circuit in the world, unlucky
Copium
patuj [#25]"random Turkish team" arguably most stacked Turkish team that are one of the favorites for Ascensions. Like I don't get how going 1-2 against them or winning 3-2 is worse than going 0-2 vs TSM.
but yes most these franchise teams are fresh so they will have close games vs tier 2.
i don't think anyone rated parla highly until they went against the franchised teams but i could be wrong
thatpower [#54]i don't think anyone rated parla highly until they went against the franchised teams but i could be wrong
Even Sliggy said that in his opinion Parla is the best Turkish team when he did watchparty before the games
evvve [#56]what makes u think emea is strong?
yeah on paper all of our teams have gotten like 10x better when it comes to individual skill but that doesnt mean it will translate ingame, will prob we underwhelming at first too.
only sane European?
queueK [#6]I don't think EU will do much better either , most rosters are still new projects. It's natural, they'll get better with time
Navi will win everything tbh, and fnatic and liquid are too good to not beat most franchised teams
lorenzopajaroFC [#15]How is EU any better? Two of your franchised teams lost to a random Turkish team and your crown jewel in navi went to 5 maps against them
Not to mention heretics got absolutely bodied by C9 and 100T
don't forget that C9 lost to fokus
patuj [#55]Even Sliggy said that in his opinion Parla is the best Turkish team when he did watchparty before the games
I’m sorry but that really doesn’t mean much
lorenzopajaroFC [#61]I’m sorry but that really doesn’t mean much
How? He literally knows whats happening behind the scenes in scrims etc. And who are good and who aren't. Even if he hasn't been a coach for some months.
Psion [#34]u are ommiting the fact that both subs are t1 EMEA players.... 100t vs franchised EU
(at redbull)
4-0 series
8-2 Maps
Nice copium, NA is down bad
SENneedstacpausetowin [#59]Navi will win everything tbh, and fnatic and liquid are too good to not beat most franchised teams
thing is eu teams if you just look at what players they got they look all pretty good. we rly need to wait and see how all teams perform in sau paulo
babysasuke [#10]mainly EU vs DRX
Please explain this lol
EU looks like shit too, Parla took Navi (best team in Europe) to 5 maps
T2 NA is just going to be the strongest circuit in the world, unlucky
do we rly know if teams show up there A game right now? atm all the team newly formed and still work on it so. i guess we should wait for sao paulo to see what will happen. A lot of ppl think loud is gonna sweep all away
patuj [#63]How? He literally knows whats happening behind the scenes in scrims etc. And who are good and who aren't. Even if he hasn't been a coach for some months.
I meant that “being the best Turkish team” doesn’t mean much
lorenzopajaroFC [#68]I meant that “being the best Turkish team” doesn’t mean much
nah you were right overall
if sl0ggy is such a prophet, why does no one want him lmfao. Maybe something to do with the dogshit TL roster he was running before he got dropped
EU coping zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
lorenzopajaroFC [#68]I meant that “being the best Turkish team” doesn’t mean much
Why? Turkey is the most competitive VCL league and Parla is arguably their strongest team or at least was at the time. And again how does this change anything? I asked you how losing or having close game vs Parla is any worse than losing to TSM 0-2 when both are teams of similar level?
patuj [#27]What are you talking about? KOI has Sheydos, Trexx, Koldamenta, starxo and Wolfen that is stronger than EG on paper.
KEKW
jawn [#73]koi wouldn't beat turtle squad, mfs dogshit
So NRG is that weak? I guess Americas will just be dominated by BR and LATAM then.
patuj [#74]So NRG is that weak? I guess Americas will just be dominated by BR and LATAM then.
this is getting funnier and funnier
jawn [#75]this is getting funnier and funnier
You lack the ability of reading? EG isn't same as NRG, and TH isn't same as KOI.
patuj [#76]You lack the ability of reading? EG isn't same as NRG, and TH isn't same as KOI.
keep trying to hang on the specifics, my point is already proven
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