Former cheaters in the Val Pro Scene

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I just found out Babybay used to cheat a few years ago on CSGO under the alias “Flex.” Since then he played in both OWL and VCT. I was wondering if there were any other former cheaters who are in the Pro scene now, since I wasn’t invested in eSports back when CS was huge.

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Jamppi but he's redeemed alr

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Source?

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EternalXera

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Wasnt he vac banned a while ago?

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Ryuji

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https://youtu.be/NHGlrNMJNp8

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warm

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That was a false VAC ban

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meramoer

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he claimed it wasn't him but it was his account so not false

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Apparently it was an account he owned, but somebody else was using it and they cheated on the account

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kapteN

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thats what every vac banned person says

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HokkasTimo

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Even if it's not true, who cares he was like 12

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kapteN

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Yeah I absolutely agree. Valve really screwed him over. Just saying that excuse has been done to death and is almost never true

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GTNgreatestofalltime

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He was unbanned from csgo. Means he was not cheating

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B0omsl4ng

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no dummy
it was because of the new rmr rules

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kapteN

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he was unbanned because he never cheated during official matches and it was over 5 years ago. Those were the new rules.

I mean the kid was like 13, you can forgive him if he did have cheats back then. I personally don't mind jamppi, I think he's a great and super likeable guy. I do think he cheated when he was 13 but I think valve treated him way too harshly. Their loss.

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Here's the backstory if you don't know it: Jamppi was rumoured to join OG with aleksib, but since he has a VAC-ban from his old account that was given in 2013, he is not allowed to participate in Valve tournaments (minors & majors).

What makes this situation odd is the fact that apparently no one is sure if it's in fact Jamppi who cheated, or someone else after the account was sold.

I get that cheating is illegal, but if it happened 6 years ago, wouldn't that be enough of a gap? Forsaken got banned for 5 years, and his cheating was clear as day. And Jamppi was 12. He wasn't even thinking about becoming a pro player, if he even cheated himself. So what's the problem?

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meramoer

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valve had a 0 tolerance for cheaters, also selling accounts is against steam tos so valve wont take that into account

he is unbanned now tho

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Ryuji

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The whole "once a cheater always a cheater" thing is so unbelievably stupid.They love to forget that people like S1mple cheated in the past. Not even just account selling, actual cheating. People can change. And as if none of us never did any stupid shit when we were 12.

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meramoer

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oh yeah i agree, i was vac banned when i was like 12, its been like 5-6 years for me

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Not sure but juicy was using something in early valo days as I heard

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dexter000111

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f0rsaken 🤪

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Vellor

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the whole SIngapore owns the US

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soonwookong

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wrong guy

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Dybala21

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Why are you not being honest rn?

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SamBR

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Aspas acused of cheating and banned manually.

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BoDork

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if I speak...

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simza

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tell us who signs who cars instead

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BoDork

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If we don't find another org before June 2023 we are gonna sign with Tricked

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simza

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you're serious or am I being tricked here

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Nah I am serious, Tricked has been lowballing us and trying to sign us for extremely cheap, but seeing as my players need actual good salaries to be able to survive in the current inflation in Denmark we have decided to take their offer as a backup seeing as we would be kicked off Polaris if we do not sign with an org before June 2023. (Rito rules zzz)

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simza

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oh ok makes sense

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ItsMeDio

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they tricked you

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I would rather let Tricked in as our replacement than most organizations, they would ensure that Danish talent have a place to prove themselves and develope. While they give shit pay, they still do develope talent extremely well.

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Vellor

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i heard from tarik that lowballing is very common as the org will put a large buyout amount on the player right?

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BoDork

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yep, just another esports moment

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Vellor

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yup, like football

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acels2

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CONFIRMED : JAMMPI AND SAYF
ALLEGED : SUBROZA , LEAF AND ARDIIS

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USCK

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Wasn’t Jammpi unbanned from CSGO recently he didn’t cheat himself someone cheated on one of his accounts

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acels2

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Jamppi was previously banned from Valve-sponsored events due to a VAC ban issued in 2015, but has been unbanned following Counter-Strike's "New RMR Eligibility Guidelines" blog post.

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Qwertyy

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leaf was just so fucking good so people thought he was cheating

He would never

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acels2

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dickridahhhhhhhhhh

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soonwookong

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nah it was just the ppl salty cus chaos beat their team hard

forgot the team but twas brazilian

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DaDoar

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Ardiis never cheater, but he was a well known matchifxer

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hiyo

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subroza never cheated he just was blackballed from the scene because everyone accused him of cheating

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acels2

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alleged

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emil

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Disguised XXiF former Fortnite Cheater, only banned 2 weeks for teaming to qualify for Fortnite World Cup. People Boo'd him whenever he showed up on screen and cheer when he got eliminated.

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https://www.polygon.com/platform/amp/2019/7/27/8933177/xxif-cheating-fortnite-world-cup-booed-cheered-duos

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Piter

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Never knew if it was the same guy

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CowokjarangmAndy

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Yup it's him, in the #26 article it's says damion "XXIF" cook, which is indeed XXIF real name

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Let him COOK!

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To be fair, I'd say babybays tenure within top level OWL and to a lesser extent VCT do redeem the CS Vac ban from 2015 is a very long time ago is kind of irrelevant from a legitimacy assessment since its kind of impossible to play at a tier 1 level under as much scrutiny as early OWL without an extensive background/ integrity competitive check.

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cocoluna

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Yeah he was also so young and dumb

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B0omsl4ng

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sayf was vac banned lul tier 3 player

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Whole Valorant scene consists of match fixers, washed up bots and cheaters.
Still can't believe it's 2023 and people like / fanboy Marved. This kid was matchfixing like crazy on CS:GO and very blatantly cheating. Horrible movement, 0 crosshair placement and yet constantly hitting headshots, knowing where everyone is out of no info, etc... Just review any demo from him from CS:GO and you'll understand Esport is a joke.

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Whole Valorant scene consists of match fixers, washed up bots and cheaters.
Still can't believe it's 2023 and people like / fanboy Marved. This kid was matchfixing like crazy on CS:GO and very blatantly cheating. Horrible movement, 0 crosshair placement and yet constantly hitting headshots, knowing where everyone is out of no info, etc... Just review any demo from him from CS:GO and you'll understand Esport is a joke.