sz 2-1 oq

sz 2-1 oq

Got off the phone with John riot.
2-0 oq bet the house 🏡

GO SCARZ

oq 2-0
not even close since they beat revamped cr

not a single chance for OQ
SZ 2-0

Some of you are delusional. OQ has some of the best unsigned Korean pros. Wix is insane, hate is really good. None of them are random ranked players.This is such an ez 2-0 for OQ and its not even close.

322 match korea it's bettors

unknown_trash [#7]

Some of you are delusional. OQ has some of the best unsigned Korean pros. Wix is insane, hate is really good. None of them are random ranked players.This is such an ez 2-0 for OQ and its not even close.

Maru Gaming lives on

drx zeka pog

1ucid [#10]

drx zeka pog

zeka such a good jungler guy is roaming in another game

gamesoccc [#8]

322 match korea it's bettors

u idoit?no bookie added this match

Flyjin [#11]

zeka such a good jungler guy is roaming in another game

ye, i love zeka.

Seulgi [#1]

sz 2-1 oq

ㅉㅉ

Seulgi [#1]

sz 2-1 oq

ㅋ oqa 2-1

unknown_trash [#7]

Some of you are delusional. OQ has some of the best unsigned Korean pros. Wix is insane, hate is really good. None of them are random ranked players.This is such an ez 2-0 for OQ and its not even close.

sz are actually quite disciplined and smart, just getting exploited

Derpp [#5]

oq 2-0
not even close since they beat revamped cr

revamped CR < SZ

Ez

gg

zeka quite good, jemking very good

SZ making a good comeback but unfortunately was exploited by OQA's contact-heavy attacking playstyle, and whether it was nerves or something else, expended utility very quickly and easily, giving a ton of value to OQA's defaults. OQA definitely playing smart too, had some good reads and good rounds. This reminds me of an OpTic-esque playstyle by incorporating contact and occasional risky plays vs an exploitable and easily telegraphed DRX style team.

i expect to see a lower-bracket run

archetype [#17]

revamped CR < SZ

nah this is straight CAP

scarz aka BBE has never won anything EVER and they farmed shit teams all the way here

CR has never ever lost to scarz/BBE and made top 4 multiple times, I dont think BBE ever made playoffs once or further than top 8

https://www.vlr.gg/106169/crazy-raccoon-vs-blue-bees-esp-champions-tour-japan-stage-2-challengers-playoffs-lbr2

the entire CR team diffs scarz in talent

Flyjin [#20]

nah this is straight CAP

scarz aka BBE has never won anything EVER and they farmed shit teams all the way here

CR has never ever lost to scarz/BBE and made top 4 multiple times, I dont think BBE ever made playoffs once or further than top 8

https://www.vlr.gg/106169/crazy-raccoon-vs-blue-bees-esp-champions-tour-japan-stage-2-challengers-playoffs-lbr2

the entire CR team diffs scarz in talent

revamped CR is way worse than old CR and you don't know what I know about SZ as well.

BB also made playoffs. Don't forget that both Russian players on BB were playing on crazy high packet loss and 150 ping every game.

archetype [#21]

revamped CR is way worse than old CR and you don't know what I know about SZ as well.

BB also made playoffs. Don't forget that both Russian players on BB were playing on crazy high packet loss and 150 ping every game.

sorry, not buying it

Ill believe SZ once they actually beat a good team or make a deep playoffs run with the same roster thats been running it down for months now

Flyjin [#22]

sorry, not buying it

Ill believe SZ once they actually beat a good team or make a deep playoffs run with the same roster thats been running it down for months now

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Jemkin and Kr1stal were playing on 150 ping + packet loss every game before moving to SZ.

As for beating good teams....if only you knew.

archetype [#23]

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Jemkin and Kr1stal were playing on 150 ping + packet loss every game before moving to SZ.

As for beating good teams....if only you knew.

As for beating good teams....if only you knew.

they just lost to a FA korean team in a bo3 u gotta stop the cap right now

Flyjin [#24]

As for beating good teams....if only you knew.

they just lost to a FA korean team in a bo3 u gotta stop the cap right now

All you see is the results. They weren't bad during the game and were pretty disciplined. OQA are a good team as well. You say F/A but:

Hate: ex-TNL, ex-Damwon
CoSa: ex-DRX Academy, ex-TNL (QS)
Jeong-Hi: ex-Maru, ex-Damwon
NakJi: ex-Maru
WIX: ex-Maru

You also don't know what teams they have beaten behind the scenes. I guarantee you you'd be surprised if you heard of them. I assume Seulgi knows what I'm talking about - there's a reason he said SZ 2-1, a scoreline I was predicting too.

JP < KR
jk love you guys

archetype [#25]

All you see is the results. They weren't bad during the game and were pretty disciplined. OQA are a good team as well. You say F/A but:

Hate: ex-TNL, ex-Damwon
CoSa: ex-DRX Academy, ex-TNL (QS)
Jeong-Hi: ex-Maru, ex-Damwon
NakJi: ex-Maru
WIX: ex-Maru

You also don't know what teams they have beaten behind the scenes. I guarantee you you'd be surprised if you heard of them. I assume Seulgi knows what I'm talking about - there's a reason he said SZ 2-1, a scoreline I was predicting too.

Actually I watched the game, and both teams played pretty bad from what I saw

archetype [#23]

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Jemkin and Kr1stal were playing on 150 ping + packet loss every game before moving to SZ.

As for beating good teams....if only you knew.

You can clearly see during the stream that they were not playing at 150 ping instead were playing at 60-70.With players from QQA playing at 40

0_AwayFromKindness [#28]

You can clearly see during the stream that they were not playing at 150 ping instead were playing at 60-70.With players from QQA playing at 40

before moving to SZ.
Don't forget that both Russian players on BB

bro please learn to read

Flyjin [#27]

Actually I watched the game, and both teams played pretty bad from what I saw

???? what

Both teams were playing decently fine, yeah there were more mistakes made but this is Tier 2 Valorant not fucking Masters, and even in Tier 1 play we still see shit like XSET vs Leviatan. Both teams had good coordination and although their tactical decision making wasn't DRX/FPX/OpTic-level their strategic play was good and they definitely knew how to play the comps they were running. I would say Scarz were nervous with how easily their util was coaxed out from them, though.

They played fine.

archetype [#25]

All you see is the results. They weren't bad during the game and were pretty disciplined. OQA are a good team as well. You say F/A but:

Hate: ex-TNL, ex-Damwon
CoSa: ex-DRX Academy, ex-TNL (QS)
Jeong-Hi: ex-Maru, ex-Damwon
NakJi: ex-Maru
WIX: ex-Maru

You also don't know what teams they have beaten behind the scenes. I guarantee you you'd be surprised if you heard of them. I assume Seulgi knows what I'm talking about - there's a reason he said SZ 2-1, a scoreline I was predicting too.

they beat EDG in scrims

sometimes we need to forget scrims results that happened earlier, come back down to earth and realize that they just lost to OQA, and never did anything in officials

unless ur tryna say OQA can punch in the weight of teams like DRX and are a force to reckon with

I didnt predict a OQA win, but now that they did win I am 100000% not gonna make statements like SZ > CR until the two teams go at it in a bo3

Flyjin [#31]

they beat EDG in scrims

sometimes we need to forget scrims results that happened earlier, come back down to earth and realize that they just lost to OQA, and never did anything in officials

unless ur tryna say OQA can punch in the weight of teams like DRX and are a force to reckon with

I didnt predict a OQA win, but now that they did win I am 100000% not gonna make statements like SZ > CR until the two teams go at it in a bo3

They beat more than just EDG lol.

never did anything in officials

PRX and ZETA never did anything in officials until M1 2022, what's your point lol? Just because they did not have results does not mean they won't have results in future. ESL isn't even a high-stakes tournament.

ur tryna say OQA can punch in the weight of teams like DRX and are a force to reckon with

:eyes: Clueless he lacks the critical information kekw, maybe not for OQA, but I never said OQA is as good as DRX. I just said they're a good team.

that they did win I am 100000% not gonna make statements like SZ > CR until the two teams go at it in a bo3

CR lost Rion, Astell, and Munchkin lol. Their best players are Meiy and Popogachi. Meiy is the only really good player. Makiba is hot trash.

archetype [#32]

They beat more than just EDG lol.

never did anything in officials

PRX and ZETA never did anything in officials until M1 2022, what's your point lol? Just because they did not have results does not mean they won't have results in future. ESL isn't even a high-stakes tournament.

ur tryna say OQA can punch in the weight of teams like DRX and are a force to reckon with

:eyes: Clueless he lacks the critical information kekw, maybe not for OQA, but I never said OQA is as good as DRX. I just said they're a good team.

that they did win I am 100000% not gonna make statements like SZ > CR until the two teams go at it in a bo3

CR lost Rion, Astell, and Munchkin lol. Their best players are Meiy and Popogachi. Meiy is the only really good player. Makiba is hot trash.

:eyes: Clueless he lacks the critical information kekw, maybe not for OQA, but I never said OQA is as good as DRX. I just said they're a good team.

You are performing extreme mental gymnastics with your logic because you are trying to mix scrim results with what just transpired before your eyes.

We just saw SZ lose to OQA. No, SZ didn't play good Valorant. No OQA isn't a good team. No, Scarz isn't better than OQA. You call Makiba trash but are you forgetting the very roster we are comparing it to?

Only time can settle this debate because our perceptions of these two teams are wildly different. I think Scarz are hot trash and you think they're the best ascension team in Japan.

PRX and ZETA never did anything in officials until M1 2022, what's your point lol? Just because they did not have results does not mean they won't have results in future. ESL isn't even a high-stakes tournament.

PRX and ZETA won their respective region, the fact that I have to point this out is worrying.

Flyjin [#33]

:eyes: Clueless he lacks the critical information kekw, maybe not for OQA, but I never said OQA is as good as DRX. I just said they're a good team.

You are performing extreme mental gymnastics with your logic because you are trying to mix scrim results with what just transpired before your eyes.

We just saw SZ lose to OQA. No, SZ didn't play good Valorant. No OQA isn't a good team. No, Scarz isn't better than OQA. You call Makiba trash but are you forgetting the very roster we are comparing it to?

Only time can settle this debate because our perceptions of these two teams are wildly different. I think Scarz are hot trash and you think they're the best ascension team in Japan.

PRX and ZETA never did anything in officials until M1 2022, what's your point lol? Just because they did not have results does not mean they won't have results in future. ESL isn't even a high-stakes tournament.

PRX and ZETA won their respective region, the fact that I have to point this out is worrying.

How is it mental gymnastics to say OQA are a good team?

I think we'll have to see. It's a win for me either way. If Scarz are a bad team that's fine, likely the best JP ascension team will be mixed with Koreans. If Scarz are a good team, then I'd be right.

Idk about you but I believe in my vision of the game and although I haven't watched much or played it in a while I think it's still good enough to indicate whether a team is good or not.
Scarz have yet to play vs CR, and you only see results. I think Scarz can beat CR

Anyone Immortal+ can see Scarz has hints of good teamplay and coordination, and OQA has good reads and play their comp well.

archetype [#34]

How is it mental gymnastics to say OQA are a good team?

I think we'll have to see. It's a win for me either way. If Scarz are a bad team that's fine, likely the best JP ascension team will be mixed with Koreans. If Scarz are a good team, then I'd be right.

Idk about you but I believe in my vision of the game and although I haven't watched much or played it in a while I think it's still good enough to indicate whether a team is good or not.
Scarz have yet to play vs CR, and you only see results. I think Scarz can beat CR

Anyone Immortal+ can see Scarz has hints of good teamplay and coordination, and OQA has good reads and play their comp well.

Idk about you but I believe in my vision of the game and although I haven't watched much or played it in a while I think it's still good enough to indicate whether a team is good or not.

Okay. So you think OQA played better Valorant than OQ? You think OQ or OQA can hold a candle with DK, NTH, FL, FAV, IGZIST?

Rhetorical question, I just wanted to make you realize the absurdity saying losing to OQA was good Valorant.

The CR vs OQA game wasn't even broadcasted, I've watched every CR game since Munchkin's departure and they look disciplined. From what point in time are you saying CR looked like trash?

Flyjin [#35]

Idk about you but I believe in my vision of the game and although I haven't watched much or played it in a while I think it's still good enough to indicate whether a team is good or not.

Okay. So you think OQA played better Valorant than OQ? You think OQ or OQA can hold a candle with DK, NTH, FL, FAV, IGZIST?

Rhetorical question, I just wanted to make you realize the absurdity saying losing to OQA was good Valorant.

The CR vs OQA game wasn't even broadcasted, I've watched every CR game since Munchkin's departure and they look disciplined. From what point in time are you saying CR looked like trash?

Now THAT is pure cap.

The CR vs OQA game wasn't even broadcasted, I've watched every CR game since Munchkin's departure and they look disciplined.

https://youtu.be/KQgO4o9zFFM

Derpp [#26]

JP < KR
jk love you guys

always has been

archetype [#36]

Now THAT is pure cap.

The CR vs OQA game wasn't even broadcasted, I've watched every CR game since Munchkin's departure and they look disciplined.

https://youtu.be/KQgO4o9zFFM

damn I didnt even see that stream, my fault

Im not gonna watch the vod because I dont have time, but you think CR played like shit here?

Flyjin [#38]

damn I didnt even see that stream, my fault

Im not gonna watch the vod because I dont have time, but you think CR played like shit here?

lmfao what do you think buddy

convo ends here, our opinions too different