that SEN needed to consider their options for PR purposes, cause everytime SEN would make a tweet people would say ratzham and stuff, I feel so bad for him, he had so many moving variables and a teams success isn't reliant on the IGL solely, idk why people hate him, many other players have ego but are not hated nearly as much
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People don't like him because not only is he bad at taking criticism, he insults those who criticize him and make it a big deal and escalates.
He probably wouldn't be that hated if he just ignored the hate rather than continue to fuel it by almost leaning in the opposite direction making things worse for himself.
you are taking zombs word over shahz lmfaooo shahz is way more reliable and trust worthy than zombs ever will be, he was the same one who said shahz is a drama king or smthng and then went onto call out marved at the peak of his career lmaoooo, zombs starts most of the drama in val and acts like he did nothing so dont ever trust that guy
dude this isn't the same don't bring two completely different situations and compare them? LOL
what kind of criticism did fns and ardis get about doing their job as an igl or a chamber????
that shit is completely irrelevant, we're talking about a man that literally said " other pros watch anime in their free time and i stream it's the same"
mf was clueless about his own region and kept giving the shittiest excuses in the world
jusr be happy for him that he's going to be doing the things he love and move on, shahz staying as an igl in that team would never have worked
move on
"mf was clueless about his own region and kept giving the shittiest excuses in the world" yes indeed, who are you again? you know the ins and outs of every pro NA player than shahz does huh? stop acting like shahz made all the fucking mistakes, he is human too. It is most definitely true that pros do shit in their free time like have you seen babybay? bro goes to every single party in NA no joke and about the ignoring criticism part, imagine ur having a bad day and u stream JUST to see that your chat is talking shit constantly and asking u constantly about why you are dogshit (even tho more than half of them are hardstuck silver), he ignored it for as long as he could and then eventually everyone breaks and shahz just broke earlier than most would that's all there is to it, vlr hates him and kids from vlr show that hate on twitter and some even go to his stream JUST to hate, you guys really thing just because he did a few questionable things he deserves this much hate? and no matter how much u tried to discredit him he won a masters and nobody can take that away from him, fns was there at that time, dephh was and so was all the top igls but shahz was better than all of them and he still can be. Nobody knows anything about what his life is and it could be really bad for all we know so just stop hating on someone for the sake of hating, he might've made some mistakes but it doesnt mean u hate him
what are you on about? babybay? do you even understand that we're talking about optic, xset, any team that managed to make internationals A SUCCESSFUL EXAMPLE
asuna, cryo two duellists decreased or even stopped streaming completely bcz they hated the money? NO bcz they priorities their pro career over streaming
a thing shahz won't do, then why is he still on a team? the man doesn't want to put in the hours do you think he makes excuses to get hate?
no, he makes excuses so when the team solves whatever "problems" behind the scene he would still be able to stream the same amount, that's why he doesn't go" you guys don't know what's happening behind the scenes, if we could practice more i would stream less you guys" but instead he goes" do you want me to leave all this money?" .......
the guy doesn't have it in him anymore, whether the team have problems or not he should've left the igling position in 2022 to someone else.
"you guys don't know what's happening behind the scenes, if we could practice more i would stream less you guys" he legit said this lmfaooo also maybe u should understand that he isnt getting enough money from being a pro to take care of his family? and thats why he streams and also he enjoys so idk what ur on about and he doesnt have it in him anymore but my point still stand nobody knows everything that happened behind the scenes and like shahz said he doesnt want to blame his tmmates or org for some mistakes and most of the stuff that happened was just unlucky, they couldnt prac coz of tenz and sick but nobody blames them right? its all shahz fault that he got handed 2 new players and had to change EVERYTHING and then because of tenz being sick again on lcq and manyyy more issues that led to the team doing badly that only the org and the players know but even then nobody hates on tenz or sick instead all the hate gets redirected to shahz who is trying his best to balance streaming which he loves and competing which he also loves
what is wrong with you? its crazy how people wake up everyday and think its perfectly fine to dick ride on someone they have 0 contact with, someone that they haven't had a conversation with, someone that doesn't even know they exist. SHITIS CRAZY
its not even hating lil bro its just facts. SEN won 3 games against real teams.. thats failure
Tier 2 at best IGL, happy to see SEN refresh the roster with new faces. At the end of the day, ShahZ’s best IGLing isn’t in this meta, he struggles to currently read the game. I dislike how in that whole video he was basically saying “well it’s not my fault” when you’re an IGL, you are the leader, it’s your job as an IGL to lead the team to win, so yeah, it kinda is his fault. I understand outside factors play a big part and he can only do so much, but as an IGL everything gets put back on you because you’re the leader.
Ofcourse they do. No one is saying FNS is immune, it’s just when you don’t have success and your IGL is doing the same thing over and over and people are pointing out what you’re doing wrong yet you keep doing it makes you think “I don’t think he has any idea what he’s doing” Goodluck to ShahZ dude if he wishes to continue but if not I’m sure content for him will still be as good, after all his streams and stuff have always done well and he’s told us many times that he makes more money streaming than he does Competing.
The amount of hate and vitriol against him is uncalled for and should never be tolerated by the community. But Shaz can't escape some of the constructive criticisms against him. Extra long hours of streaming, His choices with roster changes and coach appointment decision, complaints about not playing meta comps, bad shot calling etc are valid criticisms imo and you can't wipe them out under the rug of few bad apples saying dumb shit. Shahz has been on SEN for a long time, most Esports orgs are not that faithful , I mean look at 100T it's a cut throat business. I don't think if they are cutting him it would solely be a PR move.
Sometimes you gotta make cuts to see success, ShahZ should be thankful SEN even kept him on as long as they did after all the losses after Iceland. He’s had a decent career ShahZ. Winning the first International LAN event, and all the shit in between. I don’t hate the guy, I just don’t think he’s as good as many dick ride him to be and his time as a Tier 1 IGL is over.
i don't feel bad for him, i really wish he would just left SEN to start growing before bcz with him being the igl THIS TEAM WAS GOING NO WHERE
listen man he made it clear that he proprieties his streaming careen the same if not over his pro career, don't feel bad for him this is the best for him.
he can go on in his content creation career and SEN can bring in an igl that actually do his job and make them better win-win
also for the hate i genuinely think he brings hate upon himself, he's not a sacred being that can't be criticized and a lot of people made some serious points about why he was not doing his job but his excuses and answers were something out of this world just completely shameful and it showed how much of an ego he had.
i still remember dapr being brainwashed by him and actually saying "bootcamps doesn't necessarily make the team better" and it was clear that they reached this conclusion with the team (shahz)
he needed to go and he's not out of a job he makes a shit ton of money so don't feel bad for him
for the last part or excuse that there were stuff happening in the background and he took all the blame, this is something i feel like he got done wrong in, SEN not having a coach (according to him) was the staff and management of sen's fault so yeah in that regard i definitely think he got unnecessary hate just piling up.
SEN hate boner already exist since 1st Reykjavik as far as I know. Mostly from EU kids at that time.
They're just becoming the scapegoat of internet people.
Their toxic fan and their arrogant behavior (which should be fine since they're the best at that time, people just dumb and only finding excuse) is what make the hate boner grow.
And with their recent performance, their fans grow weaker and become a meme for the internet people.
In the end the one who criticize is only 5y/o keyboard warrior, If they can deliver a good performance in the game then they should be fine.
If it's really for PR purposes, sinatraa would not be on the org long long time ago LOL. What a omega Copium.
"everyone hate bootcamp" "bootcamp doesn't necessarily make a team better"
And on Sentinels franchising documentary TenZ and Dapr showed how much they love bootcamp.
One more, if you guys see the performance coaching part on Sentinels documentary on how Shahz and Rawkus have a mindset "I know better than anyone on the team" meanwhile the coach said "you need to put aside all of your knowledge to be able to get coached". That's the main problem of Sentinels.
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