Stfu
I usually hear this from emea, who will say that they deserve more slots cause their better, but if emea is so much better why do they require 4 slots? surely 3 would be enough to win.
People always whine and moan about how some regions suck and are boring to watch, but how can they improve if they dont attend lans. Its actually so dumb, more teams = better competition. Pls stfu about this whole "x region deserves more/less slots" it doesnt fucking matter.
hekzy [#5]We need 4 slots so we can dominate playoffs like last time ;)
we are already being nice and give u 3 slots because ur so bad do u really need that big of a advantage of having 4
sheahhhh [#6]we are already being nice and give u 3 slots because ur so bad do u really need that big of a advantage of having 4
Your baits are terrible these days
BBL_Wtcn [#2]Look at last year kekw all 4 of our teams in Champs finished their groups in first place so a 4th spot would mean we would be sending more teams that are actually good
If you really think na is a one team region than na sending more teams would be good for emea.
#1 we would embarress ourselves and you could make fun of us
#2 more teams = larger bracket = more emea games
#3 Na teams would slowly get better and the games would become more enjoyable to watch
Subreezy [#3]common sushi W, it just seems like these guys wanna see more EMEA teams play and then complain when there’s EMEA vs. EMEA matchups even though they’re 1/4th of the competition
True lol, rematches from domestic tournaments are alway frustrating and their more likely to happen if their are less teams
Subreezy [#3]common sushi W, it just seems like these guys wanna see more EMEA teams play and then complain when there’s EMEA vs. EMEA matchups even though they’re 1/4th of the competition
You really are a shameless NA shill. Nothing else to expect from you people. It’s like you’re all the same except for a select few.
Subreezy [#3]common sushi W, it just seems like these guys wanna see more EMEA teams play and then complain when there’s EMEA vs. EMEA matchups even though they’re 1/4th of the competition
That's not the slots fault. That's riots terrible, horrid, atrocious seeding work.
"I usually hear this from emea, who will say that they deserve more slots cause their better, but if emea is so much better why do they require 4 slots? surely 3 would be enough to win."
not fair for the teams that are 4th or something in emea, they can do a lot of damage in champs but have to sit at home just for furia to go 0-2 and not win a map
Sushi_ [#9]If you really think na is a one team region than na sending more teams would be good for emea.
#1 we would embarress ourselves and you could make fun of us
#2 more teams = larger bracket = more emea games
#3 Na teams would slowly get better and the games would become more enjoyable to watch
But Emea having more slots would mean more teams would get a chance to prove themselves to be top tier teams as Emea is extremely contested right now so sending 3 in Emea is nothing when in Cs majors they send 8 EU teams
I think there should be more slots for every region anyways
X_ae_A_12 [#11]You really are a shameless NA shill. Nothing else to expect from you people. It’s like you’re all the same except for a select few.
bro i’m a yoru main and i love paper rex because of it. i don’t give a fuck about NA besides the individual players
Shut the fuck up. Are you really going against a team, who had to play with 60 ping throughout the whole tournament AND were free agents at the time?? I know it’s crazy to fathom but m3c would body everyone at lan and you know it. If it wasn’t for the 60 ping difference. But riot continues to nerf emea and cis.
Subreezy [#17]bro i’m a yoru main and i love paper rex because of it. i don’t give a fuck about NA besides the individual players
Never gonna get the truth from you people. And I don’t expect to.
Carthage_Er_Pola [#21]Because riot actually cares about global competition instead of making it an EU snoozefest like in CS
EU snooze fest? Tell me all FPX games were boring just tell me that but you can’t because you know it’s not true.
X_ae_A_12 [#24]EU snooze fest? Tell me all FPX games were boring just tell me that but you can’t because you know it’s not true.
I said Snoozefest like in CS
Except Furia, there is literally no other tier 1 team outside of EU in CS, making the competition really boring. There is no more entertaining regional trashtalk.
X_ae_A_12 [#18]Shut the fuck up. Are you really going against a team, who had to play with 60 ping throughout the whole tournament AND were free agents at the time?? I know it’s crazy to fathom but m3c would body everyone at lan and you know it. If it wasn’t for the 60 ping difference. But riot continues to nerf emea and cis.
he didn't mention M3C once. you are high as fuck
Carthage_Er_Pola [#26]I said Snoozefest like in CS
Except Furia, there is literally no other tier 1 team outside of EU in CS, making the competition really boring. There is no more entertaining regional trashtalk.
I bet you it’s the same in league kekw
BrotherMan [#27]Aspas diffs scream
Aspas is a dog. Scream is a lion, king of the jungle, and he always has been.
Sharo [#29]It's not about more chances at winning, but more competition. L take
I think you can build more international competition in other regions by giving them a chance to play some of the best teams.
tinted [#28]he didn't mention M3C once. you are high as fuck
He is implicitly stating that if he made this thread. Also I like how you completely ignored m3c’s situation and deliberate refuse to tackle the elephant in the room.
KyLZi [#34]I think you can build more international competition in other regions by giving them a chance to play some of the best teams.
If you didn’t know, cis is a minor region in VALORANT. Where are thier slots?
X_ae_A_12 [#36]If you didn’t know, cis is a minor region in VALORANT. Where are thier slots?
I agree actually. CIS and TR could be their own regions with their own VCT events.
X_ae_A_12 [#18]Shut the fuck up. Are you really going against a team, who had to play with 60 ping throughout the whole tournament AND were free agents at the time?? I know it’s crazy to fathom but m3c would body everyone at lan and you know it. If it wasn’t for the 60 ping difference. But riot continues to nerf emea and cis.
Sounds good mhm, send m3, tbk, onslayers, and the loser of tgrd vs 100t, the more teams the better
Subreezy [#3]common sushi W, it just seems like these guys wanna see more EMEA teams play and then complain when there’s EMEA vs. EMEA matchups even though they’re 1/4th of the competition
It's international competition idk why emea complains about 3 teams . Legit anymore and it be so sleeper when they get match up.
X_ae_A_12 [#30]I bet you it’s the same in league kekw
There's a solid rivalry between CN and KR plus EU teams are also decent
BBL_Wtcn [#16]But Emea having more slots would mean more teams would get a chance to prove themselves to be top tier teams as Emea is extremely contested right now so sending 3 in Emea is nothing when in Cs majors they send 8 EU teams
I think there should be more slots for every region anyways
i mean cs is litteraly a one region game lol
sentinelmain377 [#43]SUSHI, that is not what its about
some teams from emea that dont qual are just better than other regions and therefore they deserve the prize pool money and clout
not some teams that are worse in skill lol
Clout especially is so important for EMEA since they don’t stream or, have “personalities” (not in a rude way, in a streaming personality way) + no one watches eu streams anyway
sentinelmain377 [#43]SUSHI, that is not what its about
some teams from emea that dont qual are just better than other regions and therefore they deserve the prize pool money and clout
not some teams that are worse in skill lol
Im aware that m3c is better than alot of teams at champions. But my point is that champions is a great opportunity for teams to improve significantly by scrimming against the best teams from whatever region its being hosted in and playing against top international competition. By giving furia an opportunity to go to champs you not only give furia the chance to get better and perhaps become better than m3c, but you also expose the teams they play to their playstyle and setups, allowing their to be a positive feedback loop of improvement
just_rate [#44]EMEA people don't get that their teams are boring as fuck and the only player with a personality is Boaster and is the only one to get more than 1k people watching his stream.
I wont be surprised if the americas league gets more spots in international events next year.
Now that you have access to ange1, do you think he’s entertaining?
X_ae_A_12 [#48]Now that you have access to ange1, do you think he’s entertaining?
meh, hes got some good takes, not as entertaining as fns tho
Sushi_ [#51]meh, hes got some good takes, not as entertaining as fns tho
Yea cos youre from NA Ofc you would think that.
Sushi_ [#51]meh, hes got some good takes, not as entertaining as fns tho
EXACTLY. You feel something, even if it’s an average feeling. The other emea teams don’t even get to express themselves because they don’t have the accessibility. You get my point?
HyenaLaugh [#50]AND
13 -3 KEK. Shitty map pool from loud is always expected. Also where was aspas vs KRU and optic?
X_ae_A_12 [#56]156 adr vs 155 EZ.
Vs BR super team btw.
Also 9-5 fkfd vs 9-14
thanks for obeying my request keep crying and coping.
Sushi_ [#47]Im aware that m3c is better than alot of teams at champions. But my point is that champions is a great opportunity for teams to improve significantly by scrimming against the best teams from whatever region its being hosted in and playing against top international competition. By giving furia an opportunity to go to champs you not only give furia the chance to get better and perhaps become better than m3c, but you also expose the teams they play to their playstyle and setups, allowing their to be a positive feedback loop of improvement
Ok. steal m3c's paycheck to make sa a better region. idk what m3c did to deserve it tho. i dont wanna keep discussing
Altroxz [#20]The name of the tournment is VCT Champions, not VCT EMEA.
Exactly. It says "Champions" not "dogshit teams"
Sushi_ [#9]If you really think na is a one team region than na sending more teams would be good for emea.
#1 we would embarress ourselves and you could make fun of us
#2 more teams = larger bracket = more emea games
#3 Na teams would slowly get better and the games would become more enjoyable to watch
firstly riot will fuck the seeding up again and put 3 emea teams on the same side of the bracket(playoffs) so that we eliminate ourselves and fuck the competetion. we have been making fun of na since berlin last year, first sentinels fell off then guard choked and now xset, honestly it has gotten so boring , coz na being bad is no longer funny but just a fact. na teams wont get better until next year when they would have to finally meet the br and latam teams so they can see the difference of how fast an SA team gets better and how slow and lazy a na team is
next year we are getting 3 leagues
1) americas: NA, BRAZIL,LATAM
2)ASIA: JAPAN, KOREA, CHINA, SEA, SOUTH ASIA, AUSTRALIA
3) EMEA: EUROPE ,MIDDLE EAST, AFRICA,CIS
each of these leagues will get 10 slots each(as of the leaks).
now considering every leagues is treated equally, for a tournament like masters next year, we'll get equal representation from all the regions, which means 4 teams from America, asia and emea all qualify to make a tournament of 12 teams.
now what is happening in this champions:
1) NA + LATAM+BRAZIL =7 SLOTS
2) SEA+CHINA+KOREA+JP=6 SLOTS
3) EMEA=3 SLOTS
NOW OPEN YOUR EYES AND TELL ME THIS SLOT DISTRIBUTION IS NOT FUCKED UP, I CAN TAKE NOT GIVING 6 SLOTS TO EMEA, BUT WE ATLEAST DESERVE 4 WHEN WE HAVE CLEARLY PROVEN THAT WE ARE THE STRONGEST LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR TOO.
symbols07 [#71]next year we are getting 3 leagues
1) americas: NA, BRAZIL,LATAM
2)ASIA: JAPAN, KOREA, CHINA, SEA, SOUTH ASIA, AUSTRALIA
3) EMEA: EUROPE ,MIDDLE EAST, AFRICA,CIS
each of these leagues will get 10 slots each(as of the leaks).
now considering every leagues is treated equally, for a tournament like masters next year, we'll get equal representation from all the regions, which means 4 teams from America, asia and emea all qualify to make a tournament of 12 teams.
now what is happening in this champions:
1) NA + LATAM+BRAZIL =7 SLOTS
2) SEA+CHINA+KOREA+JP=6 SLOTS
3) EMEA=3 SLOTS
NOW OPEN YOUR EYES AND TELL ME THIS SLOT DISTRIBUTION IS NOT FUCKED UP, I CAN TAKE NOT GIVING 6 SLOTS TO EMEA, BUT WE ATLEAST DESERVE 4 WHEN WE HAVE CLEARLY PROVEN THAT WE ARE THE STRONGEST LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR TOO.
AND STOP GIVING SHITTY EXCUSES THAT WE(NA) IS A WEAK REGION AND WE'LL GIVE YOU FREE WINS, WHAT IS THAT SUPPOSED TO MEAN?? AND MORE EMEA TEAMS DO MATTER, IF WE GET 4 TEAMS WE'LL ENSURE THAT WE GET ANOTHER ALL EMEA TOP 4, WE NEED TO HUMBLE TEAMS LIKE OPTIC LOUD ETC WHO GOT AWAY WITH HIGH FINISHES JUST BECAUSE WE DIDNT HAVE EMEA TEAMS THAT TIME. ITS SO FKN EASY TO INFALTE YOUR STANDINGS IN A COMPETITION WITHOUT ACTUAL CMPETITION
Mortadelo [#14]Ofc 3 is enough it has always been enough look at last Champions 3/4 in semis. But that doesn’t mean it’s fair
EXACTLY
just_rate [#44]EMEA people don't get that their teams are boring as fuck and the only player with a personality is Boaster and is the only one to get more than 1k people watching his stream.
I wont be surprised if the americas league gets more spots in international events next year.
sorry to break it you but mixwell is 10k streamer and scream is also somewhere around or a bit less. nats streams with 5k. and getting more viewers doesnt mean they are entertaining. they just stream a lot less. who would you tune into, a hiko who streams daily and you know you can watch that guy live at 6 pm every day or wait for a boaster who has a very nice personality and is a really good streamer but only comes live once a week? its not about that they are not entertaining, its just that they dont stream, they are athelets not streamers.
no_noise_979 [#76]Werent you 1 of the ones complaining that emea didnt deserve 3 slots for masters before FPX went on to win? Hypocrite af
huh
Altroxz [#20]The name of the tournment is VCT Champions, not VCT EMEA.
But who are the VCT Champions?
Yes, that's right, EMEA.
Might as well be VCT EMEA with how when EMEA teams aren't shafted (See also, VCT Masters 1 Reykjavik where FPX were subbed out for Liquid, FNATIC had to play with 2 subs and G2 underperformed while also being like, top 6 in EMEA regionally.) we always win or make top 2. (See also, VCT Masters 2 Copenhagen Winners, VCT Champions Berlin 2021 3/4s of Semifinalists being EMEA teams, VCT Masters 3 Berlin where 2/4ths of Semifinalists were EMEA, and a tournament we also won and VCT Masters 2 Reykjavik where we made Grand Finals.)
Meanwhile Bronzil, Lnited Ltates of Lmerica and Always Airport Always Poor's cabinet of accolades do not come close to EU's, also all of these regions I mentioned are 1 team regions. (Bronzil LOUD dominating, Lmerica OpTic dominating, APAC PRX dominating) while the competition in EMEA is always higher. No fair that teams like Guild, M3C and underdogs like BBL have to stay at home while teams like FURIA, XERXIA and XSET get to play at events only to go x-2 in groups and get eliminated.
no_noise_979 [#79]maybe i confuse your name with sashi or smth
maybe, cause i never commented on slots beside asking for masters to be 16 teams and champs 24 teams lol
Sushi_ [#81]maybe, cause i never commented on slots beside asking for masters to be 16 teams and champs 24 teams lol
yes i said I CONFUSE your name with someone else
Sh1rpie [#80]But who are the VCT Champions?
Yes, that's right, EMEA.
Might as well be VCT EMEA with how when EMEA teams aren't shafted (See also, VCT Masters 1 Reykjavik where FPX were subbed out for Liquid, FNATIC had to play with 2 subs and G2 underperformed while also being like, top 6 in EMEA regionally.) we always win or make top 2. (See also, VCT Masters 2 Copenhagen Winners, VCT Champions Berlin 2021 3/4s of Semifinalists being EMEA teams, VCT Masters 3 Berlin where 2/4ths of Semifinalists were EMEA, and a tournament we also won and VCT Masters 2 Reykjavik where we made Grand Finals.)
Meanwhile Bronzil, Lnited Ltates of Lmerica and Always Airport Always Poor's cabinet of accolades do not come close to EU's, also all of these regions I mentioned are 1 team regions. (Bronzil LOUD dominating, Lmerica OpTic dominating, APAC PRX dominating) while the competition in EMEA is always higher. No fair that teams like Guild, M3C and underdogs like BBL have to stay at home while teams like FURIA, XERXIA and XSET get to play at events only to go x-2 in groups and get eliminated.
Why u bringing up Bbl? They would go 0/26 lmao
no_noise_979 [#76]Werent you 1 of the ones complaining that emea didnt deserve 3 slots for masters before FPX went on to win? Hypocrite af
who tf are you talking about
JokesOver [#78]why are people talking about reducing slots of some regions??? That would just kill the scene. Instead of that just push riot into introducing more slots in next lans with emea getting their fair share of slots( I agree that emea should get more slots)
that isnt how a tournament is run. in fifa do you expect them to include 64 teams to give every country a chance no. more teams often lead to a boring tournament
IceFoxx00 [#87]It's basically:
3 Emea
3 NA
2 Brazil
2 Latam
3 APAC
3 East AsiaIdk why ppl are complaining about this, they all have the same amount of spots
brazil + latam has 4 slots. do you know how fucked up that is?? emea gets 3 and they get 4 when the best they have done is 2nd place finish in a tournament where the strongest region wasnt present
symbols07 [#90]brazil + latam has 4 slots. do you know how fucked up that is?? emea gets 3 and they get 4 when the best they have done is 2nd place finish in a tournament where the strongest region wasnt present
It's not fucked up since they are basically 2 regions
The slots are allotted this way to balance the potential of each region equally increasing the potential of a Cinderella run
The international competition is increasing as gaps between regions are decreasing tremendously
How many more reasons do I have to come up with so that ppl understand why it is this way
symbols07 [#69]firstly riot will fuck the seeding up again and put 3 emea teams on the same side of the bracket(playoffs) so that we eliminate ourselves and fuck the competetion. we have been making fun of na since berlin last year, first sentinels fell off then guard choked and now xset, honestly it has gotten so boring , coz na being bad is no longer funny but just a fact. na teams wont get better until next year when they would have to finally meet the br and latam teams so they can see the difference of how fast an SA team gets better and how slow and lazy a na team is
notice how you didn't mention optic
symbols07 [#89]that isnt how a tournament is run. in fifa do you expect them to include 64 teams to give every country a chance no. more teams often lead to a boring tournament
you think 16 slots is viable for champions? I think we need 24 teams with a playin stage at first
IceFoxx00 [#92]
It's not fucked up since they are basically 2 regions
The slots are allotted this way to balance the potential of each region equally increasing the potential of a Cinderella run
The international competition is increasing as gaps between regions are decreasing tremendously
How many more reasons do I have to come up with so that ppl understand why it is this way
Turkey is the same as Brazil yet they get 0 slots.
Riot bias once again
X_ae_A_12 [#12]I swear, bookmark this thread and come back to it after champions, and you will see your misguidance prevailing.
kekw Emea washed
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