These orgs can't surely keep their rosters like this?
ardiis to Liquid? Why not at this point, they desperately needs a Sova
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Cloud9
Fnatic
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G2, TSM, Liquid ROSTER CHANGE
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pampire [#3]#G2needCNED lmao
I don’t think cned would wanna join the shitshow that is G2 until they get their IGL game together
ideekae [#4]I don’t think cned would wanna join the shitshow that is G2 until they get their IGL game together
I think otherwise. G2 won't prefer cNed as long as they have Mixwell. cNed is still a youngster and an organization like G2 is always charming for him ofc. This union will neve happen I guess.
syn505 [#5]Tsm
-Cutler
+Brax / Koler-tailored (coach)
+myth (coach)/s
brax isnt gonna join TSM without AZK
pampire [#3]#G2needCNED lmao
You dont know what G2 need...The G2 firepower is the best EU firepower...but tactically they are really bad compared with another teams. They need a IGL obviously
syn505 [#5]Tsm
-Cutler
+Brax / Koler-tailored (coach)
+myth (coach)/s
Myth would be interesting in the coaching position
syn505 [#5]Tsm
-Cutler
+Brax / Koler-tailored (coach)
+myth (coach)/s
Sorry, but there's no way they would have myth as coach lol
Adri98 [#11]G2 ex6tenz -zeek or G2 lowel -zeek but this is impossible
TL just chosed the worst british players...Moe, Mistic, Boaster, Frei...
I like this tbh..
Adri98 [#10]You dont know what G2 need...The G2 firepower is the best EU firepower...but tactically they are really bad compared with another teams. They need a IGL obviously
" The G2 firepower is the best EU firepower" .........lol !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Adri98 [#10]You dont know what G2 need...The G2 firepower is the best EU firepower...but tactically they are really bad compared with another teams. They need a IGL obviously
"The G2 firepower is the best EU firepower" ? xd
can10combr [#7]I think otherwise. G2 won't prefer cNed as long as they have Mixwell. cNed is still a youngster and an organization like G2 is always charming for him ofc. This union will neve happen I guess.
btw, i said that not because i think that, but because during the dfuse match the whole chat was spamming that (i said it for the meme)
JerryAc [#6]The IGL from NIIP was the best option but they prefered Zeek
thing is nip actually trialled zeek and vak after fs, they just understood that wasn't what they needed unlike g2.
the teams that has disappointed in NA
TSM
Cloud9
T1
Cloud9 and T1 have built their roster totally in a new way so its understandable, probably gonna take time to perfect everything.
and for EU
G2
Team Liquid
Fnatic
Vitality
Giants
OG
Wave
we all know G2 needs an igl
about Liquid, they just brought Jampi so might take time
Fnatic just unfortunate ig
Vitality is totally not doing good enough
Giants benched happy idk y
OG lost big time for some reason, they showed a lot of potential in Redbull home grounds and VCT qualifiers
Wave maybe just needs time
all my personal opinions, I could be drastically wrong, just let me know my mistakes :D
Ryuzaki [#23]the teams that has disappointed in NA
TSM
Cloud9
T1Cloud9 and T1 have built their roster totally in a new way so its understandable, probably gonna take time to perfect everything.
and for EU
G2
Team Liquid
Fnatic
Vitality
Giants
OG
Wavewe all know G2 needs an igl
about Liquid, they just brought Jampi so might take time
Fnatic just unfortunate ig
Vitality is totally not doing good enough
Giants benched happy idk y
OG lost big time for some reason, they showed a lot of potential in Redbull home grounds and VCT qualifiers
Wave maybe just needs timeall my personal opinions, I could be drastically wrong, just let me know my mistakes :D
i thought the t1 roster did pretty well in challengers 3, its clear though that autimatic and curry need more time and skadoodle isn't comfortable in the role
i do also think dazed's style is a bit too static and is easy to read too
jayy [#26]i thought the t1 roster did pretty well in challengers 3, its clear though that autimatic and curry need more time and skadoodle isn't comfortable in the role
i do also think dazed's style is a bit too static and is easy to read too
Honestly, I prefer the old T1 roster. When Dazed was asked in an interview to make his dream team out of any players, banned or unbanned, Dazed replied:
Me (Dazed)
Azk
Swag (Brax)
Ska
and Stewie2k
They did well in 1st strike, Azk was underperforming a bit so they had to let him go.
The current roster has potential and I think as smart Dazed is, he should try a bit harder to make strats. Twitch chat mostly says Dazed is failing because he makes valorant strats as if its CS.
Ryuzaki [#27]Honestly, I prefer the old T1 roster. When Dazed was asked in an interview to make his dream team out of any players, banned or unbanned, Dazed replied:
Me (Dazed)
Azk
Swag (Brax)
Ska
and Stewie2kThey did well in 1st strike, Azk was underperforming a bit so they had to let him go.
The current roster has potential and I think as smart Dazed is, he should try a bit harder to make strats. Twitch chat mostly says Dazed is failing because he makes valorant strats as if its CS.
I agree, sadly from what i recall dazed had a conflict with brax but i would've liked to see the roster stick around longer cause they broke it up when it was on the rise
I agree too, i also think spyder lurks way too much on jett and i would rather see him and ska role swap tbh
jayy [#28]I agree, sadly from what i recall dazed had a conflict with brax but i would've liked to see the roster stick around longer cause they broke it up when it was on the rise
I agree too, i also think spyder lurks way too much on jett and i would rather see him and ska role swap tbh
Yeah I don't understand the fact Spyder playing Jett over Ska, He is cracked but I think he should pick any other duelist and let Ska be Jett and the primary sniper.
JerryAc [#6]The IGL from NIIP was the best option but they prefered Zeek
i think eX6tence is the best options
Ryuzaki [#23]the teams that has disappointed in NA
TSM
Cloud9
T1Cloud9 and T1 have built their roster totally in a new way so its understandable, probably gonna take time to perfect everything.
and for EU
G2
Team Liquid
Fnatic
Vitality
Giants
OG
Wavewe all know G2 needs an igl
about Liquid, they just brought Jampi so might take time
Fnatic just unfortunate ig
Vitality is totally not doing good enough
Giants benched happy idk y
OG lost big time for some reason, they showed a lot of potential in Redbull home grounds and VCT qualifiers
Wave maybe just needs timeall my personal opinions, I could be drastically wrong, just let me know my mistakes :D
i agree
Ryuzaki [#29]Yeah I don't understand the fact Spyder playing Jett over Ska, He is cracked but I think he should pick any other duelist and let Ska be Jett and the primary sniper.
i think that is the best option for T1
Just want to comment here.
There is no need for roster changes when organisations are in it for the long run. Sure, a lot of tier one teams were beaten by talents. But don't forget that these teams all have results to back up their skill. In the future, when top teams have time to develop to opponents that are rather unpredictable, we'll see a lot better results.
With that being said, there's nothing wrong with the roster of Liquid, G2 or Fnatic.
Starting with G2:
They're a top team that had an amazing run in almost every tournament that has ever been held thus far, their potential to achieve greatness is unlimited thanks to the skill of the players.
Liquid:
Sure, benching your IGL and signing a CS player that has barley had any time to adjust to the VALORANT environment is rather questionable. But the way I see it, if you give Jamppi two months to get used to the style and feel of the game and if he really wants to put in the effort Liquid will reign supreme once again.
Fnatic:
They have amazing results against top teams, good tournament finishes and most of all they're PUTTING IN THE WORK.
To summarize, these organisations couldn't give a single crap if the teams qualified or not. From a company prespective, they like to see things long-term. They believe that the players that they've signed have the potential to improve to such an extent that they will infact be a top contendor. And ALL these teams have the potential, it's just up to them to put in the work.
Sayf [#33]Just want to comment here.
There is no need for roster changes when organisations are in it for the long run. Sure, a lot of tier one teams were beaten by talents. But don't forget that these teams all have results to back up their skill. In the future, when top teams have time to develop to opponents that are rather unpredictable, we'll see a lot better results.
With that being said, there's nothing wrong with the roster of Liquid, G2 or Fnatic.
Starting with G2:
They're a top team that had an amazing run in almost every tournament that has ever been held thus far, their potential to achieve greatness is unlimited thanks to the skill of the players.
Liquid:
Sure, benching your IGL and signing a CS player that has barley had any time to adjust to the VALORANT environment is rather questionable. But the way I see it, if you give Jamppi two months to get used to the style and feel of the game and if he really wants to put in the effort Liquid will reign supreme once again.
Fnatic:
They have amazing results against top teams, good tournament finishes and most of all they're PUTTING IN THE WORK.
To summarize, these organisations couldn't give a single crap if the teams qualified or not. From a company prespective, they like to see things long-term. They believe that the players that they've signed have the potential to improve to such an extent that they will infact be a top contendor. And ALL these teams have the potential, it's just up to them to put in the work.
Well said but sometimes org do take things like "underperforming" into consideration for benching the player (you as a pro player know it better than anyone). In other times, when there is a cracked CS player or a really talented free agent, orgs try to put their hands on them even if it costs them something like benching a player. As a professional player, you can point more things out than I and others can and obviously you will be right about most of the things. Congratulations on making it to masters, I wish you and Guild Goodluck <3
syn505 [#5]Tsm
-Cutler
+Brax / Koler-tailored (coach)
+myth (coach)/s
i'd love that knowing brax and koler are super good but who's gonna IGL?
greedeetv [#13]Sorry, but there's no way they would have myth as coach lol
the myth thing is a joke lol
Fenerbahce [#37]TSM just needs a good raze player. Raze is the most important agent in this game now.And I think tsm should learn to play just one entry frag in some maps
bro wdym, they already have subroza who is literally the best raze player in the game
Ryuzaki [#29]Yeah I don't understand the fact Spyder playing Jett over Ska, He is cracked but I think he should pick any other duelist and let Ska be Jett and the primary sniper.
ska prob doesnt like being aggresive, wants to play passive
beb0p [#38]bro wdym, they already have subroza who is literally the best raze player in the game
Yeah he's so good he even has a phrase for the way he mastered the abilities.
pampire [#22]thing is nip actually trialled zeek and vak after fs, they just understood that wasn't what they needed unlike g2.
Well, i didn't know that, sometimes i think G2 just want good aimers, happily NIP understood who they really needed. and come on, they looks like another team
greedeetv [#40]Yeah he's so good he even has a phrase for the way he mastered the abilities.
exactly man wtf is with these people
can10combr [#8]G2 doesn't need an IGL or a roster change. They already proved they can beat anyone when they play their own game without trolling. When mental problems gone, when the players have a free mind and feel no pressure, everything will be good again for G2.
So far they are struggling to beat any tier 1 team so would you say they're trolling all the games they play right now?
Delusional_Mitch_Fan [#35]i'd love that knowing brax and koler are super good but who's gonna IGL?
hazed? He was IGLing for them before First Strike i think.
He said he would get too emotional but who knows maybe he might want to try it again.
T1 is good but having made some roster moves just slows their progress
TSM is also good, but inconsistency is the thorn in their step for them. Drone and Subroza need to find their middle ground and stay on it
C9 WAS good, but TenZ left the roster, and that's a big downgrade since he wasa good entry fragger, and now they barely beat teams like Ghost?? cmon now
As for Liquid, They just shit the bed against good teams, idk why
supernova [#50]C9 needs a full new roster
TSM needs to change 2 players
G2 needs an IGL
Liquid needs kick L1NK
EG and Vitality also needs a full new roster
So you're saying C9 should drop Leaf, poiz and xeta? And that EG should drop Aleksandar and Temperature? And that Vitality should drop everyone? Leaf is probably a top 20-25 player in NA, poiz is a young and upcoming talent and is a very good player and xeta can play many roles and play them very well. Aleksandar is a top 15 aimer in NA and Temperature is a very good support player. For Vitality I'm not sure what they need to do. It's not liek everyone on their team is bad but they just need to be better. I think they just need an upgrade over bramz cause everyone else are good players and there's probably not much better available.
Fat_Lard [#51]So you're saying C9 should drop Leaf, poiz and xeta? And that EG should drop Aleksandar and Temperature? And that Vitality should drop everyone? Leaf is probably a top 20-25 player in NA, poiz is a young and upcoming talent and is a very good player and xeta can play many roles and play them very well. Aleksandar is a top 15 aimer in NA and Temperature is a very good support player. For Vitality I'm not sure what they need to do. It's not liek everyone on their team is bad but they just need to be better. I think they just need an upgrade over bramz cause everyone else are good players and there's probably not much better available.
Yes :)
Fat_Lard [#51]So you're saying C9 should drop Leaf, poiz and xeta? And that EG should drop Aleksandar and Temperature? And that Vitality should drop everyone? Leaf is probably a top 20-25 player in NA, poiz is a young and upcoming talent and is a very good player and xeta can play many roles and play them very well. Aleksandar is a top 15 aimer in NA and Temperature is a very good support player. For Vitality I'm not sure what they need to do. It's not liek everyone on their team is bad but they just need to be better. I think they just need an upgrade over bramz cause everyone else are good players and there's probably not much better available.
relyks vice and mitch need to go asap for c9B to have any success. TenZ couldn't even carry those guys.
Sayf [#33]Just want to comment here.
There is no need for roster changes when organisations are in it for the long run. Sure, a lot of tier one teams were beaten by talents. But don't forget that these teams all have results to back up their skill. In the future, when top teams have time to develop to opponents that are rather unpredictable, we'll see a lot better results.
With that being said, there's nothing wrong with the roster of Liquid, G2 or Fnatic.
Starting with G2:
They're a top team that had an amazing run in almost every tournament that has ever been held thus far, their potential to achieve greatness is unlimited thanks to the skill of the players.
Liquid:
Sure, benching your IGL and signing a CS player that has barley had any time to adjust to the VALORANT environment is rather questionable. But the way I see it, if you give Jamppi two months to get used to the style and feel of the game and if he really wants to put in the effort Liquid will reign supreme once again.
Fnatic:
They have amazing results against top teams, good tournament finishes and most of all they're PUTTING IN THE WORK.
To summarize, these organisations couldn't give a single crap if the teams qualified or not. From a company prespective, they like to see things long-term. They believe that the players that they've signed have the potential to improve to such an extent that they will infact be a top contendor. And ALL these teams have the potential, it's just up to them to put in the work.
This aged well lmao except for g2
supernova [#50]C9 needs a full new roster
TSM needs to change 2 players
G2 needs an IGL
Liquid needs kick L1NK
EG and Vitality also needs a full new roster
"c9 needs a new roster" yea no.
turkey [#56]TSM is prolly gonna see how this new roster works with the coach first, then decide stuff about their roster
timeCheck this post is 2 fucking months old.
Adri98 [#10]You dont know what G2 need...The G2 firepower is the best EU firepower...but tactically they are really bad compared with another teams. They need a IGL obviously
The G2 firepower is the best EU firepower
I wanna know what you are smoking and I want exact details of where I can get that shit.
Coachable [#59]The G2 firepower is the best EU firepower
I wanna know what you are smoking and I want exact details of where I can get that shit.
G2 have never had good firepower.(Except that time with Ardiis being good or Patitek on Reyna) They've always been a shithole ever since the rest of EU learned you could counter aggression. Mixwel is probably the worst duelist in a tier 1 org where his passive use of Jett makes him way less than a threat and he has legit in not a single match I've watched as a analyst in 2021 had a surprising good play on the agent who mind you he has been playing for over half a year now. He is the genuine problem when it comes to firepower since he is the one that is supposed to get the big picks in the compositions they run.
pampire [#21]btw, i said that not because i think that, but because during the dfuse match the whole chat was spamming that (i said it for the meme)
actually i've been thinking TL cNed would be way better than G2, when they just signed with Jamppi as a jett player .. but now TL is at top with their new strats so must be okay for them ..
Coachable [#59]The G2 firepower is the best EU firepower
I wanna know what you are smoking and I want exact details of where I can get that shit.
You had arrived a bit late, just 2 months ago. 13/05/2021 G2 has another lineup and they have like 2 months to train for Masters 3.
syn505 [#44]hazed? He was IGLing for them before First Strike i think.
He said he would get too emotional but who knows maybe he might want to try it again.
roza was first strike igl and cutler took over untul stage 2 of vct where hazed igl again
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