paper rex is a really hard team to antistrat since they play much more aggresively compared to other teams. Their strongest players are by far f0rsaken and jingg. However, they are also their weakest players and as long as you kill both of them you win the round. the strat? just aim diff lmao
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V0sotros [#3]the strategy to beat 2 of the best aimers in the world is just to out-aim them lmao ok
sign scream ez aim buff
SigmaMale [#5]Step 1) Ban bind
Step 2) Profit
true fnatic made a mistake letting bind through. their comp was also questionable against prx. ascent was really unlucky for fnatic i would say as there were heaps of rounds where mindfreak just solo brought the game back.
SleepyBear [#23]Step 1 : kill f0rsaken
Step 2 : kill jingg
Step 3 : there's no step 3 mindfreak will Clutch
You're wrong btw
Step 1: kill f0rsaken
Step 2: kill Jingg
Step 3: kill mindfreak
step 4: kill D4v4i
step 5: kill Benkai
step 6: wake up because you can only dream of getting all 5 of them
clutchzero [#22]You just need Astra. But not a common Astra, the guy must dominate this agent and be capable of extract more than 100% of her.
Is it a problem? Yes, but still by far the best way to do it.
so basically have Sugarz3ro on your team
Slow them down, if they can't enter the site they can't win.
Go fast against them when you're attacking with no strats like you're playing ranked games. Going against them with their own strat instead of slow ones will just make them panic since they would not expect another team to have the same all aim no brain strat.
V0sotros [#25]so basically have Sugarz3ro on your team
Basically, yes, but you can add a few more guys on this list.
marved, mako, pancada, melser ... but there aren't many guys that can bring more than 100% of Astra.
clutchzero [#27]Basically, yes, but you can add a few more guys on this list.
marved, mako, pancada, melser ... but there aren't many guys that can bring more than 100% of Astra.
I just said Sugarz3ro bc in my mind he's the most iconic Astra player in the world, maybe not the best but his performance on Astra specifically was very flashy and nice, and the other ppl on your list play other controllers at a very high level as well
titanwithpp [#26]Slow them down, if they can't enter the site they can't win.
Go fast against them when you're attacking with no strats like you're playing ranked games. Going against them with their own strat instead of slow ones will just make them panic since they would not expect another team to have the same all aim no brain strat.
so you mean any Team need copy them & change strat in 5 day ? okay good luck with that lmao
SleepyBear [#30]so you mean any Team need copy them & change strat in 5 day ? okay good luck with that lmao
Yeah a 5 duelist comp or just 5 stacking a site and playing like its deathmatch = win against PRX
titanwithpp [#31]Yeah a 5 duelist comp or just 5 stacking a site and playing like its deathmatch = win against PRX
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V0sotros [#28]I just said Sugarz3ro bc in my mind he's the most iconic Astra player in the world, maybe not the best but his performance on Astra specifically was very flashy and nice, and the other ppl on your list play other controllers at a very high level as well
indeed he is. when you mention "Astra" 99% of people will think sugarz3ro. It wasn't a coincidence, when PRX had to play against his Astra they had no answer.
firo [#17]bro do you even watch the match or just look at vlr lol
thay was the only masters match i watched
Pogtestic [#37]Difference is, this is not sentinels. You shut down tenz sentinels auto lose, u shut down f0rsaken or jingg there is still mindfreak clutching, d4v41 with the impact kills, and benkai with all the comms and lineups and shit.
this is my new copypasta
PRX just force aim duels. Most teams have that 1 player that can win those aim duels (Derke and yay most notably), but PRX has 2.
Also I think one key success to PRX has been their ability to counter Optic/EMEA/DRXs comfort pick. The amount of chaos forsaken brings just makes this so hard for teams to deal with. Not to mention Jingg on Raze is fucking crazy in his own right.
I'll be interested to see if optic is willing to ban bind to avoid falling into the same trap everyone else has.
CowboySG [#43]PRX just force aim duels. Most teams have that 1 player that can win those aim duels (Derke and yay most notably), but PRX has 2.
Also I think one key success to PRX has been their ability to counter Optic/EMEA/DRXs comfort pick. The amount of chaos forsaken brings just makes this so hard for teams to deal with. Not to mention Jingg on Raze is fucking crazy in his own right.
I'll be interested to see if optic is willing to ban bind to avoid falling into the same trap everyone else has.
I would remove drx from the list cuz prx always struggled against east Asian teams.
CowboySG [#43]PRX just force aim duels. Most teams have that 1 player that can win those aim duels (Derke and yay most notably), but PRX has 2.
Also I think one key success to PRX has been their ability to counter Optic/EMEA/DRXs comfort pick. The amount of chaos forsaken brings just makes this so hard for teams to deal with. Not to mention Jingg on Raze is fucking crazy in his own right.
I'll be interested to see if optic is willing to ban bind to avoid falling into the same trap everyone else has.
then i feel like liquid is the only team that stands a chance against prx considering they have jamppi, nivera, sccream who litterally are sherrif gods
number1_ScreaM_fan [#47]then i feel like liquid is the only team that stands a chance against prx considering they have jamppi, nivera, sccream who litterally are sherrif gods
Maybe, they're also the closest thing to an EMEA PRX, living or dying off of chaos at times. I don't think Liquid would beat them though, PRX still have fantastic team play on top of all this, not so much Liquid.
NajibRazak [#44]I would remove drx from the list cuz prx always struggled against east Asian teams.
You're right, but PRX still beat DRX on bind in M1. My point is that Bind is almost every elite team's best map, or close to best map and PRX has turned that on its head.
CowboySG [#50]You're right, but PRX still beat DRX on bind in M1. My point is that Bind is almost every elite team's best map, or close to best map and PRX has turned that on its head.
PRX beat DRX on haven not bind, unless ur talking abt different events?
CowboySG [#50]You're right, but PRX still beat DRX on bind in M1. My point is that Bind is almost every elite team's best map, or close to best map and PRX has turned that on its head.
PRX did not beat DRX on bind in M1, it's the other way, PRX was dominating but DRX destroyed their momentum after 1 clutch
helohelo [#32]Team Secret would love to take care of Paper Rex since they match up so well
tell me this is a joke man
Kepin [#42]They are not playing today
Whenever they are , they shall be getting 2-0 for optic , downvote me prx fans , i don't care , you'll see later on what shall happen
thorking1234567899 [#59]Whenever they are , they shall be getting 2-0 for optic , downvote me prx fans , i don't care , you'll see later on what shall happen
Ok
hansk588 [#15]if DRX out of this tournament PRX will win this masters
If EMEA are out of this tournament optic win masters
pitchfork [#55]PRX beat DRX on haven not bind, unless ur talking abt different events?
My bad, got them backwards
joellogic [#53]Also, that mid push from Jingg in the begginning of the round can be easily cutted out.
all fnc need was a player watching from top mid.
Wich never happened during the 2 or 3 times jingg done that.
if u r talkin abt round 20 then u r wrong they had to players at mid top but they still couldnt stop that push because
1) they got suppressed
2) the push was really really fast..... even if they were still waiting there after getting suppressed they couldnt have caught jingg off guard
valulrantefanboy [#16]play slow and smart maybe. Also I think Astra maybe good agent to counter/slower their retake
If I remember correctly guild and fnatic played slow, and PRX came to them. CMIIW. I think some of the biggest reason PRX lose the round because:
- they throw, somehow they could lose when they have man advantage
- enemy play good retake with good setup
number1_ScreaM_fan [#8]true fnatic made a mistake letting bind through. their comp was also questionable against prx. ascent was really unlucky for fnatic i would say as there were heaps of rounds where mindfreak just solo brought the game back.
If that's how you decide unlucky then every team against optic a thousand times are unlucky cuz yay Crashies and marved just solo clutched rounds. Unluckyy
bro can't imagine a team is just really good
prx's aggression is insanely powerful, and it's way smarter than most consider.
ascent, 2 set plays with jing's blast packs utilizing tons of cool util plays. the fade + raze was honestly perfection
bind - the amount of support forsaken gets on his yoru from the support players is insane, their TP plays are always backed up, the team gets simple calls and understands how to move. brimstone + yoru ult/molly plays were goated, utilizing fade + tp's also!
within their aggression is an immense amount of coordination and skill, you have to watch the games and the minimap closely to get it, but the narrative that they're simple a team that "run's it down" or is only fueled by aggression is wrong. they're super talented and really smart.
helohelo [#32]Team Secret would love to take care of Paper Rex since they match up so well
Not really. Maybe against old Paper Rex but not this new one where there is actual chemistry.
CowboySG [#48]Maybe, they're also the closest thing to an EMEA PRX, living or dying off of chaos at times. I don't think Liquid would beat them though, PRX still have fantastic team play on top of all this, not so much Liquid.
I really like this take, and the one above.
Liquid have rarely ever looked like the best team in EMEA, but they've always looked like a good matchup against pretty much any team internationally. The only exception being Zeta division. They were very poor against them on Fracture and Split.
Krishna_ [#74]bro can't imagine a team is just really good
prx's aggression is insanely powerful, and it's way smarter than most consider.
ascent, 2 set plays with jing's blast packs utilizing tons of cool util plays. the fade + raze was honestly perfection
bind - the amount of support forsaken gets on his yoru from the support players is insane, their TP plays are always backed up, the team gets simple calls and understands how to move. brimstone + yoru ult/molly plays were goated, utilizing fade + tp's also!
within their aggression is an immense amount of coordination and skill, you have to watch the games and the minimap closely to get it, but the narrative that they're simple a team that "run's it down" or is only fueled by aggression is wrong. they're super talented and really smart.
I agree with you, most of us only talk about how good entry from f0rsaken and jinggg, but behind this they have really good support from benkai, d4v4i, and mindfreak
If you haven't played prx before, I think it is important to choose fracture when playing against them. Because the map forces every team to push aggressively, even a team that hasn't played prx before will adapt well to aggression. I think that's why guild was able to take them to overtime on that map.
nutab1e [#78]If you haven't played prx before, I think it is important to choose fracture when playing against them. Because the map forces every team to push aggressively, even a team that hasn't played prx before will adapt well to aggression. I think that's why guild was able to take them to overtime on that map.
Guild really play good retake against them and hold push when they were attacker
SleepyBear [#72]u guys fking Bronze rank dont act like u know Everything
i dont see any flaws in my strat. maybe your radiant ass can come up with someone great
AzZzzz [#69]If I remember correctly guild and fnatic played slow, and PRX came to them. CMIIW. I think some of the biggest reason PRX lose the round because:
- they throw, somehow they could lose when they have man advantage
- enemy play good retake with good setup
Zeta were able to beat them by playing slow so who knows
yungbasel [#76]I really like this take, and the one above.
Liquid have rarely ever looked like the best team in EMEA, but they've always looked like a good matchup against pretty much any team internationally. The only exception being Zeta division. They were very poor against them on Fracture and Split.
Liquid is built for international events, not so much domestic. I do hope more chaotic teams make it into Champs though. Imagine a Champs with teams like PRX, TL, FaZe, Leviatan, Kru (or the NIP we saw in M1), and NORTHEPTION. While these might not all be the best teams that could make it, it would be fun as hell to watch.
Enthusiast [#85]be optic and you will beat them every single time
I love you Enthusiast! my guy always speaking facts.
CowboySG [#83]Liquid is built for international events, not so much domestic. I do hope more chaotic teams make it into Champs though. Imagine a Champs with teams like PRX, TL, FaZe, Leviatan, Kru (or the NIP we saw in M1), and NORTHEPTION. While these might not all be the best teams that could make it, it would be fun as hell to watch.
We can only dream bruh. We can only dream.
And you make a good point.
Of the 3 international tournaments they played, liquid were knocked out of 2 by domestic rivals.
thorking1234567899 [#59]Whenever they are , they shall be getting 2-0 for optic , downvote me prx fans , i don't care , you'll see later on what shall happen
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