Hot take on na val

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The reason we saw teams like EG, 100t and ghost fall short in playoffs is lack of experienced IGL, if igls like boostio, johnqt and stellar got more experience they would definitely be scaled much higher than they already are, that final cherry on the top is what is stopping them from becoming international contenders

The top 4 left in playoffs all have experienced igls
OPTIC - fns
Xset - deph
Nrg - hazed
Faze - poised

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Ullyr

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Valorant is a game where the teams that dominate have the most big brain igls worldwide.

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VirajKnight

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But Sentinels won Masters2?

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trola

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when the game is so young and then they fell off so hard, classic NA moment

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Ullyr

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lol every other region was noncompetitive the first year, prx didn't even switched to valorant yet when the first master was played and still on cs.... Literally only EU and NA was competitive.

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Kiklop

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Nuturn was rocking hard

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unknown_trash

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Because Korea puts in the work.

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kaibe8

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Considering he was coach and IGL, shaz was a pretty good IGL at the time.

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1mBor3d

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their strats worked well for that meta, they read fnatic like a book to win icebox and gp 5-0 against them, they just failed to adapt it wasnt all tenz go kill like it is now it was tenz and shahz go kill

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wiki

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but Sentinels were "big brain" for the time

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Funozito

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Shazham was a great IGL at the time. He had a lot of game knowledge in the state Val was in.

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kristof

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but gambit and optic won masters?

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Wiggs

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Stellar was the IGL for LG for over a year?

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well 3/4 of the remaining igls have had years more experience in CS, surely that would help too

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Wiggs

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He didn't specify experience, figured he just meant Valorant. Obviously Stellar still have room to grow.

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Stellar is a good igl, watching their games they have some nice mid rounding and calls but he's sadly uncomparable to somebody like FNS. more experience and he'd be great imo

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ItsMeDio

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no
the defining factor on optic is yay, not fns

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Psychological_You17262

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Swap yay for someone like cryocells: same results, if not, only slightly worse
Swap fns for someone like dephh: different results

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ItsMeDio

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No omegalul
But I forgot to say that "it's yay & marved"

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MerkFreeks

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FNS still probably is one of the best callers in all of Valorant lets be honest, even if he isnt the best with the gunplay

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ItsMeDio

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Yep, but he's not the defining factor. Change fns to vanity, maybe they can reach higher than current height

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rishu004

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what drug are u on?

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ItsMeDio

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wdym?
i rate vanity > fns anyday

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rishu004

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like literally on what grounds? not saying that vanity is bad by any means, still top 4 igl for me. but fns is way ahead in terms of mid round calling and the volume of his stratbook. and pls dont tell me u think vanity is better cuz he is a better fragger.

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zyzyck

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every player on that roster is a defining factor, you take one away and they do not operate the same. all of optic's players are amazing

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Psychological_You17262

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Wrong reply

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Kezyyz

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wasnt it aproto?

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100T did not lose bcoz of stellar, he's a great IGL
They all just threw anti-eco rounds and died to classics. The end.

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gweees

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I feel like this is mainly because Valorant hasn't been refined down to like an Astralis level of strats

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tonyhart7

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what strats ?? throw smoke,nade and molly ??? kekw

Val has much more than that

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nairolf1337

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absolutely clueless....

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tonyhart7

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oh Yess absolutely 20 Year old game that has minimal change everyyear certainly has more strats than game got updated every 2-3 month

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patuj

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I hope this is bait comment

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nairolf1337

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I took a quick look at his profile, definitely bait

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gweees

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0/8

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wiki

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This doesn't really have anything to do with it, CS is actually far more mid-rounding that this game than pre planned shit. Most of what you see is on the "Astralis" level. What we're waiting for is just improvement of high level util usage, which is what makes FNC so good rn.

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i wouldnt call POISED a veteran while saying Stellar isn't, they were both very low profile NA CSGO players, Dephh also picked up IGLing only after switching to Valorant, in CS he was mostly a supportive element but he definetely has his years of experience playing if thats what you mean