1. Awp is different in CS than Valorant (much more impactful)
2. Tenz is good but he's definitely not S1mple

First C9, now V1. What the hell is even going on?? I feel like the only really established (and good) team in NA after these is Optic. TGRD and 100T still have a ton of potential but idk if they can compete internationally yet.

What the fuck?? He was literally one of the best IGLs in stage 1. I feel like V1 is realizing they might not get a spot in franchising so they're splitting up all their options and it's gonna hurt them. Wishing the best for the players tho, Wippie, Zander, Zellsis, Effys, and Penny deserve more. Out of those, I think Zellsis and Wippie are probably some of the best in their respective roles, and if it wasn't for their issues, they would be even more highly rated.

Tenz is def good on op but I think he shines more as a rifler tbh

Zeta and TGRD are by far my fav teams this year although I like new 100T too.

Like imagine if Victor was like, yeah I’m joining andbox but Optic gets Oderus dw

Yeah this C9 one is INSANE

Fns is washed…team wins masters while he calls incredibly.

Imma be honest besides optic being head and shoulders above (and with C9 maybe faltering with their “trade”) I don’t think any team is THAT much better than the others. That being said, sen is the worst rn.

Genuinely a good team

Saya’s not leaving TGRD for a long while I think

Vanity popped off. If I see him do this again in groups, I'm never calling him a bad fragger.

I believe in TGRD to put in the work and only lose one more series in their group at most.

I respect it

I was really hoping for Optic and C9 but I think C9's not gonna be doing great after losing Xeta

WHAT IS THIS EMEA COPIUM HOW TF ARE YOU SO CONVINCED ABT THIS

This is one of the funniest things I’ve ever read, thank you. I am in fact a M3C fan but that doesn’t mean I can’t appreciate when other teams (like optic) play well. If you think optic’s just pugging it out idk what to tell you.

Omg a cs dude you’re so quirky and different

Ofc just check my post: https://www.vlr.gg/101138/top-5-igls/

They would get 13-0'd by Optic and 100T

How are people seeing M3C lose ONE game and going: oh yeah they've FALLEN off they're never winning again.

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Yeah I mean he was fucked so not sad to see him gone. I think they're a lot more comfortable now, and I think they're still pumping out great content.

Imma be honest I think Optic is just leagues ahead of any other NA team at the moment. I'd be shocked if they dropped a series this qualification.

Honestly yeah unless Guard get to work again, which I trust them to do. I can't believe C9 would do this NOW tho it feels so stupid.

LMFAOO LFT OXY??? On a more serious note, if they could poach some V1 and Knights players that would be fantastic for them. I'm thinking Zellsis (provided his mental health improves), Skuba, Ban, maybe even Zander. We'll really have to see what happens tho.

Tbf I think he might be the weakest of the Guard players but that's not saying much bc they're all pretty good overall. He really fits the team as well, which is why I'm sure they've kept him around. I say wait until the year is up, then consider roster moves. Everyone's still very young.

Who tf gets the second spot now....

This is awful

Yeah I don’t see that team going anywhere atm tho. There’s really strong competition in NA and I don’t think they could beat TSM or NRG much less C9 or Optic

I like beavers

Bro those are literally all the games he's played with TGRD in VCT. Idk what you want lmao

Bro I mean they have strats and play together; that's more than another specific "tier 1 NA team"

In Saya's last 14 games, he's been above 200 acs in all but two of them and only bottom fragged once. How on earth is that not consistent.

Edit: meant to respond to the person this comment is responding too.

Bro Loud, PRX, or Zeta are gonna win no cap not even trolling

Wrong they're actually looking decent, competition is just fierce in NA rn

Are you calling yay and saya not consistent LMFAO

Wrong! NA pioneered the Phoenix meta, everyone else just copied, you will see its power at masters

I feel like Stax is very good at drilling util combos but no one on DRX is good at midrounding (just look at what FNS did to em)

Ez clap you got this shit

Yes I agree

Bro then who is

Cap on the optic suffering

Fantastic player, meh igl imo

I'll def check it out, thank you!

Alright some people are gonna flame me for this, but I think Shaz last year was a good igl and a top tier player. Even in the first challengers of this year he looked really good individually, and had some great sova utill. He fell off HARD this qualification.

Just curious who WOULD you say is #1 then

I'm sorry did you just say Optic just go for duels??? They're insanely structured dude, nearly as much as M3C. Besides, I don't think Redgar is as good as FNS at midrounding and calling even if he's a better fragger.

Abt Ange1 just check my other comment. I don't know enough.

Isn't Zest the IGL for DRX at the moment tho? I definitely agree Crow is amazing, I'd put him 6th. And for C0M, I'd say yes he's on the rise but I'd rate Zander and Valyn as better IGLs in NA rn even with Zander's underperformance last qual.

If I could get Guard, C9, and Optic, I'd be happy asf. 100T would be a nice bonus. Then we could also have Fnatic, M3C, FPX, and Liquid/Ascend/Guild from EMEA. Loud, NiP, Vivo Keyd from Brazil. Zeta and Crazy Racoons from Japan. OnSlayers and DRX from Korea. PRX, Xerxia, and some other team from SEA. Then have three matches a day. That would be so fucking hype.