Depending on how C9 works, I think we'll see if another NA team can stand up to Optic or if NA will have a bit of a skill gap for a little while.
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Depending on how C9 works, I think we'll see if another NA team can stand up to Optic or if NA will have a bit of a skill gap for a little while.
Like I mentioned all throught this, I count chamber as a duelist lmao. Maybe a better title would've been top 5 fraggers (chamber + duelists)
Babybay and Dicey will shit on ssk and zeddy no cap
I'd say the only duelists he's definitely not as good as in NA rn are Yay and Saya (maybe Leaf). You could make cases for Bdog and Cryo too, but once again the issue is Sen not supporting him and him being a little inconsistent. But when he hits he hits.
Genuinely I don't think there's another player who plays his roles that could stack up to him. He's just too good. Sheydos too while we're at it. Oh and Nats.
Make something original for once in your life
Hope they make it!!!
This is false but he's not as good as his rabid fans say. Still better than almost any T2 duelist out there.
Aren't you the dude who unironically said you're an alpha male who used to be a beta
OH MY FUCKIN GOD
(for future reference: m3c's 9th round against Navi on Ascent 5/22)
Also when Deffo is the weakest player mechanically on your team, you know you're fucking insane
Keep them in your back pocket but don't be as invested in them when they aren't playing anymore. Find some other teams and players you like and follow them too. I like Guard as a team, but when I can't root for them, I also like to cheer for Zeta, M3C, and Optic.
He did say that, I trust you bro
The only way I can twist it is: they were pugging with xeta a little last game because they expected to play with curry and they're actually insane with him. That's the only hopium I got.
Agreed and I fucking love to see it!!!
I actually want C9 to win. We know optic is fucking fantastic, if C9 manage to beat them, we’ll have two very good contenders for the world stage. If they can’t and lose horribly, I don’t even know which NA team could make a worthy second team.
I watched a bit of his overwatch career and honestly it seemed like even on shock he was never the best in any role
What, masters 1 of 2021??? That barely counts tbh
Sinatraa isn't going anywhere near their active roster bro
M3C REBOUND PLEASE LETS GO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uUo-BGgsqUA
(try from 8:08)
YESS
edit: omfg on breeze to. Madman.
Yeah it is on points, but Guard got first seed from Challengers 1, so that's more than enough. Optic is almost definitely going to win Challengers 2, so no new team can topple that and even if they did Guard will still definitely make it. We'll have to see how they perform then though.
They'll still make it to LCQ and we'll see then
It's seeming likely they won't make playoffs so we'll see them in LCQ. I trust them to get better cause there's no way we don't get to see Saya on LAN again. Might switch to Zeta in the meantime tho.
It's just a flesh wound, they'll get over it
Where do you see odds :(
But honestly Sick is the only flex SEN need. He's definitely not the best flex in NA, but he's certainly not a bad player at all.
Good thread thanks guys
Do you really think Phoenix buffs will make him workable? I highly doubt that.
Yeah exactly! So I'd call him what he is: the best duelist in the world currently (on chamber which is by far his main pic).
NO WAY YOU SAY SICK PHOENIX WOULD WORK.
Anyway I'm fine with this as a whole but fuck sinatraa; just scout some insane T2 player.
Ok if we’re literally just scrapping V1 for parts , replace dapr with Wippie that dude’s NUTS. Zellsis is amazing too but I’m not sure he would have a place on the team.
So do you count him as a sentinel main then? I’d argue chamber is the new meta duelistlike.
Sentinels 2023:
Zander -smokes igl
Sick - flex (kayo + raze + whatever else)
Tenz - please for the love of god learn chamber
Dapr -sentinel/second flex (hey he’s still good)
Fifth player -scout a cracked sova/fade or pay Mini to find em, he’s good at that
Coach: poach MikesHD
Analyst: no clue but get one
This will be a winning roster.
I’m fine w the yay not being there bc he only plays Jett as a duelist (guess he’s a sentinel main then?), but how are you gonna say “by recent performance he’s not that good”
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