Please tell me how has FPX been "anti strated to hell by everyone" so far? There's no footage showing that outside of Breeze potentially. Pearl is completely new map and FPX's Breeze is terrible and almost lost it vs PRX's troll comp.

I wouldn't say that. He played well here and has had maps where he has hard thrown, but he has been really good for long time already. IMO he has been Liquid's best or second best player for quite a while depending how you rate ScreaM (agent pool in the past).

LETS GO still worried for them going forward especially with map pool but there's little time to fix them

The thing with many Asian teams outside of DRX is that they play super aggressive and different styles and its going caught teams of guard until they become really readable and get punished hard. So predictable after one run.

2nd place curse

EMEA because people tend to forget that LATAM and Brazil teams are pretty much super rosters. Rosters with best possible players from those regions on every role pretty much. If that happened with EMEA teams it would be over for others.

Its based on so much how teams play regionally. When there's no international matchups or even footage this will happen. Some region's understanding of the map is just going to work worse or better. Doesn't even have to mean its bad just that it doesn't work against other regions. We already see this with EMEA 0-3 and NA 3-0 its not coincidence. Or the competitiveness inside the region is just weak on some map that again may put some teams in bad spot. Its like when Fnatic were looking way ahead of others with their Fracture. This is why new maps shouldn't be included in biggest tournament of the year in my opinion.

this is the reason new maps shouldn't be added to Champions out of any tournament. Regions play regionally and if region starts playing it wrong from start then they are fucked. So dumb.

It just doesn't sound good compared to many other caster duos or even other Valorant caster duos where the competition isn't even that high. Like compare these to CSGO Major casters who are so hype on average. Every duo. But here its Major event and pretty mid casting IMO. But its just my opinion and no hate towards these guys.

Its actually kind of crazy how bad they are with pistols while having so much firepower. And overall it seems to be problem with EMEA teams for some reason.

but for real new map Pearl and FPX's worst map Breeze if it wasn't for those 2 it could have easily gone the other way. FPX's form just looked like shit on Breeze, but I think that just showed they don't know how to play it properly. They almost lost on it against PRX throw comp in GF.

I guess they just wanted to push potential CT guy because otherwise they would have gotten sandwiched by people flanking

I want Finnish players (Jamppi) to CSGO so I can finally cheer for team but at the same time I really wish he stayed in Valorant

Happens. Just take days off from weights so you recover and you will eventually get used to it and have less problems. When I started doing basic weight training after not doing for long time I wasn't able to straighten my arm properly for 2 days and muscles felt sore. But as you do more it becomes easier the next day but still need to give muscles time to chill. But yeah if your elbow is hurting then you are likely doing something wrong.

EMEA teams had to eliminate each other last Masters so I don't know what you are talking about

good script gods are based

I think we shouldn't make much out of the first 2 games. People are way overreacting right now. 2-0 vs KRU and against XSET they played the new map Pearl and Breeze that is weak map for FPX and where their individual players were just having bad time overall.

I don't agree. FPX was only underrated because they had to play with a sub. And I could be wrong but I have heard that they are good scrim team so I don't think any international team was underrating them by any means. Also FPX is really hard to team to anti strat because they change their stuff all the time. They anti strat others so anti strattting them is hard. I have heard Sliggy and Bacon talking about this multiple times on stream. And I understand your point of not knowing how they play with Suygetsu but you had all the footage from EMEA and on top of that they didn't have much time prepping new stuff with Suygetsu or even Shao anyway. They only had couple days of practice after weeks of not practicing together if I'm not wrong.

And yes you are right that they are more studied now, but their first games haven't really shown that. They 2-0d KRU who are pretty good on maps that have never been the strongest for FPX. And yesterday they lost Pearl that is completely new map where teams are still figuring out how to play it and where some regions just end up being better because the region's meta just works the best against others (like NA right now). And FPX completely rolled XSET on Fracture playing exact same comp they did in Masters 2. And Breeze is in weird spot for FPX and they have only 2 officials with this current comp and feels like its in bad spot for them right now. Maybe their worst map. And that was also just bad from FPX in individual decision making, aim etc.

Hooxi bandwagoner smh

ofc but you need to understand that this site is full of baiters and NA vs EU is banter thing that exist in most esports. That is what its mostly.

This roster would be insane on paper, but not sure about Sliggy. Guy is smart and everything, but overrated as coach. People acting like if he was the best coach in the world even tho Liquid is performing pretty much the same with eMIL right now (obviously eMIL had easier start due to TL being together for long time). Maybe take him in as assistant coach.

Yeah I was pretty impressed by Zeddy and was bit surprised that NaVi decided to get rid of him. He should be good pick for whoever is looking for controller player (as long as he can communicate in English unless he finds Russian speaking team).

Neptune Vandal is ugly af but feels way better than slim shady RGX

This is why EMEA teams were smart. Tactical. They planned on getting the first seeds to avoid playing each other, but then Leviatan with Onur buff surprised everyone taking the 1st seed away from TL so FNC and FPX tactically chose to place as 2nd seeds just so they wouldn't have to knock each other down first round of playoffs.

Don't know, but both of them are some of the biggest EMEA pros on Twitch and stream pretty often, and both of them are also good so them duoing makes sense even if they didn't play in same team.

Perfect roster would be: 7ssk7, Cloud, Redgar, nAts, Chronicle/sheydos IMO

its bit hard because feels like Chronicle, Cloud and sheydos all play bit similar roles. They can play pretty much anything. But I would want to keep Cloud because I'm really high on him. He is insane player. Adding 7ssk7 to M3C would fix some of their core issues because they would finally have proper Chamber/Jett player. Also NaVi could try to get Jady back because he is still really good even if he didn't show his true potential in M3C. Deserves to be in tier 1.

And I know that NaVi is unlikely to sign Russian players, but we don't know how long they will stand by this especially if they have chances of picking players from M3C. And this is just dream team.

B Icebox causes most problems in this game when looking at pro play
but I personally hate both Breeze sites. Its always the same. Just Viper smoke and hope no one spams you through the smoke

But its not same. Boaster is one of the most experienced IGLs in Valorant right now and has proven that he is at least decent at it. You don't want to get rid of IGL like that even if they don't frag as much. And even still Boaster does good enough job at it compared to IGLs like Bonkar lol. And replacing Mini is something I have thought a little bit as well if I'm honest, but he has synergy with Boaster so as duo its decent. And they could try to get someone else and suck even more. And I said that they should replace Enzo IMO and Mistic unless he keeps performing like this. He had good amount of impact online just like Enzo but both seem to disappear on LAN outside of Mistic performing well so far.

Also its not hypocritical or biased when Fnatic is way better team in every metric compared to current BIG. They are not the same. Fnatic has been and likely still is top tier team in whole world even with this current roster so they don't need to make many changes. While BIG is bottom tier 1 in EMEA. They need to make changes. Their individuals just aren't good enough right now. They have Twisten, but Fnatic has 2 and half Twistens

Right now BIG is like Alfajer and 4 Mistics. The German players could do well on other teams as I said and I have been thinking, but having all 4 in same roster isn't good enough. They need to go to different directions if they want to compete in tier 1 IMO.

Ofc I would make changes. This roster is bottom tier 1 team and I don't want to see mediocre rosters in limited league. I have said this before that BIG has some decent more supportive players who could do well on some other rosters, but all of them stacked in 1 team just isn't enough. Twisten is insane, but talking about the German players. IMO they should completely get rid of everyone and build around Twisten. Maybe keep Musashi or Luckerr(only one of them) if you find a spot for them and I don't know about Luckerr's IGLing but I liked some of BIGs mid rounding.

Nah just replace Enzo with Leo. Instant firepower upgrade while keeping up good utility usage. And if Mistic doesn't perform replace him with Trexx or hoody. Mistic has played well here and had a lot of impact frags in EMEA, but has usually been weak performed on LANs. But tbh I really wish some org tried to sign all 4 from Guild. I think this team has so so much potential if they just added 5th who can actually frag. The firepower is through the roof. They have some of the best players on every role if you think about it.

bro its 1:38 AM

at least they will get franchising spot unlike Fraud Clan

let them celebrate for once

100T should have gotten out as 1st then

yeah we could grab their controller IGL player thanks

yeah its all gucci good footage for FPX to fix their mistakes as well

I think its just because EMEA isn't as good on Pearl. That won both 100T and XSET their games vs EMEA teams. If 3rd map was whatever else the games could have gone the other way. Also unfortunately the forms of each EMEA team seem to be quite bad right now. TL's lack of proper IGL got exposed by Leviatan and their individuals weren't able to carry. Fnatic just looks really sloppy right now compared to their peak form. Derke said that they have problems with comms so maybe that has to do with it. And FPX has looked great, but were having bad Breeze.

all 3

Don't worry its not over yet. Not greatest showing from the 3 teams so far, but same could have said about Gambit and Acend during their early runs.

FPX players can't hit shit while doing bad individual decisions. So many useless deaths because they decided to ego peek or simply can't shoot recon or trip.

They played this on grandfinals as well but tbh PRX was trolling hard with their comp so maybe gave false confidence for FPX. But its fine tbh. Breeze pretty shaky map for them after their Yoru comp got exposed and only 1 previous official with this comp. Suygetsu used to dominate on Viper tho so you are right on that.

FPX playing so bad on Breeze I don't even know what to say. Bad individual decisions and bad aim. So much overpeeking and overheating as well.

Sayf

aim diff right now FPX is whiffing every shot unlucky

The problem is that you can't really learn them properly if you don't know how each region plays. One region could find Neon good on that map and play super fast rounds all the time while other region could be more used to slow rounds with bunch of lurks etc. And when they finally meet up its really possible that the other approach end up being better and its just comp/playstyle diff at that point. You could prep way more but if you have worse understanding from the start you will lose. This is especially the case with new maps.

It was 50/50 at start due it being new map so FPX losing it isn't concerning yet. Fnatic looking relatively weak on it while 100T and OpTic looking decent already told that XSET might have better read on the map.

Yeah feels like Chamber would have been better fit. Their Cypher pick trolled them more than helped tbh. Cryo was just looking B long all game long and FPX couldn't do anything against it. While FPX did same but with Cypher util but that just allowed XSET to get into site with ease.

If 1 is good at it then likely all 3 are somewhat good at it. That is how it works. 100T vs FNC and LOUD vs OpTic already showed that XSET would have good chances at beating FPX here.

wait for map 2 and 3 fluke maps don't count

Because their plan seemed to be Cypher util holding B while they can have more pressure on A and mid. I think it worked pretty well, but FPX had problems retaking B.