Talon either get 13-0'd here or they curbstomp DRX

Also Sliggy mods timed me out for 10 minutes for calling keznit w racist in chat smh

MY W RACIST

Mixed doner kebab and chips

Please get OXY a team

Bro RieNs ass fucks runneR

Also surely keznit for K?

Will Xeppaa have a game losing whiff tonight?

I bet he mega whiffs on keznit in a 1v2 while keznit is dueling Xeppaa's team mate and then spray transfers to Xeppaa

keznit and heat and Shyy and friends (featuring Melser go 1v2 sometimes)

keznit individually clears OXY so keznit with some help clears OXY and friends one trillion times over

KPI, GoNext, Barca or Apeks (as much as it pains me to say soulcas aura diffs all of tier 2)

Nah bro NAVI are winning Champions for the ultimate swan song year before disbanding. ANGE1 goes to become Eastern European FNS and become a W costreamer, Shao and SUYGETSU stay on NAVI, ardiis moves to a team with paTiTek and zyppan goes back to Fortnite

They will once again beat PRX in a grand finals and we'll all go into 2025 saying this year is their year again

After Asuna_Yukki got banned u are the only goated USA baiter left

dort is a fraud through and through

Mazino on initiator kinda clears icl, they just keep putting him on smokes

kiNgg full time smokes and Mazino flash initiators would absolutely fry

Goated unc icl

TheAceGamer30 clears your whole bloodline lil bro, he puts in a quarter of the effort you do into his baits and they come out 100x better

W list but I'd probably put LEV in contenders. The coaching change seems to have really invigorated this team and given them a mental reset after Shanghai

Honestly Oni, Recon and Protocol are the only Phantom skins I really like

Surely alecksdesk for PRX no?

Also L sw0vb0y11 TheAceGamer30 clears his whole bloodline

OpTic were the undisputed best team in NA during 2022, being the only team who could really say they performed internationally during 2022

Which makes me wonder how they never won a regional title despite so obviously being the best team in NA

Anyone able to answer this question?

Let's see if he can outdo Wo0t in his debut international event

Pretty hard act to follow, and it's not even the best rookie debut of all time

I don't think yay at Berlin will ever be topped

Silence wench

https://youtu.be/wBhI-cFOHvo?si=LddaCp_9iBhFUE4g

https://youtu.be/gM0RwFGB2wo?si=KMxcUWXppQGWkYYV

Nah they are so back. Nephh saved this team

EMEA

1st seed TH
2nd seed FUT
3rd seed VIT
4th seed FNC

AMER

1st seed G2
2nd seed SEN
3rd seed LEV
4th seed 100T

PAC

1st seed GEN.G
2nd seed PRX
3rd seed DRX
4th seed TLN

CN

1st seed FPX
2nd seed TE
3rd seed BLG
4th seed EDG

Group A

TH
TE
LEV
TLN

Group B

G2
PRX
BLG
FNC

Group C

GEN.G
SEN
VIT
EDG

Group D

FPX
FUT
DRX
100T

Valid assessment

I mean can you find me a single positive of the map?

It just seems like it's in the exact same design space as Breeze and Icebox

Massive map with 17 year long rotates and incredibly open sites with like one or two central pieces of cover. I mean A site is literally one massive box in the middle and a heaven angle. Mid is completely useless for the attackers because the resources it takes to actually properly take it combined with how deep the actual avenues to site from it are means a mid split literally doesn't exist. This combined with the long rotate times that make fakes super unviable means it's another map where attacking is just 4 or 5 man execs every round. There are barely any pieces of geometry or obvious spots to place trips or sentinel util so the sentinels are incredibly repetitive in their setups and boring to play despite being necessary due to the massive size of the map. The size of the map pretty much eliminates Clove and Brimstone as viable options, and trying to smoke B site with anyone other than Harbour is so awkward with anyone other than maybe Harbour that I imagine he'll be in practically every game, probably alongside an Omen because paranoia seems genuinely broken on this map. Sova and Jett just get to run rampant on this map with zero competition in their agent class, with maybe some Breach thrown in there in double initiator comps. So the agent selection is gonna be just as stale as Breeze and Icebox, and smokes and sentinel are gonna be a pain to play.

Then holy fuck the B main post plant is just cancer through and through, whoever designed that part of the map genuinely needs to be fired. I'm convinced they don't have map play testers

And then the falling off the map gimmick just seems more inconvenient than dynamic or interesting

Overall bad map, should get rotated out asap

What cities do you think they'll host Masters and Champs in next year?

Obviously I'd like a tournament in the UK so I can try to attend one, probably Manchester, London or Edinburgh if they're feeling particularly adventurous

They're probably aiming to have another Masters tournament in Pacific, maybe Kyoto, or if they want to try a new country Bangkok

Then I imagine Champs will be held in Americas. Maybe in Canada, Toronto could be a good shout for a Champions

Blud thinks we're watching GC

Genuinely curious, not trying to hate at all

But how did SEN manage to keep their fanbase in 2022 and 2023 despite not doing anything notable for those years?

I feel like after missing S2 Playoffs in 2022 pretty much any other team would've had most of their fans jump ship

It's not like any of the players had particularly big personalities that people kept coming back for. dapr and Shazam stopped shit talking because they didn't have any base for it, and TenZ became popular off of dominating people with mechanical skill, which he wasn't doing at all in 2022. The only draw the team really had was their Twitter account and there's no fuckin way that could carry such a massive fanbase with nothing else going for it

So how did SEN keep it's fanbase in the dark days pre 2024?

Acting as if 90% of NA fans on this site don't literally try to be as insufferable as possible to anyone from a country that isn't America or Canada

I'd actually rather stick a rat down my urethra than touch Abyss in ranked

It's worse than Breeze, not a single positive aspect of the map, whoever designed it needs to be exiled from society and go live in the woods

Imo schedule should be

Feb - early March Kickoff

Late March - early April Masters 1

Mid April - early June Split 1

Early July - early August Masters 2

Late August - late October Split 2

November Champions

I need one of FNC, FUT and TH to throw in the playoffs and take the points qual spot and one of VIT or NAVI to make a miracle run cuz god I don't wanna see KC at Champs

They'd shit the bed the hardest of any team there and may not win a map

He looked like a demon in the off season and then shit the bed in VCT

This fraud hard baited me into thinking he was good by hard diffing mwzera before I realised mw was a cat with parkinsons

Bro put his entire soul into Convergence Mumbai 2023 and then fell asleep for VCT

-runneR +nAts
-Kicks +Cloud

EZ consistent Masters and Champs appearances, potential for deep runs

runneR? What is bro running from? The dementia? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Yee I feel you, marteen not having a solid Jett OR Neon really hurts their roles, plus Tomaszy doesn't seem to be able to play KJ considering they've always put Magnum on KJ despite him being their Sova player

Basically knocks Ascent, Haven and Icebox out of their map pool

Damn this aged half well half ass

TH turned out to be those guys, KC fell off hard

Nah not even zekken could deadlift Redgar, soulcas and Jamppi to a win against FNC last year, Sayf is different

Idk, Rito games are weird

In Champs 2023 NAVI got a timeout taken away because ANGE1 had snus on stage

Cuz these guys HARD CARRIED by timeout

Oh god someone recognised me in a vlr post

What have I done with my life?

Also I would like to put forth Asuna_Yukki for USA even if he did get banned

Never fucking mind

He is playing on ult orb mode

Free first kill every round

Should've just put him on Raze

SHAO SOVA CLUTCH WE ARE SO BACK !!!!1!!!1!!1!

Tbf Demon1 never really said anything funny

He basically just said fuck in interviews, t bagged and said games were easy

I mean tbf I don't think they had a reason not to try him here

The reality is that Talon have less Champs points than TS, PRX, GEN.G and DRX so their only hope of making Champs is through the playoffs, and I think their chances were so slim with the regular season roster regardless of if they beat Secret or not that they might as well take the risk with primmie and see how it works out

Cmon man, this can't be the last match the FPX core plays together

Please bro at least make a decent run to Champions