exactly why they are cooked im not talking about the org being cooked they will be here forever but the players are going jobless at least half of them

nah they are cooked the roles on that team dont make sense just not top 10 most cooked

they are a new team tho we know what their capable of if they keep improving they can defiantly make playoffs meanwhile c9 is a bottom feeder

nrg can still salvage their year they only have to beat 1 of g2 or kru and then c9 is a free win

im very sorry i have eyes. they were good last split they looked good right now though they look like they could lose to dfm

bro responded to one of my posts asking to be on my top igls list and then shat the bed completely

oh you guys are going winless too dont think i forgot about you

1. DRX

   5-0 to tier 2 in one split jesus just as everyone was saying they deserved to be at shanghai

2. NAVI

   this roster is done ange1 just got exposed as a fraud without doombros

3. ZETA

   they were never good to begin with biggest fluke team oat but they are unfathomably shit the team is lucky japan sucks so bad or all of these guys would be going jobless

4. C9

   5-1 fluke beating winless teams into 0-4 bottom feeder

5. GX

   redgar never beating the fraud allegations

6. LEV

   how are they about to fumble 5-1 and not go to playoffs

7. TL

   entire team is frauds i feel bad for the fans that have to support this org who dropped sayf for FUCKING ENZO 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

8. LOUD

   these guys have saadhak on duelist 🤣🤣🤣 aspas ruined them

9. BLD

   everyone knows they are cooked

10. TS

    just convinced their fans that they are good by fluking into 3-0 and are about to go out in the single elim once again (at least you guys made playoffs and dont have drx expectations)

yeah a lot of teams disappointed this year and were outperformed by orgs who havent had much success in the past its not a bad thing but its defiantly interesting to see

kru has come top 4 but yeah furia, mibr, and lev havent

i mean zellsis is mid mechanically he would literally tell you that himself hes not on the team for that reason he brings other things to the team. and i dont genuinely think every single sentinels fan is stupid but because they are the largest fanbase it seems that way

not all of them just the dumb ones you can literally see in this thread people admitting they didnt think sacy was good

LMFAO im not shitting on tenz im literally defending zellsis and sacy and calling out dumbass sentinels fans

vit dont need a rebuild they are making champs at most you could upgrade a player but if they get results changing too many players could be a bad thing

your clueless dawg it was nrg's round to win a 4v3 post plant against a light buy sacy runs out and gets 2 with a sheriff before he gets traded if he even gets 1 there nrg would win the round its not all these ifs and buts its a literally 1 kill that changed the map. i know assume your a sen fan and im not saying they wouldnt have won the series but that map was changed by a single kill. not even saying sen didnt deserve the win simply that sacy gets way too much hate and won them the map.

since koi, navi, m8s, and gx are cooked what rosters would you guys build if you were the management?

you are doing the thing you say your sick of because you feel like cs is harder for you. your welcome to your opinion but in coordinated play valorant is harder there is literally no argument otherwise. thats not saying cs skill ceiling is low but yes its like chess its figured out but that doesnt mean its easy to learn. valorant on the otherhand is continues to evolve and we have seen players go from super star to completely fading away because they couldnt adapt quick enough that speaks to how hard the game is that no single player can maintain staying on top for a long time. im not trying to undermine cs if you like it more good for you many people share your opinion but there is no way you can argue what im saying bc its just true.

if you feel that way good for you but valorant is a much harder game not mechanically but as we have seen with cs pros trying to come to valorant you will fall way behind if you dont keep up with the game so your assessment about skill ceiling is wrong we arent even close to the ceiling in this game yet where as cs has been figured out.

i was hopeful for them coming into this split they had played a lot of teams close but couldnt close games out and with them not taking a break i thought they would only be better but holy fuck that game against koi was so fucking bad i had to stop watching truly a disaster and even that doesnt do it justice. i dont know how its possible for a team to execute their ideas so poorly this roster needs to be blown up the only good piece is cloud and even then WHY WAS HE NOT USING HIS FUCKING GEKKO ULT ON SUNSET. also side note emea is fucked with the collapse of navi and giantx plus fnatic have a sub for their best player. only good teams in emea are TH, VIT, and maybe KC still TH are winning champs but the region as a whole is so weak its silly for how much talent their is

hasnt been released i dont think i know the north american viewership was down a lot because of the timezone but i think the chinese viewership was very high idk the numbers tho

fut is not even the biggest org in turkey and TH has more international fans plus they also carry the spanish viewership and they also have turkish players i dont see the argument for fut

bro just completely ignored my response but yeah sure you can criticize their individual decision making but that doesnt make them a bad team and its easily fixable

yeah i agree but your gonna see furia are not bad

im not very in touch with the china scene so i just went with the team with the most twitter followers who hasnt made a international debut

nahh this is wrong the best possible viewership is

Americas
SEN
NRG
LOUD
KRU

EMEA
FNC
TL
TH
KC

PACIFIC
PRX
GENG
T1
TS

CHINA
EDG
BLG
FPX
NOVA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9atNpjPEZY

round 25 such a good midround absolutely owned 100t and the gameplan in mid was so impactful too.
at least pay attention before you start talking out your ass

i remember i had them at 4 going into this year jesus was i wrong

gonna eat these words real quick

bro 100t are not sentinels they dont need a break they are motivated ash to make champs they just got complacent and thought it would be easy to maintain their top spot in the league they found out yesterday its not gonna be that easy they will get their shit together its not like a EG type of loss where sentinels lost to a shit team like obviously furia was bad before but they didnt look bad at all throughout the series their macro and site hits were good, the spacing and trading were good, the individuals looked great. the only real issue i had with how they played were the defensive set ups on haven and they had a couple of poor individual decisions which are easily fixable and ill give them a pass for haven just bc its so early into the split and it wasnt even their map pick.

lets beat a team with a win before you start acting like your team is good

idk what your ranked games look like but that aint lookin like mine i do agree that 100t did lose to themselves on haven fs and yea havoc running around knife out was rather funny happened a few too many times

not expecting it to age well lmao thats literally what i said at the start just about the most recent matches

LMAO omg they dont run it down and aim diff everyone sooooo boring 🥱🥱🥱🥱 actual bronze take

keznit and less have beef lmao

demon 1 is a 🐷 entry we defiantly dont make a change until next year and realistically the only upgrade is jawg

never seen a sen fan give us credit

both looked great what team do you think looked better

they looked solid and just came off a deep masters run give them a bit more time and it will be more clear at least they didnt collapse like sentinels after madrid

not predicting where i think the teams will finish just how good they looked from their first match excluding kru

1. G2

   i think they had some holes in their game against c9 but they adapted and patched them over the series which is great to see they look just as good as shanghai they might drop a game in the run for playoffs but on a macro level they look ahead of everyone else

2. FURIA

   WTF HOW ARE THEY THIS GOOD???? they lost first duels and still put 100t in the dirt i gotta see more before i put them higher but the turn around is insane for this team the midrounding was so good idk even whos igling but that guy is a beast and the comps they were playing are sick not to mention khalil who tf knew he had that in him.

3. SEN

   they look in form but the sunset really worried me that was a EG type collapse that was saved by sacy hero play gotta see them fix those issues before i put them higher

4. KRU

   could easily be higher we just havent seen them play i expect them to be very good tho and the additional week off is so big going into week 2

5. 100T

   i think they got too comfortable and there loss was a needed wake up call if they want to remain at the top still a close series tho and i really dont like the haven comp they played but that might just be me

6. NRG

   wildly inconsistent kinda shows the time crunch they were in to get in form but i expect with more time they will look even better

7. C9

   looked decent on defense but they were utter shit on attack that lotus attack half was embarassing

8. EG

   kinda around where i expected them to be jawg is a beast but without being deep into the split potter wont be able to help them as much

9. LOUD

   very disappointed tbh they threw so hard against EG and the micro plays were just off in that series at least saadhaks neon looked good tho

10. LEV

    fall off has to be studied these guys fucking suck as a team but are all great individuals

11. MIBR

    wasnt playing with full roster so this is to be expected but they still looked better than stage 1

nah navi were still overrated they were squeaking out wins in groups but idk fnatic are frauds so maybe an argument there but fut clear

they went 5-1in group stage and had a whole month to watch and prep for us???? no match is gonna be easy with how competitive americas is

yeah terrible decision made for literally no reason other than they thought they had to make a change and didnt want to get rid of a player now they go winless

??? we need every win to guarantee playoffs of course imma celebrate

no chance to make playoffs im pretty sure unless they winout and even then its only a small chance. so their year as a whole is a massive failure what move do they even make?? -tuyz or -pancada and who would they even pick up? its even worse if less or saadhak leave then this team is truly fucked and furia might be better than them right now but i want to see another game before i say that for sure.

meh fuck them they rooted against GenG just bc they wanted prx to lift the trophy and they glaze to the max like sen fans

prx flair makes sense

icy > net

ok but heretics sub narrative is stupid pati doesnt make them worse at all and heretics are winning champs too so idk what your expecting

g2 are a young team that keeps improving and a lot of teams underperformed to expectations in shanghai its pretty simple.

yep