And then you wake up from your wet dream ... wait, you what mate?

Wait a minute? Flukepx? Shitmea? Ohh, I see... you're malding, kido... out of your skin, malding... If you ask me, you're pathetic... but well, let it be your lesson how things eventually play out ;) Also, please keep your shitheaders to yourself because no one wants to read a bunch of crocodile tears through your mess. But please allow FPX fans to enjoy their highlight of the day. Back then, when Optic had their victory day, no one took the celebration away from them. Yet you and your wiesel-like ass is enraged to the extremes just because thing didn't play out to your favour. Why am I not surprised here, LMAO.

On the other hand, DON'T F-ING DRAGG FNS INTO YOUR CRINGEVALLEYLIKE CONVERSATIONS - he does not belong here. Pujan would never state that OPTIC are far superior to FPX right now or in general, because he's a decent guy who is typically reasonable and humble. Nor he would state something ambigous with cringe certainty like you often do. At the end of the day, he is experinced player/IGL and knows how to control his emotions by stating perfectly weighted opinions in public.

Lastly, just a little decyphering for you... By claiming in his twitter that Optic were not at their peak, Pujan is just expressing that he believes that it is somewhat his fault and that he accepts responsibility for their failure - nothing more, nothing less (learn to read between the lines, you...)

Now take your pathetic mass of a body and put it into bed... you need some good sleep tonight!

Ohh boi...

For those who were aware of him, it was always expected that he would continue to be a CRACKED superstar.

BTW... he's also CIS - First Strike Champion, for those who missed that.

As if Zyppan, Ardiis and d00mbros didn't participate in the finals or even the whole masters. Like, while it's acknowledged that certain players did slightly better than others, all of the FPX players made a tonne of jaw-dropping plays throughout the masters.

It's been a long time coming for a team that so well deserved to win the title, and they also happen to equally represent the EU-CIS regions. Let's GO FPX <3

40% HS/18k/+10 for Ange1 on Bind - Holy Captain

Please excuse me, but in what shape or form is Valorant declining? Could you perhaps be more specific and share some further, or more like any, data at all, if possible?

I swear this is getting less and less interesting.

Cough... cough... I've got you covered... It'll spare you some of your so "precious" time looking for proof: https://i.imgur.com/itjNxur.png

Not that the term "fat" is associated with anything too negative... just curious to hear her/him out

Who are you calling here random fats?

^^^ This ... Agree on generalising; it's becoming very evident that certain individuals on here deliberately engage in what they mistakenly believe is still "bantering," but they are either forget or more likely ignorant of the fact that they have long crossed the boundary between bants and pure bullying. It's a W that you brought it up here - such activity only applies to specific people of this site, not the vast majority. And no matter how unexpected as it may sound to some, members must always exercise caution when criticising a rotten sample of the population on here, because the rest of us should almost never be held responsible for whatever nonsense is on the list of "toxic topics" for the day.

Imagine stating that about a player who has 30% HS in 377 rounds on the current masters tour... Given that HS% isn't the most crucial aim component(or?) in mech-skill, you're still out of your mind for saying that.

https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1014/valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen

No hate ... but maybe you'd have a point if you defined mech-skill or properly backed your argument when comparing three IGL players. Otherwise, not close imho.

^^^This

Feed/troll on teams with subs but when CHAD player checks-in and proceeds slapping them off their HIGH SHELF ... they're all suddenly hurt and asking for mercy... Did anyone from them even bring up mutual understanding or sportsmanship? No, forget that shit ...nobody cares about that when you feel like "FLY HIGH". Nothing new tbfh ... It's just KARMA doing its humbling again. ... DISGUSTING really is

Expected W... no comments really

... >>>VLR "experts"<<< - LMAO ... judging FPX like they know anything about the game - #GRINGE

Mens are chocking on a DAILY ... nothing new here

Actually too CRCKD ... also OP holyyy skills:

https://clips.twitch.tv/AnnoyingGeniusTomatoKappaWealth-MXmLSQEqGUY5R3Jm

Dude if you don't agree with me then just gtfo - no need to get on my nerves here, pulling some weird proofs out of who knows where...

I simply tried to point out where you were wrong in your conclusions on such an such player's superiority compared to other similar players i.e. in smoker or duelist group etc.. but in return you just were being a little dick about it... I even pointed out that being BIASED is totally fine because normally we are all people and we are all biased by nature regarding some topics, however only those daumm precise numbers are going to be able to assist us avoid sliding into various states of biaseness. Yet in your reply you're still trying to convince me that in a world of probability heavy set of events which are conventianally called game/s, you can derive something meaningful by just observing the match or the player and be objectively correct? Well partially, you are correct and that's why I told you that, on here, everyone and their dog watch official live streams as well as some of us, then even have to go and watch those VODS again and again, if needed +analysing different timmings and such within those games... there's really no end to ways of analysing the data, be it visual or written-numeric - whatever. The double type approach of watching and analysing the game will also help to derive a correct conclusion on the situation, teams or the players in question, but not solely on its own without the stats.

Let me tell you again, numbers do play an utterly important role in analysing any probability heavy set of events that kids normally call games... stats especially are important when trying to rank a group of players from a similar or not group. However, as of yet you may not fully understand the meaning of word probability or how you suppose to work with differently dervied data etc but if you keep studying in school or at home, one day you may understand what I meant ;)

Wow, you make it seem like you're the only person here that watch Valorant pro-games live. Like congrats on your delusions, I suppose....
Here's what I really meant, kid: When you just rely on qualitative evidence from games that provide you with a tonne of quantitative evidence/data, you massively lose objectivity when considering the broader picture. Something that looks good for you, doesn't nessecary can be considered good to others, let alone good or priorotised to teams or structure plays.
Being subjective is completely OK, but not when attempting to analyse shit like you're trying to analise here.

In brief, ranking players in games will always involve statistics, whether you want it or not.

Here, let me try to help you clear your biased(doesn't mean bad btw) mind... speaking simply in terms of stats, here are your top smokers in ACS quant rank, starting at the top:

Marved
Boaster
Mako
mindfreak
sScary
pancada
koldamenta
Melser

One or two of the players above have fairly small sample sizes, but considering the range they now fall under in relation to other smokers, I don't think they will change significantly.

https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1014/valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen

Ouch, hits deep... actually

Oh look, someone is talking amck about some team's achievement while in reality, the team they are cheering achieved ONE BIG SQUAT, given it's their third international competition. Well done, kid. You're right there in 1Head department.

He looked very good, despite certain challenges and flaws that were reasonable, given the circumstances <3 <3 <3

Either become subzero monster like himself or ff ffs etc etc....

Besides... recalling from back in the day ... this flick of his vs NRG kaboose left me absolutely speechless - like dude whaataaa:

https://clips.twitch.tv/AffluentCalmWeaselDendiFace-0QAt527fZOsGOkS9

also his POV:

https://twitter.com/Marved6/status/1371222015764467715

Given, he plays on 244edpi or anything mid-lower sens +other factors, I have yet to see a more impressive flick in vcts imho... this kid was/is so CAPABLE as well as cold af.

this back the Watching Marved flick vs kaboose on Bind, left me speechless for a while

Let's GO <3

Aye, it is very evident they have put some quality work since their previous international..... they seem to be more tactical, organised and strict during executions, which helps them hold up better against their opponents and get those rounds. Despite their defeat today (GG though), they have a tonne of potential left in their tank as a team imho.

^^^This...

1. FPX
2. GUILD
3. FNC

Mate, I'm not sure what you're on about, but from what I could tell, Boaster/Mistic and Russ are from the UK, and both Fnatic/Guild have their headquarters in London. The top ratio of players from each nation is three players(UK, Sweden, Russia) for the three EMEA teams competing in Copenhagen, and that's without accounting for coaching staff, etc. So who's carrying who, I'd ask? If you think that British people have no voice in the pro-Valorant community, then you are seriously delusional, to put it mildly. But hey, that's nothing new for VLR... Keep hating ya noob!

He's the best Key/0 in the group stages so far... or we could say that he's NA's best Kay/0 atm - the role's most impactful player, in other words.

Another role in which he excels is Raze... He has Asuna to beat here and it's looking tight. Though, by the end of the playoffs, we should know better.

Just little bit too early to put c9 at #6... maybe stiil solid #3 spot? Then XSET at #4... LG #5, Ghost #6, Guard #7 and Faze #8 imho... then the rest.

But given that some of the teams' future matches are in your favour(for such tendency to take place), your power ranks appears to be reasonable.

Exeptional game from Nismo!

MARVED... then gMd/supamen - tight...

Ehmm... where is SKUBA? FFS, ORGS SPLASH the CASH - no-brainer (this guy is NUTS)

ggs

No, you're MISTAKEN... they WON... and instead you're being CLOWNED!

Daum solid flicking/holding oping skill, not sure if best

WP nice game

Bro, GHOST appeared to be CRACKED, and there should be no doubt about it... they are all very capable of pulling wins from whoever... GRD, on the other hand, seemed like they'd never played this comp before, imho... especially on their best map(wtf?)... as some have stated, they're getting used to new roles within the team, but why are they so daum weak... it's not the first time we've seen teams fail in the same fashion in VCTs... hopefully, it won't hurt them much

Yeah, their situation appears to be messed up.... instead should have been their old comp where neT=chamber, saya=jett and jonahp=breach... but teams, on the other hand, so enjoy outperforming themselves... and all this's happening on GRD's best map ... kinda sadge

That would be a close call ofc, but as of recent performance, suygetsu has a slight edge over nAts imho ... though generally we all know that ex-gambit players are not in their top form right now for obvious reason.

Historically, one thing to note is that both nAts and suygetsu have excelled in VCTs/MM from the beginning, competing for the title of top CIS support player. Mainly, Suygetsu used to main Killjoy whereas nAts - Cypher. And many expected to see Suygetsu face off nAts in the finals during the CIS first strike. However, back then trexx's singularity defeated Gambit in the semis to advance into finals vs Forze. In the end, Forze won CIS first strike, thanks to Suygetsu's amazing performance.

https://www.vlr.gg/6941/forze-vs-team-singularity-first-strike-cis-main-event-gf

Lately, Suygetsu continues to prove that he belongs at the top of the game with the move to FPX. Though I might still be a bit biased towards him over nAts.

Thought of why not adding Russia on here:

1ndra, Anoxai, Anq, Art1st, B1SK, braveaf, chiwawa, Chronicle, Cloud, d3ffo, Duno, Gray, hansha, HEMMORJAY, hvoya, Insider, Jady(?), Lanerinno, moner, nAts, pashapain666, purp0, Quv3n, Rarga, Redgar, Shao, sheydos, something, Sp1ke, stimx, SUYGETSU, tellfeenzo, Tian, trexx, vo0kashu, watasink, wippie, WorldEdit, xenon... +more... also Derke(can repr. Fin/Russ)

Final Russia: Shao, trexx, Chronicle, SUYGETSU, Cloud... 6th - nAts/braveaf... pipson(coach)

LMAO yes... you see these threads every time the qualifiers start... someone will ask who that player is, or such player underrated etc... Other than drawing from personal experience, I have no idea how to respond to them... Trexx had already shown or maybe finalised his ability to take on anyone while he still was playing in OG, given that skill in Valorant is improving in esports.

No, at least in Valorant, being unknown does not make a player underrated. Regionality (viewers count, etc.) is important for the advertisement because streaming platforms attract potential followers to both the player and the organisation. Trexx has long been regarded for his exceptional gameplay, stability, and carrying ability which already has been mentioned on the multiple occasions by various casters. He proved that he is a superstar, at least in my eyes <3

Bruv... this isn't about making excuses, but rather a simple observation of things for ex-gambit players as they are FFS... and it comes from someone who isn't a member of M3C or their fangroup... you don't need 5Head to understand how org framework in pro sports improve planning, funding, discipline, motivation, and so on... Come on, up a notch your brain activity

They aren't washed but rather broken atm... they require financial and organisational framework to operate at the same level as they used to.

Not going to take on usual shahzam responses, in which everyone in his universe appears to be angry and ignorant - probably for some weird reasons. But TSM, for example, is an organisation that isn't angry for no reason though actually, truly understands what's going on in the so-called "INFLATED" market. They're trying some interesting things with their roster... cough... cough... having ONE head coach... + TWO assistant coaches working together... cough ... cough... (holyyy) which, in the long term, may help them develop and reinforce their roster by establishing the proper framework, among other things.

The important thing is that TSM is finally doing it and not just talking about it like some others: "...we've had two different coaches ... we even worked with another during stage 1... but..." How about trying another 3-5 or even 7 coaches or assistants/analysts? What stops them??? Whatever really...

Agree, he's shown his worth ...also throughout his career he's been hell of a consistent player. Clear W for Optic

Dude, chill tFo, yay has outperformed aspas by a slight margin... the ACS, KD, and ADR all favour yay, so let's just give him his credit. Throughout this masters, he's been amazing and incredibly consistent.

Overall, Yay has outperformed Aspas by a slim margin... though Sayaplayer has also been excellent.

https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/926/valorant-champions-tour-stage-1-masters-reykjav-k

ggWP Optic! 🎉🎉🎉