He said there Optic/Envy skew the picture with most points for NA region ... also highest variance in falling off for NA (obv. excluding Otpic/Envy).

^^^This is something certain NA or... VLR members (not all NA members/streamers but the certain ones) DO NOT TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION when voicing their opinions on here or wherever.

All they had to do is follow VLR forums... how unusual it might not sound to some, but we have some of the TOP QUALITY threads on the topic... like this one from @anay to clear the picture and bias: https://www.vlr.gg/130378/best-region

It is always great to see high-quality, knowledge-enhancing threads posted on here!

Inb4: Sucked my mom's tits, have too much time on my hands... etc etc.

CrimsonPride's closer: "...also give stats how asuna is better than tenz. if u can't then put your moms head in ur ass." - ignoring some out of place context, this individual is asking to provide Asuna vs. TenZ stats in thread where Asuna's "averageness" and "impactfulness" is being argued.

---> Bruv, DO YOU EVEN READ?

Hello sunshine, TenZ is/was not part of this THREAD!

I up-fragged your reply above, as well as #43 - the reply you'd down-fragged... just saying ;)

If you're genuinely interested, then you could figure it out from here: https://streamscharts.com/streams?game=valorant&sortBy=peak_viewers

Full membership is not cheap ... though, you could still get a rough picture by signing in and getting your free days.

Additionally, by careful searching online, you might come across some specialised reports on the actual event day from some enthusiasts.

Note: Here's another source ... https://twitchtracker.com/games/516575

Cheers ... the game was actually amaizing in its own right... though... expected a different result, yet taking on the chin like an atta boi here ... no probs <3

...

Eddit:
DisFclaimer: Only and only for those who for f-known reason love to misinterpret... The expression that the person responded, "taking on the chin like an atta boi here" - meant that the person in question is going through a DEFEAT mood/feeling/boner anything you name it... mainly because he originally backs FPX. Thanks!

Please refrain from giving that statement a BS interpretation! Thanks.

^^^Spoiler part though - overly revealing... imho

Excellent performance from XSET; excellent HW preps, without a doubt... Nailing Breeze and general form = completely deserved the victory... coming from FPX supporter <3

Ohh look who's late to the party... CrimsonPride himself?
Please forgive me for always mistaking your nickname with CringePrat; I can't help it.

So ...

How many more posts from various OPs on here have you copied in replies to them already, in the belief that you are being so UWU clever?

OR

On the more healthier note, don't go that DEEP with me... you won't last.

Listen, I simpy pointed out where you were wrong in saying Asuna - impactless and a very average player ... during his Berlin masters ... nothing more or less. Don't mold such great players with your shitty fingers, bruv... And BTW...

If you didn't want to read "all of that" and that and so on... then ---->>> G.T.F.O

"STFU TenZ owns him anyway." - Well, In which dream of yours TenZ owns him, the lucid or the wet one?

I do agree with Trick on that, though... nothing contradicts in his words ... this is exactly where I wanted to correct the OP as he is way off here... it is simply the shortest format as I can't get into a report as it will be unneeded here ... Just to make clear that I don't talk about KD directly ... it's only FKPR that I raise for a duelist and that is a crucial indicator wich the OP failed to see which is not surprising though ... but I also agree with Trick, as in team tact games there are roles played and not always one will be fragging left and right, to achieve a perfectly playable situation for their team's win.

Whether your observations were intended to be accurate or merely a shitpost, you must be insane or brain dead to classify Asuna at LAN as impactless and average (see #14). Please forgive me but I'll follow with a rather long breakdown below...

1. Average:
   Out of 78 players, the averages for that masters in Berlin - 194ACS and 132ADR. Asuna achieved scores of 247ACS and 157ADR, placing him in the tournament's TOP5 and TOP12 spots, respectively. He was no way near average on the LAN - though, basing your argument off term - "average," which meaning you clearly fail to uderstanding, reveals alot about your thought process.

2. Impact:
   Asuna placed 3rd–4th in the competition with a 0.22FKPR (first kill per round; FK/RND) rate. His performance is among TOP4 (shared with YAY) of the entire competition in this category. Only 3 players have acheived better scores while also played fewer rounds - therefore their score may eventually level off when more rounds were played. --> cough ... cough ... shitting on certain players you're indirectly shitting on others too ;) HOWEVER...

Asuna's TOP4 in FKPR is an actually an exceptionally high and respectable result for a duelist in INTL LAN appearance which should have cleared any doubts about his crucial influence on the game as a duelist, if there were any ofc. Claiming that he is impactless is simply wrong by way too many wrong estimations (you already showed us how much you know about "averages"... no more comments). Where in reality FKPR, together with ACS/ADR, actually do reveal us a good shre of an impact of a player in question on the game. How could you fail to see that is out of my understanding ... or maybe you could share a better indicators of a great impact on the game?

3. Result:
   If you can't look at historical data and make sense of it, let alone draw valid conclusions about some pro's impact in the game, either you are unable to work with estimations or you should really stop trying because it is simply not your field - tbh even for a shitpost, it was a low grade attempt... but whatever.

I'll leave you with the link below in regards to who carried who; who knows, maybe something positive will come of it, instead of shitting on a well deserved - respectful players: https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/466/valorant-champions-tour-stage-3-masters-berlin?exclude=&min_rounds=0&agent=all

LMAO... why am I laughing to this... Ican't :lurkemode:

Glad to help ;)

One thing, the mice I mentioned above are all ergonomic in design and, generally speaking, fall within the allowable deviation from model D's size range to be considered as its replacement without compromising on shape/size for the players.

Though if you feel like you still need a more accurate view/comparison, then try: https://www.rtings.com/mouse/tools/3d-model-shape-compare?

or

https://www.eloshapes.com/index.html?mouse=Razer%20DeathAdder%20V3%20Pro&mouse=Glorious%20Model%20D%20Wireless&mouse=VAXEE%20OUTSET%20AX&mouse=Zowie%20EC2-C
...

Edit: Added another source for mice shapes comparisons.

Unfortunately, r/MouseReview is flooded with complaints concerning gaming mice made by Glorious. One of the most common complaints from consumers was and continues to be the disconnection issue (all range of their mice, actually).

However, if you enjoy its ergo shape, you might want to consider some other mice like the latest Razer Deathadder V3 PRO, Pulsar Xlite V2 or V2 mini, Skoll Mini SK-S ACE, Zowie EC2-C, EC3-C or Vaxee OUTSET AX. All of the listed products are better than Glorious in terms of general QC/internals and, are excellent choices for any serious gamer as each of them has previously established a solid reputation among the pros - also goes in hand with the enthusiasts of the gaming industry.

It's obviously OK if atm you can't spend money on a new mouse, but thing won't become better with Glorious until they completely rewrite the internals for all of their mice ... this stupid issue with their mice has been going on, seems like forever, yet they haven't listened to the feedback from the usres, let alone done anything to fix it - a massive red flag for any serious mice consumer!

Wish you all the best!

EDIT: Typo: light -> flag

+1 and W for the potential ORG ... Moose is cracked... As per recent performances, he has made some significant improvements, which speaks plenty about his commitment to the game.

Solid additions to the team... congrats and good luck!

The problem can be identified using "WhoCrashed," ... also the same DEVS offer free of charge "LatencyMon," which may assist you further in optimising your system. But make sure you know how to use them by looking them out online or however you choose to as there are couple of nuances you need to know beforehand.

One more thing, especially in WIN11(though not as much in WIN10... but still), if Discord (DS) is being used during Valorant, then you should preferably set the following in DS -> settings -> voice & video -> switch off "debug logging" ... and similarly in DS settings -> advanced -> switch off "hardware acceleration." - just some recent working fixes for DS.

Lastly, try to reproduce the condition that existed at the time of the crash and then deduct one at the time, asking... "were there any other apps open while Valorant was running, such as DS or the browser and so on?" If... then, "Could some of those app's driver(s) or service(s) cause the clash/issue?" This way, you may eventually encounter system-specific issues that are only unique to your current setup +"LatencyMon" app will help you in that as it goes in hand with similar "top-down" system investigations.

Still the number of potenial causes could be large... Best of luck!

EDIT: Added DS temp fixes and some suggestions.

Dex is obviously correct, though: Ayrin and Marved cannot be included in the same impact group when discussing best players of the region (such as the smoker group, etc.). I don't wish to offend either Ayrin or you; I'm merely stating a critical opinion. Players like Marved deserve respect and recognition simply because they have demonstrated that they are quite exceptional/consistent in their roles for a long time. I'm surprised you didn't bring up any other players, like Supamen... when NA Smokes cluster is taken into consideration, they should be mentioned. Also, lots of the finest players are absent from the conversation in other regions (i.e. such as EMEA). Players like nAts are not looked at at all. But I'll leave that at it as the task is quite vast and not the easy one.

Recent Marved/Ayrin performances:

• https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1014/valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen
• https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/800/champions-tour-north-america-stage-2-challengers

A little historic note...

Around this time, dual-smoker comps began... the Bind map from FPX vs. FNC:

https://www.vlr.gg/7100/sumn-fc-vs-funplus-phoenix-first-strike-europe-main-event-sf/?game=11890&tab=overview

It then spread to further teams. It is said to have started with FPX in scrims, but SUMN FC (FNC today) swiftly perfected it. Also, SUMN FC was referred to as mini FPX (or budget FPX) back in the day since majority of their strats were quite similar to those used by FPX at the time. SUMN FC, nevertheless, still did a great job in achieving success in general.

Today, dual-smoker comps are widely used by many teams across all regions.

Thanks; excellent work - a key conclusion of the overall picture so far ... needed for this website.

6'1, 220lbs... 13%bf ...if helps

edit: waiting in a long line
...LMAO

TSM has won four of the four games they've played this year against 100T - actually... a pretty impressive record from TSM.

Excellent reading... Great supporter. Good luck tomorrow!

"They were all super motivated grinders and seemed really wholesome (Saya especially)." <3

LVPes2
ru_VALORANT
valleague_fr
valorantleague_dach
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All of the above are streaming G2 vs. Liquid right now.

Who are you, again? What a cringe kid ...

haha got you! Are we being mad or actually trying to flex here, cringe boi?

Revlon get your sorry ass outta here... nadda legit boi... be riding cringe

all day long

nvm... this kiddo is known for his delusions

kid, u'r trippin

Well... Thank you

It's utterly ridiculous to see that neither Faze nor 100T can attack on one of the game's first maps. I'm talking about how Ascent map vs. Faze played out with 19W for defence and only 3W for attack... And it's just Faze that won all three rounds on the attack... What's up with 100T's attack on Ascent? And why 5 pro players +pro coaching staff can't make a decent play from their attacking side? This is just unacceptable at this level, though same applies to Faze. That's all there is to it... https://www.vlr.gg/123327/faze-clan-vs-100-thieves-champions-tour-north-america-last-chance-qualifier-ubsf/?game=93487&tab=overview

Also, based on some recent observations, 100T has to tighten up their defence on Haven and Icebox if they wish to defeat their opponents on those maps.

Not a fact! Where's Curry and where's Will? It looks more like Will = Mitch than what you stated from the below stats page:

https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1130/champions-tour-north-america-last-chance-qualifier

With the addition of Jady, M3C are looking scary... can't wait to see

But someone would say, "Derke is edging out Yay on Chamber": https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1014/valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen?exclude=12560.12561.12562.12563.12564.12565.12566.12567&min_rounds=0&agent=chamber ... and they'd be correct ... by a small margin but still...

^^^That is, of course, if we said in approximate terms and ignored the difference of rounds played (-80) between the two. However, up until somewhere over a 1k+ rounds were played (more=better ofc), neither Yay's, nor the total rounds played by any other masters contestants, would give us a reliable sample for any thorough head to head rating.

Time period glimpses such as short/instant masters events in general will always remain just glimpses - should be viewed as a possible periods of assessment for teams/players ... Perhaps a lengthier, season like league environment would bring us closer to accurately ranking any players in question, given that both compete there against each other as well as the same opponents. Up untill then, things will always remain ambigous, especially when ranking up players that statistically perform close to each other throughout different occasions - our time period here.

P.S. I can't say much about Derke against. FPX with the sub other than Derke's ability to perform well and SEIDER's reasonably solid form vs. Derke in duels: https://www.vlr.gg/112321/fnatic-vs-funplus-phoenix-valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen-ubqf/?game=all&tab=performance - PERFORMANCE TAB!

I know you're talking about OPTIC as a team and not only Yay's sole effort here... Just trying to emphasize Optic's team effort in general that lead them towards their final placement.

Though #29 FoechiGG's response to Leo vs Optic holds some truth. From their first clash, Leo dominated all Optic players across all duels except Marved, who he failed to outkill by one frag to equalise their score throughout all duels.

https://www.vlr.gg/112282/optic-gaming-vs-guild-esports-valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen-opening-a/?game=all&tab=performance in PERFORMANCE TAB

Aye, we've heard that...

In fact, it is so lame that it not only continues to dominate in international VAL but also lives rent free in your already peanut-like brain. Perhaps allocating its rent-free status inside your back door would be a better solution?

Think about it ;)

I mean he isnt incorrect as that's from the champs but if you love numbers then here's one more for you:

https://www.vlr.gg/event/stats/1014/valorant-champions-tour-stage-2-masters-copenhagen

I'd guess if you gave Derke 100+ rounds to equal Yay's round count, they'd still be in the same places to eachother, or Derke would be higher because he'd done it before, as in the champions one above... Both are fine in my opinion, but the margin speaks for itself... Just my two cents...

Lame troll LMAO ... actually

You are just delusional ... calling "shitmea" while scoring that M3C flair... I mean bruvvv, you're reaching those new hights, kid

Frankly, I don't get it - Are you somewhat challenged or something?
Like people on here support either one or many regions equally, or maybe they just enjoy watching Valorant all together while having a great time without bs? The regional bull cap that you're pushing on here exists only in your little, peanutlike brain ...and does not apply to all members equally, speaking of delucions.

Besides, everything I have said up to this point without even mentioning your location, regions, or anything else other than asserting your fundamental incapacity to engage with others on here, should communicate to you something about me, no? Yet, you're still on the topic like a true chump. Well done!

P.S. LMAO... and you still don't get THE HINT, do you? The CRINGE is STRONG in you, kid... STRONG AF - not even capping on here ;)

What a SALTY, little weasel you are...

Yeah, dumbo, the fact that I was born in NA certainly has no bearing on your peanutlike brain. I mean, why would you be able to comprehend such concepts in the first place?

P.S. You still didn't get it, did you?

First, On VLR, one does not simply make an educated guess about its members' flags-locations... you must first ask them**.

Second, sometimes, especially in today's age of globalisation, people have to reside in different places across the world, therefore selecting the proper flag as their present location is never a mistake - this is how I personally roll on forums.

And last, is there anything else you'd like to flex on me, so that I could, again and again, educate you on on the matter and show you how cringely off you are? Please, don't be shy, kido ;)

Merriam-Webster's definition of the idiom "thick skin": the antonym of thin skin:
an ability to keep from getting upset or offended by the things other people say and do.

This^^^ As long as it helps you in the comprehension of specific, useful terms. I don't usually ignore situations when I can be of help. But bruvvv... really?

--> Now, please stay on the topic and please continue to enlighten me on which REGION you were talking about when you mentioned, "shroud owns ur region?"

To be honest, I don't understand... coping with what? Are you seriously assuming that my skin is thinner than your pp? Or are you actually that new to the internet, let alone forums?

Besides, Shroud is from NA... so am I ... What region are you referring to?

Oh, I see we're barking at the flag now. How low....how low... :NotLikeThis:

Hey, I value your and everyone else's time and opinion on this site, and I will always attempt to be as honest and objective as possible in my responses to you and others. However, if you chose to write something braindead and unfunny, you will get something braindead and unfunny in return - the nature of the beast.

On the more encouraging side of things, there's no need to get salty about it... you simply DEAL WITH IT, kid ;)

This take is disgustingly good tho ... LMAO

STOP DREAMING CRINGE! It's school time ;)

P.S. You still didn't get it, did you?

It's all good; no worries <3