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He ain't even a top 10 duelist for champs lol I'm pretty sure only jinggg had a worse duelist performance out of the opening matches

j0nggg

Heretics are probably going to do everything in their power to never play Ascent at an international again lol

jonahp

This take makes no sense, Life is the one that's been struggling recently not KangKang

h0r0t0cs

G2 played out of their mind against PRX. There's no way they lose this.

TEC is the slowest, most boring team in China with little firepower compared to the other Chinese teams + zero new ideas and a duelist igl.

Sayaplayer's replacement?

FPX played better against TH than SEN did against GENG. I don't even see how they'll beat FPX, let alone the other two teams to make it out.

Whole team aside from Mindfreak was terrible yesterday, no doubt about it. Something might've mastered Jett but this dude was dying with nearly full util, not using his smokes to enter site or block off angles. Forsaken on the flash initiator isn't great either. He completely fumbled while playing Sova and there was literally no utility to support his duelists when he played Kayo. First time I've seen with my own eyes the 'jack off all trades is a master of none' argument ring true for him. Davai was completely checked out, dying with full utility, making the worst plays I've ever seen with some of his peaks. Disaster of a team right now.

When CGRS was with them

Now that we've seen the form of all 16 teams from the opening matches, who do you see getting grouped? I'm gonna say

A: BLG and KRU
B: SEN and TH
C: TLN and VIT
D: PRX and FUT

poopoo rex

jinggg

-j0nggg
+ard11s
ez champs 2025 win

the solution to all of your problems

I'd argue Sayf should be quite lower. I'm a fan of his but he was outclassed by nearly every member of TE lol. He had a solid performance but hardly remarkable considering his role. He had 7 fks and 11 fds. Trexx was unbelievable though.

Team Secret

ping pong jonggg

FUT script: play well against bottom feeder tier 3 emea teams -> get ass whooped by the actual good emea teams -> underwhelm on the big stage

Most people feel they have to put KangKang in a top 10 list because of his insane stats regionally, but Smoggy deserves equal recognition.

jinggg is done bro

They peaked a long time ago bro

They might beat EDG depending on EDG's current form, it's always been pretty close between them. I don't see PRX beating FUT.

He is a GOAT I can't deny it

Primmie unironically, his inexperience might be an issue but you can't get worse than jingg right now

True, I have no doubt that f0rsaken would be performing better if the teamplay wasn't shit. He's a top 2 player for them because of his flexibility but I'm just adding what I saw today.

They're absolutely not beating G2 so they better hope to face EDG in the lowers, they seem to have EDG's number

p0nggg

pinggg

Dropping their controller is not going to fix the problems

We all know J0nggg's agent pool is a serious problem right now but I've seen plenty of people mention the coaching staff being at fault as well. The strats, playstyle and discipline is not good right now. I'll add that f0rsaken hasn't looked great recently either and he had some noticeable fumbles today.

At this point I think the double duelist on Lotus is a fucking troll comp. Why are you playing Jett on Lotus? For what purpose?

Holy shit there is no way j0nggg can keep getting away with these performances kek this dude is becoming a paycheck thief

Vook is actually a good controller player as well

Why are people overrating EDG again? There's no real reason to assume they'll do good this time around. I want to see them avenge their previous performances but I'm not going to be shocked if they don't.

The best they've looked all year was during Stage 1 and they bombed in Shanghai. After is gone but it's not like there's a 'new' coach, hasn't Muggle been assistant coach for ages?

Actual one team region

-kicks
+patitek for your flex
-runner
+hiro for your sentinel
Vitality would actually look insane on paper

Anyone else feel like Talon will cook them?

Honestly Trexx deserved to be on the top 10 lists over wo0t. I feel like wo0t was only put over him due to the couple insane games he had in Shanghai. Trexx has been arguably the best initiator in EU, only Riens might clear him.

W take

Both teams were very good on Ascent but Trace looked better. Sunset seems to be Vit's best map and they definitely outclassed TE on it. Bind was interesting because Trace's strats with their unique comp were actually great. One of the better Deadlock teams I've seen.

Kicks is shit btw.

Dude actually lost and changed the topic

Thank you, I really need the money right now

what is a sushiboy

Frost overcooks sometimes but he has elevated players that honestly aren't THAT great to make an international and do very well regionally. It's similar to what Potter tried to do with this years EG roster (a not-so-great roster that nearly made champs due to great coaching).

I think Sentinel on Bind just isn't necessary anymore from what I've seen across every region, double initiator feels like the meta and Viper gives you so much value even with the nerfs.

I don't know which team started this trend but it actually needs to stop