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flawless cn roster

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#1
7oblivion

Kankang duelist
Vo0kashu senti + iso
Kai full time senti
Slowly intiator igl
Smoggy smoke

#2
Ronyko23
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kk duelist
Cb flex
guan g sent
ezeir smokes
slowly ini igl

basically give nova any perma entry duelist.EVen overheat merchant life gonna work as long as he can entry. Hell i'll even take ninebody💀💀

#3
7oblivion
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nice one sounds like a whole nova fix tho

#4
Ronyko23
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Slowly is def getting into top teams radar. Can't waste another year in tyloo.Can Fix most top cn teams.

#6
Koreymi
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There is no ways people dont believe in chichoo senti. Also slowly is not a good igl. Great player but his igling is not that good

#30
Shuaaaa
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Would be a great pickup for EDG if he can secondary call then

#31
Koreymi
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Yes, slowly to EDG might be the best roster move upgrades ever, kai to nova is also up there

#10
Drakath
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I have said this beofre nova with a perma duelist is a CN superteam, I would say KAI is perfect get him out of trace and put him in NOVA

#13
Koreymi
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Everybody been saying to get obone out and kai in

#17
Ronyko23
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I'll even take feng f tbh. Can't play jett but not gonna matter much. Coz his kj is way better than obone.

#19
Zeron
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this roster would feed families

#5
Koreymi
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Zmjjkk duelist
Chichoo sentinel
Ezeir/smoggy smokes (depending on form)
Nobody intiator (igl)
Slowly flash intiator

#7
Ronyko23
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EDg isn't fair team. If they can get slowly.

#12
Koreymi
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Yeah if they get slowly its actually cheating

#8
7oblivion
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lets be real vo0kashu is the better senti and even if nobody is a better igl slowly has way better firepower

#11
Koreymi
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no bro he isnt 💀 chichoo literally was the best player in bangkok, and a contender for champs mvp theres no way you think vo0kashu is better.

Also fire power isnt everything. You need a good IGL to carry you through games. EDG have had years of firepower yet are not able to win until their igl got good

#14
7oblivion
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currently vo0kashu is way better even tho his team isnt it i think its 50 50

#15
Koreymi
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What has vo0kashu done to make you think he is better? Chichoo has way better achievements, perfomances, experience I dont see the vision

#18
7oblivion
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achivement doesnt really correlates when you compare two players in raw skills the 5 times vo0kashu and chichoo went against each other chichoo only diffed him ONE time it was never even close in terms of stats and vo0kashu didnt get to play at masters not his fault

#22
Koreymi
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Achievement does matter. Chichoo has brought years of success to edg. Winning a trophy requires all of your players to be good. Its proves player quality. Its proves you can work in a system. For example someone like stew is insane but he is a horrible systematic player and incredible immature. Which are important factors to consider when talking about a player.

A reason why someone like vo0kashu can frag so well is because he doesnt need focues to comm that much, he doesnt need to be that discplined. He has 1 goal and that is too kill, that is what happens to a player who cant speak the language that well.

Look at chichoo, he is a super vocal player, and likes to shot call a lot on his lurks, which brings edg a ton of success. These are factors you need to consider, just because player A frag better than player B doesnt mean player A is better.

Next Chichoo has played better in scenarios that matter, chichoo has been on top of the world, in the spot twice. Vo0kashu has never come close to being number 1 in the world. Even in china vo0kashu is yet to claim the number spot once let alone in the world.

Vo0kashu also completely lacks international experience, he has only been to 1 major where he immediatly got eliminated, so vo0kashu doesnt top chichoo there, who has been through and experience top tier teams from around the world, experience how to play against the players from different regions. Something vo0kashu still has to learn

#26
7oblivion
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Voka didn't make it to INT because he didn't have help, while Chichoo did.We ca n't really say much about that. Even though he never played for INT, Voka has been performing much better than Chichoo in CN VCT for quite some time now, with more experience. No, Voka does NOT just have one job, which is to "kill," because there's no way they would put him in a sentie role if that was the case. It’s a tie because he is 1-4 against Voka, which simply proves that he can outperform people who made INT, like Chichoo. So, saying that Voka didn't make it to INT doesn’t make sense. That’s why his achievements don’t necessarily put him above Voka, because this is a TEAM game.

#33
Koreymi
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Vo0kashu has made it to an international and he did okay. Chichoo also has MUCH better stats internationally than domestically, its not fair to only use chichoo's domestic stats, when the rest of his team is also sucking it up. Put chichoo in as many 1v4 positions as vo0kashu and naturally he will frag more in CN. International stats matter the most, who cares if someone like fengf was the first to reach 1000 regional kills if he cant put those numbers internationally, who cares if lysoar was top 10 in cn domestically if he cant even go positive in his best international tournament.

Vo0kashu's role is also absolutely to just frag, he legit plays haven garage every round taking duels to make it a 4v5 for DRG, he is on senti, because thats his best role. DRG and other CN teams with non chinese commers have publicly said they just let their players do their thing, while the rest of the team plays the macro.

Chichoo was the best player in the world twice. Vo0kashu hasnt been the best player in CN once, this shouldnt be a debate, Chichoo is legit in contention to be the best player in the world right now.

#36
7oblivion
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So chichoo is the better player cause he had a team that helped him reach masters and champs and play 25 more matches in int than him? Vo0ka has been better before stage1. chichoo isnt getting outperformed by him for fun in domestic voka is just the better than him. international or not they are playing against the the same players. chichoo has yet to even up the score with this guy. youll only talk about internationals cause thats the only domain where he doesnt have to face him 🤣 https://www.vlr.gg/event/1880/china-evolution-series-act-3-heritability/open-qualifier-group-f BETTER THAN HIM SINCE 2023 JUST PACK IT UP DUDE 😭🙏

#16
Bigfish
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chichoo clears bro

#20
7oblivion
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they played against 5 times vo0ka diffed him 4 times and it wasnt close trust me he doesnt 🙏 chichoo winning champs doesnt makes him better either voka has way more experience

#43
SnorlaxEnjoyer
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this

#9
FrenchToast
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the chichoo disrespect is crazy

#21
7oblivion
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i swear its pure fact voka is just a better chichoo without trophy he diffed him 4/5 they play against and it wasnt close ☠️

#23
Ronyko23
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Guys this isnt chichoo disrepect if anyone wants vookashu better shooter over him.Chichoo is third best shooter in his own team when kk & smoggy are on peak form.

#24
Koreymi
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no. Chichoo was the best player in bangkok. Smoggy isnt close to chichoo at his peak. Only kangkangs grandfinal performance is arguable to being better than chichoo but thats also because kangkangs grandfinal performance is THE BEST PERFORMANCE by any player ever

#25
Ronyko23
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Best player & best shooter both are differnt tbh. ON god chichoo is one of the bestplayers. But no way he is aim diffing smoggy or kk. Vookashu also belong to that shooter category. chichoo better sent players for sure. Its like alfa nats on sent. We know alfa is better shooter but nats is better player.Just gonna depend on pref.

#34
Koreymi
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When you say shooter, are you talking about frags or aim?

Because nobody would have one of the best pure aim on EDG but he ranks as the 4th best fragger.

Also either way chichoo is better than both, just look at champs 24 and bangkok. Observe what he is doing to peoplep

#27
7oblivion
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they will never accept it

#28
kankel
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chichoo > kai and its perfect

#29
7oblivion
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fair one a lil close tho

#32
trikecycle
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Spring > kk and its fixed

#35
charleser
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CHICHOO clears Kai on senti tbh, Kai's an outstanding player but in that role CHICHOO looks more comfortable

#37
7oblivion
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chichoo clears kai on sentinel but does he clears kai?

#41
tiyoe
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doesn't matter lmfao. chichoo's role is senti and part time controller. does it matter if chichoo clears kai if chichoo is the better senti. and kai is inconsistent. Your argument makes no sense.

#38
EndMePleaseUwU
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Don't forget my boy HDMI

#39
Ronyko23
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Tyloo roster isnt that bad tbh. slowly hfmi & ninebody. They got unlucky with tough group.

#42
snowconedeity
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slowly ezeir guang core would feed families

#46
7oblivion
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WIN OR LOSE I LOVE HOW RIGHT I WAS

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