It happened before, in League. It was called the LCS Academy. It was honestly, not good.
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It happened before, in League. It was called the LCS Academy. It was honestly, not good.
You're comparing the different cultural values and upbringing between two vastly different regions. Yes, that doesn't excuse the willingness to learn and etc, but the societal values are way different between us both.
Not saying it's the same for all Japanese, but still.
I mean I'm surprised they JUST kept Melo because Astell did have something up so he had to leave iirc. If anything I thought they would've brought a third mind to help NLights because it's clear the ideas were there, but execution is horrible.
I don't mind if they had kept NLights
all good tho you're angry at the staff and I'm kinda too
NorthernLights is a carryover from CR. He was with Astell, and not because of Melo. If anything, get Melofovia out bc NLights needs a better support for him because he's so young.
Because it's compensating for the original 6 (now 5 thanks to flexible slots) regions that got combined.
ID
PH
VN
TH
MY/SG
PH
So basically a Play-In scenario happens when only one team from Americas gets relegated to Ascension or out of it entirely (in this case, 2G). In this case, the #3 seed from LATAM, NA, and Brazil gets invited to play in a single round robin group.
If there's only one Ascension team, then only the winner of Play-In moves on to the Swiss Stage. If there's no Ascension teams, then the top 2 moves on.
https://valorantesports.com/en-US/news/introducing-ascension-americas-2025
https://www.vlr.gg/event/2534/vct-2025-americas-ascension
Certain words, especially for someone that's bilingual can always jumble someone's perception of the language.
Mixing languages and words aren't a novel thing, especially when there's a lot of borrowed words and someone using it in a second or third language.
Ah right, keep forgetting they're South teams.
LEV and KRU would count as LATAM teams and potentially go to the hypothetical North division like how LATAM teams are in LTA.
yall are doomposting. I just forgot to set it to featured. Move on.
Offseason during Chengdu, then it's just a matter whether or not they could maintain their momentum.
Like I said on my own post; I agree about representation, but is it worth it when there is one more year until the first partnership cycle is finished and the evaluation begins?
50/50 chance either they stay or get reconsidered. Representation isn't enough when they're already far too deep into it. If they continue on post-2027 then by all means.
I'd like them to go bold either way.
It's not a matter of money either. Their best bet in Thailand (practically Pacific's second home) or Vietnam.
The problem primarily if you wish to move the league to SEA can be boiled down to:
I think it can be boiled down to how the majority of Asia (that includes regions like SEA) that heavily value national representation due to how a lack of representation of them on the international stage, especially in a global PC esports scene like Valorant (and insert other national sports teams here).
When we heavily pride ourselves of being from that region in particular, naturally we would want to see homegrown talents from said region to be seen on a global stage. Representation comes first, performance second.
That's the true Achilles Heel of our regional mindset as a whole. When people want their country to be seen, is it worth the potential drop or rise in performance? SA is already troubled with pings and an isolation in scrims since the inception of the Conquerers Championship all the way in 2021. I've seen the amount of good talents there, it's just the matter of getting the talent out of the bubble.
Er, no, they're an affiliate team. They're allowed to participate because they're not an official academy team, they just carry the name of BBL via partnership. Once they're onto Ascension, they should be participating under PCIFIC again.
ASCENSION TEAMS RISE
SLOWLY AGENDA WILL RISE
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Slowly agenda will rise.
Unc Sword9 will stunt.
You do realize it's being played in another city, where venue setup, logistics setup, as well as travelling across the country which also will ultimately result in a bootcamping situation affects the dark days in between?
It's accounting if Boom or NS both get relegated into playing Ascension, so that's why there's two flexible slots.
Put some respect on Z1yan too because he stuck it as much as stew has in JDG besides the long members
Yes, if both BOOM and NS don't get relegated to Ascension, the slot will be given to SEA.
If you ask if that's a lot, it's not.
It's the compensation for the six dissolved region: TW/HK, MY/SG, TH, VN, PH, and ID.
It gives flexibility for both SEA and the current Ascended teams.
Yeah, but it means more towards Reject since I think if Riddle wins, RC auto qualifies over QTD, but if RID lost RC will be tied in points
Rushia is a no-brainer for China. If you haven't seen the kid played, he's just cerebral
Yes to the first one
They just need either qualify for playoffs or stay in Top 8 of Champ Points in order to have the Ascension safety net
Link is fixed! You can properly access it now.
Bigtime's British??? There's also Komodo???
In my opinion, the most extreme way is to split it how even League did it before pre merger era with the LJL considered a Tier 1 league, equalling its status - however, that does mean potentially separating regions like Korea and APAC as well to compensate.
Because I'm not from Japan nor am I a definitive expert, but from what I've seen so far following the scene is somehow professionalize the Tier 2 ecosystem even further, that means putting more strict measures, ruling, and qualifications. Build from the ground up with more capable staffing who can support the players even more.
We're seeing new growths like Delight, Crest, even BC SWELL. It's just how many more orgs are willing to invest.
this is a good read.
TL;DR Tier 1 talent in Japan is effectively bottlenecked with the amount of complications with new orgs coming in with less standards, complicated stipulations and the amount of support Tier 2/Challengers have domestically that sometimes outweigh the possibility of going up to being signed with the likes of ZETA or DFM/CR.
Indonesia being the biggest potential market is because the lack of Indonesian streamers and support since the exclusivity compared to the other regions; like you said, seemingly the Thai viewership were more willing to give SOOP a chance; most Indonesians didn't.
While there's an argument the EN (and other local language) viewership could've also been prioritized, having Indonesia opened to multi-streaming to (in all certainty a business decision) reclaim the viewership of the Indonesian fans in particular meant that any potential changes in the future hinges on whether or not this experiment succeeded.
Biggest potential market and honestly I'd argue we were the most vocal against the exclusivity
Literally stuck/thriving (depends on what your angle is) in Challengers due to contracts (and the amount of popularity/money being more enticing there compared to playing in Tier 1)
PRX picked Lotus it's joever for DFM
DFM's Lotus is 0-5. Never doubted them.
I don't care if it's against ZETA for now or if they lost this match
Oh my god I'm seeing shades of old CR returning without the LAN choke problems.
Calmer calling, more decisive rotations and engagements, they don't get flustered so easily- I don't care if it's against ZETA for now or if they lost this match, but you can see how much more COMFORTABLE the players are with their plays.
Most likely spread out, but Akame did have IGL experiences back when he's in Reject. Jinboong has done calling before too but I'd lean to Akame.
....we have RBHG, SOOP Valorant League, and Project Blender already announced so far. And it's not called the OFF//SEASON anymore, it's now the Partner Series.
Not even related since he's talking about T2 - there are legitimately popular domestic orgs in Japan like Riddle and Fennel. Even Reject and NOEZ FOXX has some good engagements behind them.
Also in general, Challengers in Japan is always a show.
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