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It's also not just about potential gamers not even playing, but about potential pros who don't consider it a viable option, or at all. There is probably a good amount of non-male talent that don't try to go pro or aren't even aware it's possible for them to. That's one of the big benefits of game changers and the spotlight it brings.

It's actually sad that people think baiting is a good use of their time.

Bro let 2024 happen first lol

i dont need money
i dont need food
i dont need water
i dont need a girlfriend

all i want is PRX winning everything and Jinggg please just give me that i would change my money for it

This is such an L take, just don't let ScreaM IGL and you're fine. Also, Nivera is underrated asf he's actually really good. Bro's an Omen op god.

lol true

I didn't realize I should be going at other fan bases for no reason, especially in the off-season. Lmao people on this site are really something.

Didn't ask tbh but good for you I guess.

Nah bro are you fucking dumb? Like how does me saying not everything is a competition, mean I don't like competition? I love it, but sometimes there's just no need for it.

Bro literally no one asked, like genuinely how do EMEA fans always find some way to mention how many trophies EMEA has? Legit get a fucking life, holy shit, not everything is a competition.

PRX is going to be good, it just might feel a little different with Monyet instead of Jinggg. Both are good players, but they play differently, and that'll change how PRX plays too.

yay

WenZ

Lobster Fishers gonna go crazy in challengers next year

What if none of them know and it's attacking their ego so bad, that they pretend to know? They string everything along while saying "Hey we know, but the surprise will be great, just wait." Only for them to be also surprised at whatever move yay does.

15k posts is crazy, like how do you even get there? lmao

Bro fr, like just say what you wanna say, the forum is literally for that exact purpose.

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eeiu - $3
aproto - $2
jakee - free
Sean Gares - $4

Total: $13 (Let me cook fr)

Because either a mixed team already exists and needs to bootcamp, or a mixed team is being formed and they want to play together.

Well, my point was not about people in sexual or romantic relationships, but either way, for the purposes of boot camping with your team, you should be able to manage living with players of another gender.

Bro, it's literally just understanding how your teammates play and being able to communicate in-game, it's really not that deep lol.

No ik, but I'm just saying that it would be sad if that were the case.

Well yeah obviously some people are going to be weird, but that doesn't mean that no team can make this situation work.

Men should be able to have the restraint to not attempt sex with just any woman, especially someone they're living with.

I don't think you're misunderstanding my point. I do agree that the connection within your gender is different and can often bring you closer than other connections, but it's not like that's the only way in which people can connect. Plenty of people have close friends of other genders, and yeah I get it, that's a different thing, but for the purposes of team chemistry I don't see how a close friend connection can't be good enough.

Yeah but is it not kinda weird to suggest that male players can't live with non-male players? Like I swear some people of different genders room together in college and it works for them. Plus, it's their job, like imagine a team failing because a male player couldn't handle living around a woman, lol.

No, but I think the problem is that the goal should not be to stay in GC. It should be used as a transitionary period while you build team chem, improve strategies, and get experience. I think the goal should always be to make challengers, just like any other team's goal is.

'i dont mean it as a gender" If that's the case then you literally proved yourself wrong because then that kind of connection can be built regardless of gender.

But I do get what you're saying, as in that connection does exist, and is gendered. However, I'm still failing to see how that connection is so superior to other connections, that the only way teams can exist in any fashion, is through gender connections.

I do agree that the players themselves don't want to be just given a chance, but I was more referring to T2 than T1. Ik even then it's still unfair, but there's what, 12 teams that qualify, meaning there are 60 spots I find it hard to believe that a few GC players don't deserve 2 or 3 of those spots. The only thing really stopping any T3/T2 team from making a mixed-roster is that they'd be the first to do so, and thus, they'll get looked upon much closer. As for T1, it's just trials really, maybe none of the players would make it via trials, but that's really the first step.

Nah, I've played soccer (football) throughout my childhood, but the reason why those teams are described as brotherhoods is that it's just all-male teams. That doesn't mean then that mixed teams can't function on the basis that a brotherhood can't be established. It's just a connection that relates specifically to boys and men.

He would be a W sentinel let's be real.

But why do players on a team have to operate like brothers? Team chemistry can be built on other connections too.

Bro what? Like aren't a lot of game changers players friends with VCT and VCL players?

That's your opinion sure, but I think some of the GC players are really underrated. The more I think about it too, I'm kind of in favor of a team just taking a punt on one or two of the best GC players, simply because there has to be a way to get into T2/T1 without being on a team that qualifies. Ik this might sound a little unfair, but until any GC player gets added to a mix-team or a team qualifies, they're kind of just stuck. Hopefully, V1 can make it into challengers next year, but it kinda sucks teams only get one chance to make it.

Some probably, others no, but I would say there are at least a few that deserve trials.

W post, but you're getting downvoted by a lot of people I bet.

Can't wait to see you back in a few months once the next year of VCT starts.

Lol, is this real or a joke?

I mean yeah there are certain things that are more favored to men and more favored to women just based on physicality, but most things don't require such a level of physicality for this difference to be that relevant. Also, from your point about men being more violent onwards, there's still an element of socialization. Even if there's more opportunity in certain places to work in places that are atypical for your gender, you might have been socialized to believe you're better off in a place you "conform" to more. This is actually pretty relevant for gaming, considering that gaming isn't an inherently male thing to do, but has been dominated for years, despite there being chances for women to participate.

Anyone can be in T1 but getting into T1 is hard, even for most male players.

This concept applies to anyone regardless of where they live though. It's not like transgenderism only exists in part of the world. It's just not punished as heavily in the US as in other places.

I agree, but also a little debate never hurt anyone, right?

Yeah, it's true that biology has somewhat influenced gender over time, but I did say gender was ever-changing which is kind of true. Nowadays, there isn't a need for traditional gender roles, and it's more productive for those roles to be integrated. Also, I'm not even a sociology major, I just took one class lol. But most of this stuff is pretty base-level anyway. Also, there are some trends either way like men tend to do/think X, and women tend to do/think Y, but a lot of that is socialized, meaning they developed to think that way.

W for him if they do.

I would, but this is an actual issue on this site, so I feel obligated to at least try to make a good argument.

I've been on here defending transgenderism and now it's too much to respond to, so here's my defense in one thread: (incoming downvotes, allat, and other dismissals)

Some of ya'll on here are confident as shit that there are only two genders, and I'm starting to believe you were never taught the difference between sex and gender.

So here it is:

Sex (as defined by Google):
"either of the two main categories (male and female) into which humans and most other living things are divided on the basis of their reproductive functions."

Now here the important part is "on the basis of their reproductive functions," because this is only a small part of who we are. I mean whose first response to the question "Who are you?" is to answer with what their genitals are? No, you would respond with characteristics of your personality and important aspects of how you want to be known (most of which I would assume are not physical features).

Gender (as defined by Google): "the male sex or the female sex, especially when considered with reference to social and cultural differences rather than biological ones, or one of a range of other identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female."

I know some of you are going to read the first phrase and run to the comments parading, but the important part here is "...or one of a range of other identities that do not correspond to established ideas of male and female." But especially the "established ideas of male and female," is the part where people don't seem to understand. See, what our concept of gender is, is made up. What makes something masculine or feminine is completely arbitrary. Like why do usually women wear dresses and men usually don't? Or why are men traditionally perceived as the providers of the family, while women are caregivers? These are just a couple of examples of how gender has been socially constructed.

Now comparing the two, what in the physical description of someone necessarily indicates things about how they should be? Or rather why would someone with XX chromosomes be more likely to wear a dress than someone with a Y chromosome? Without gender there is nothing to interpret what those chromosomes mean. And thus, you end up with two, everchanging notions of what a man and women are. But those are just two ideas of what someone can be, and not everyone falls into either of those categories. And since gender is not necessarily a physical descriptor, but rather a social/cultural descriptor, someone can choose whether to abide by that label, or another label or identify with something completely different.

There is more to go into, but I'll leave it at that. I recognize that this is kind of a lot to take in, and I've been a little confrontational today. This isn't really an attack so much as it's just trying to be informative. I hope this was somewhat helpful. I just wanted to share this considering transgenderism gets brought up a lot on this site.

TLDR: Gender is a social construct and is different than sex. Evidence of this can be found by analyzing the origins of our notion of what a man and a woman are. Thus, there are more than two genders.

Bro say it, no balls. But fr I'm starting to see why people say "if I speak" so much.

Yeah I said I like arguing and debating, but it's so I can improve on my reasoning skills. And yeah, I'm implying that I'm right, and on certain things it's not good to make the claim. But on this particular issue I am right, and I'm going defend that. The main reason why I'm posting so much is because people are going to continue being transphobic without really understanding it fully.

Also, I'm the exact opposite irl lol.

I'm not trying to start anything, but I'll always defend my position if I have too. Plus, people on this site make claims about stuff while being wildly misinformed, and it's harmful to the overall culture.