Not really disappointing imo. PRX are just insane. How can anyone be embarrassed losing to them or doing poorly against them when they've come in third place with most of the best teams in the world?

I expect them to be strong in LCQ now that they've had a lot of time to cook. With that said, given what we've seen from them this season, even if they make champs I wouldn't expect them to do much beyond making playoffs and maybe not even that. If they've managed to address their issue of simply focusing on their own game without adjusting/innovating which quickly leads to becoming very readable, maybe they could do much better.

Pretty good. Haven't actually watched kaguya sama(the stupidity of the premise at the start makes me unable, i'm sure it gets good later), samurai one or the bottom right(band/music animes generally make me wanna vomit so /shrug) but the others are great. HxH, Silent voice, Monster and Mushoku tensei in particular would probably make my 3x3 as well.

8/10

They are the GOAT team as of now but that title sounds like more than it is. We're only 2.5 years of international competition into the esport. 2nd at berlin 2021, 1st at Reykjavik 2022, 3rd at Copenhagen 2022, 2nd at Champions 2022 and now 4th at Tokyo 2023 in a global circuit with dozens of teams. That type of consistency in-arguably makes them the GOAT team for now when no other team has even lifted more than a single trophy.

But that can immediately be argued to be true if Fnatic wins tokyo and absolutely won't be true if Fnatic somehow follows with champions. But that doesn't mean the NRG core wasn't great prior to Fnatic and it won't mean Fnatic weren't great when the next GOAT team comes along. At the end of the day, I'd rather celebrate great teams.

Just because you say something, doesn't mean it's true. Is it possible FPX could have won. Absolutely. But you, nor I will never know if that is actually how it would have turned out since they weren't there. Reykjavík was Reykjavík. Copenhagen was Copenhagen. Champions was champions. It's a pretty shitty thing to downplay a team's accomplishments by pretending you can peer into some alternate version of reality.

Yea. The complaint is nonsense. Bracket was formed from regular season/playoffs standing. And it was the same format EMEA was gonna use prior to vitality dropping out.

I know how a lower bracket works just fine. Take a second and actually LOOK at the bracket. Only people reaching upper bracket semifinals get a lower bracket. So winner of SEN/100T will face C9 and winner from KRU/MIBR/Furia faces LEV, then losers there actually get lower bracket.

How can you be so confidently incorrect?

Look at the format again cause you're mistaken. 3 matches are single elim.

lol. I came in thinking this was about Fnatic. In my opinion, it could go either way but I think EG is heavily advantaged against PRX.

We're discussing VCT pacific/americas, not challenger leagues.

Nah, Americas did. And the vast majority of pacific's viewership was japanese. No japanese teams in tokyo means that most of that viewership isn't activated.

https://twitter.com/C0Mtweets/status/1671450563006062592
https://twitter.com/Demon1___/status/1671451799004545024
https://twitter.com/jawgemo/status/1671452952723345410
https://twitter.com/Boostio/status/1671452179633172483

These tweets aren't even bad. Who cares??

lol. You been drinking?

Difference is EG had no pre-tournament expectations

They have faith and rate them highly because of history. The NRG core was top 3 in every international tournament last year and finished second place at berlin in 2021. I don't know if they'll be able to beat liquid but it's very easy to understand why people rate them highly/have high expectations even with their shaky run at this event so far.

Save strats for champs 2024*

Lisp. I wonder if he is partially deaf/born deaf.

yes, all luck

If valorant doesn't end up super popular in china and the top chinese teams can't compete internationally because of a lack of talent (unlikely, look at what EDG is doing already), then they can always adjust the landscape later and merge china/pacific. But it makes much more sense from a business perspective to give china their full support from the start and hope for explosive growth rather than waiting until later when it's potentially too late.

This take is cope but dont compare league to valorant. EU/NA are not competitive at all with china/korea for many reasons. Can't be compared to valo.

oh shit, you're right. LMAO

You'll never gonna be able to get accurate numbers from looking at the chinese streams alone. We can only get accurate numbers with chinese streams in LoL after the fact through stream analytics that I don't even understand.

I actually laughed out loud

Mhmm, cause I'm gonna take the other random streamer's word as gospel. IDK what agreements twitch/amazon had in place prior to twitch developing IVS with AWS. And IDK if twitch sees revenue from that now that amazon is selling that service to 3rd party entities. But lets also not pretend you can actually confirm whether what that guy is saying is accurate or not. =)

Kick using AWS makes Amazon money not twitch money>

How do you actually know that without working for either company? I understand AWS is owned by amazon but IVS specifically was developed by twitch. You're just assuming they see no revenue from that but that isn't actually an assumption you can make. I never said twitch was winning. Just pointing out that you commenting she "didn’t even know herself what she was saying" isn't a fair assessment of what she's saying.

You're not entirely correct. Kick is using AWS IVS, which was developed by twitch after amazon gave them access to AWS. I'm not entirely sure which company logs the revenue from IVS but both twitch and amazon have a hand in it.

Anime culture is widespread in the western/asian riot audiences(and even beyond those audiences tbh). The same isn't even close to being true for things related to turkey.

You're smoking something crazy if you actually believe putting in Bcj over c0m at this point would actually do good things for the team. Especially when c0m has been performing at such a high level.

I wont change flair but definitely a fan, cant wait to see them in playoffs. And hopefully this helps people stfu about china slots.

He has a new fan in me for real

Nah not that simple

Yep. Of course it's very unlikely valorant ever gets that big in china but the potential exists.

If korea and china were invested in tac FPS like they were in league of legends; I promise you, the landscape would look a lot different but they generally aren't, so they won't dominate like they do in league of legends.

China will never merge with pacific. Never. Not even worth discussing.

Probably not. I imagine they would only consider doing something like that after several years of extreme domination. Just like in league of legends, china/korea had the same number of teams at worlds as EU/NA for the longest time despite being on a clearly higher level.

Pretty sure that isn't true. Optic faced Xset in the first round of playoffs at Copenhagen and this is the same format.

Group stage demons in LoL? Said by someone who has literally never watched league of legends.

NRG

Yes, because US expats have never ever lived in asia.

This is already outdated lol. Riot put out a statement delaying the LCS by two weeks and saying "lol no" to pretty much all the LCSPA's demands. They said they hoped to resolve the situation in the next two weeks but if they couldn't, summer split would be cancelled and there would be no NA teams qualifying to the world championship this year.

https://lolesports.com/article/an-update-on-the-2023-lcs-summer-season/blt175d929f90a4804d

So it seems the LCSPA is fucked. Which really isn't surprising to anyone who's observed riot's actions over the last decade. They do what they want, whenever they want to, however they want to and make sure that anything regarding the esports scenes of their games is within their control, even if said control is detrimental to the health of the scene.

termi said in an interview a day before finals they had 3 days practice with zest

:eg; :nrg; :loud;

edit: This looks really strange to anyone not using this add-on lol

Yup. No matter who wins tokyo, I won't be that surprised. Gotta love global parity.

IDK man. Feels like they handed their opponents 2 free map wins. Lotus, their permaban; if they were cooking something at all, it would have been with fox9. And bind, a map that returned during the regular season which means they wouldn't have had scrim time on it with zest. I seriously didn't start sweating even when PRX were down 0-2 because of these two maps.

I'm not assuming anything. Termi said they had 3 days practice with zest.

Sorry but that isn't enough of a reason to bench a player you've been playing with for 9 weeks. They literally only had 3 days practice with zest.

Don't get me wrong. I'm extremely happy PRX won because I was rooting for them. But DRX? WTF?

How the fuck are you gonna bench your star duelist that you've played the entirety of the regular season after getting clapped in a single series? How? Why? Make it make sense.

Oh well for them. GG

Absolutely not. Randoms in his ranked games were literally calling him boosted right after winning iceland. And not without reason.

Money and trophy yes. There are no circuit points. Top 4 are locked for tokyo and top 3 at tokyo go to champs.

How is it irrelevant? This is only an issue emea has because of the extra slot they got with fnatic's lock-in win. The other regions don't have this problem.