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| Last post: | August 23, 2024 at 6:45 AM |
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Can't wait tbh. Should be a great episode.
If there's anything I've learned from this year, it's to not underestimate any team no matter how bleak/unpromising things look from the outside and outset of their season. I'm gonna go into 2024 believing any team can do damage. Definitely looking forward to watching Americas next year.
https://richardlewis.substack.com/p/living-evil-how-north-americas-greatest
If you have the patience to actually read. There it is. Still a fan of this EG roster but definitely not a fan of the org.
Who cares? He's cemented his name in valorant history. That isn't gonna change, no matter what happens after today/this year.
Have no idea whether or not other pros would have the same amount. It's 833 days in playtime. Idk that doesn't seem that crazy to me tbh. Over the course of 3.5 years in high school, I had over 350 days playing WoW lol (yes, I had no life). And I played other games too. I can see other pros having similar amounts but maybe not.
Yes. Genetics. You could do that 20k hours. But you would (most likely) never be anywhere as close to as good as him. Anyone playing at the highest level in any form of competition in any game/sport is a monster genetically speaking. It requires hard work of course but (talent+hard work) > (hard work).
Can't copy the genetic settings unfortunately lol.
Well, both EG and PRX got owned by Loud on split. Loud probably have the best split in the world atm. So I think it's a reasonable pick.
It's confirmed there's a showmatch on new map before finals start right? Is that just influencers/random pros?
Yea, I'm not dealing with your results only based analysis. You're completely disregarding the incredible level of improvement other players have made. Demon1 is one guy. He played well in tokyo but it was the others, particularly boostio, who carried in tokyo. And even here in champions, while demon1 has stepped it up massively, he wouldn't be able to carry without the efforts of his team.
ONE player can not carry a team on their own. The improvement seen in the overall EG squad is because of great fundamental coaching and improvement over time. I'm done arguing with you.
Goodbye.
Not brain washed. And look who's talking about bias. As if just listing their stat wins over total games actually gives appropriate context to what they've accomplished. The teams they've faced this year are on a completely different level to the teams they faced as a squad last year. The addition of two players, no matter how skilled, do not make a squad improve this dramatically. It's obvious potter has played a big part. Idk how you can be so delusional.
You're the brainwashed one.
edit: keep that same energy and the potter slander up tho, I'm sure with time, people's assessment of her value as a coach will just be proven even more and more
Sure because it's that simple. Such a silly take. Demon1 is extremely gifted but we've seen plenty a time where extremely gifted individuals aren't able to shine without the right system to set them up. And what about the other four players? Ethan sure but the other 3 were literally thought of as trash prior to and for a significant portion of the season. This team didn't magically come together because of Demon1. It was all their efforts but absolutely at the forefront was great coaching from potter and other EG staff.
Nonsensical to think otherwise.
Because no one does at this point. On broadcast or off(platchat). It's just her handle.
Not over yet, loud can still come back, dont jinx it.
Maybe I missed the reason during the break between games but why is sideshow casting now instead of hypoc?
I say 0% chance it's not in APAC. Probably korea.
From this tournament? Definitely not. This is a ranking for champions alone.
I do understand your point. But even as an EG fan, I disagree. Do i think EG's path was significantly less difficult than the others? Not in the case of PRX and thinking about it more maybe(big maybe) Fnatic.
But loud? Loud had to contend with Liquid, DRX, and NAVI in groups. Obviously liquid didn't show up in good form but both NAVI/DRX looked good. Then in playoffs, Fnatic, PRX and EDG. Both PRX and Fnatic were tournament favorites on paper coming in and now they're in top 4. I think making a thread about it is dramatic but completely understandable, that is definitely a hard path when considering how strong people perceive all these teams as.
Also, I don't think there's any argument at all for EG having the most difficult path. To suggest it sounds ridiculous tbh.
I don't really understand what you're thinking tbh. EG opponents were FPX, FUT, EDG, DRX. Strongest opponents on that list in my perception are EDG/DRX. All the other teams have opponents that match those and exceed the others. PRX is the one team that is close. Both PRX/EG beat FUT and EDG. But I think with top 4 settled, most would see LOUD/KRU to be overall more challenging than DRX/FPX but honestly it's close.
With Fnatic/Loud, I don't think it's comparable and I'm not sure what you're confused about. Especially with Loud.
EG did indeed have the easiest path but so what? All they can do is beat the opponents put in front of them. No worries tho, they'll have to collide with those favorites this weekend. We'll see how it plays out.
Having casters/analysts/players/production work is not the same thing as holding a public event during a hurricane. The latter probably isn't legal while the former is.
If there's one place where I'll never be worried about t2, it's china. The talent pipeline, with or without riot support, will be absolutely fine. And they already scrim apac teams all the time. There are no ping issues between China and Korea.
he was making a joke...didn't actually call alecks top, he called alecks' desk top.
Ethan and Demon1 sure. Definitely can't be saying that about the others. If I chopped this team to bits and threw the pieces elsewhere, there's no shot I expect the individuals to perform to the level we've seen at tokyo/champions. EG are more than the sum of their parts and synergize extremely well. Not a super team.
Definitely can't call EG a super team. Did you see the top 20 lists prior to champions? All their players might be performing super well atm, but they ARE NOT a super team.
They do. But EDG isn't playing. It's still an american crowd. Primarily chinese american at times but american nonetheless.
They wanna be able to choose what the last map is. That's why they go B.
It's a reverse pickem where he advances who he thinks will lose a series.
You'd be wrong. Even if we can't see their exact viewer counts; you can compare champions heat metric to the heat metric of other well watched events like the LPL. There are plenty of people watching.
The pools are done by performance within your own region at tokyo/lcq
Fnatic+liquid 1st/2nd of emea teams at tokyo and are both pool 1 because of Fnatic winning the event. Fut was the third of the emea teams so they get pool 2. Giants/Navi 1st/2nd at lcq(4th/5th overall in emea) and get pool 3+4.
The other regions are more straightforward: EG 1st, NRG 2nd, Loud 3rd in terms of performance at tokyo so pools 1, 2, and 3. Kru, 4th overall by winning LCQ, so pool 4. Same deal with APAC. PRX, DRX, T1 are in pools 1, 2 and 3 respectively because of tokyo and Zeta are pool 4 because of winning LCQ.
You might not like it but it does make sense. There is no riot bias as you claimed.
Lol they're not biased. Fnatic earned two pool 1 spots for EMEA by winning tokyo. From there, it's literally just placements from tokyo+LCQ for rankings. And china doesn't get a pool 1 seed.
yep pacific looking dangerous with DRX revitalized and PRX in great form
Americas: 4-4
EMEA: 5-5 (4-4 against other regions)
APAC: 5-3
China: 2-4
One each of Americas, China, Apac, and EMEA out in the bottom four. Pretty good parity in terms of results with day 6 finished.
First time he's looked as good as people were probably hoping he would be going into the year. Doubt it'll continue but it's definitely a great showing from him.
It was such a dumb take in the first place. Anyone who watches LoL knows this. If china actually gets invested in a game, they will do well. Just because it doesn't happen in CSGO and some other popular esports, doesn't mean it isn't gonna happen in newer ones.
Lets list achievements for both the Loud/Optic cores in international events
Optic core:
2nd Masters Berlin 2021
9th-12th Champions 2021
1st Masters Reykjavík 2022
3rd Masters Copenhagen 2022
2nd Champions 2022
5th-8th Lock-In 2023
4th Masters Tokyo 2023
Loud Core:
2nd Masters Reykjavík 2022
11th-12th Masters Copenhagen 2022
1st Champions 2022
2nd Lock-In 2023
7th-8th Masters Tokyo 2023
I disagree with the idea champions>masters. The additional 4 teams that attend champions don't make winning the tournament significantly(or even much at all) more difficult than winning masters. Also, I don't think the achievements listed make them pretty equal. In my opinion, the optic core definitely have the edge with showing such consistency over such a long period of time.
I don't really understand the logic. If loud was more talented roster wise than Optic with similar success, doesn't that just prove even more so that optic is less fraudulent?
Enlighten me. I know nothing about ddk other than he was a caster and then became a coach/gm for 100T.
Its the major for vlr
Sure, that's why i'm getting downfragged and you aren't. Oh wait. The exact opposite is happening. What a paradox.
Doesn't matter. The prestige of winning champions is on par with winning any of the masters events in the majority of the community's eyes. That is what matters. Call me wrong if you want. That isn't gonna change that fact.
The term major does not translate from CSGO to valorant. You can pretend it does but it doesn't. No one is gonna arbitrarily assign significantly more value to winning champions than to winning any of the other masters/international tournaments. That is reality.
There are plenty of transgender players in GC if you look at the rosters playing in playoffs (V1, Shopify, Xset, DSG, EG). Some even have two like DSG and EG(i think?). So even if you take into account that trans players tend to be better than their peers, it's not like V1 is special or has some massive advantage in that department.
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