let's be honest, they are probably not making champs

true, but the Paris major had the most active crowd when Vitality were playing https://youtu.be/hHAtEQrftAY

bangkok is a weird one, toronto is ok, paris really depends on what emea teams qualify

I wonder what venue they will choose, probably the same where the CS GO major was hosted, it was quite dope, but it was clearly more active when Team Vitality played. I really dope any of the 4 can be considered real french teams, so it will probably be less hype than the CS GO Major

Paris will be a library if Karmine Corps doesn't show up, xd

why is riot so interested in turning away all the tier 2 orgs and killing the future of the pro scene

it just fucks the game. CS and Valorant are competing for the same people, and for me it is concerning that valorant has not overtaken CS when CS doesn't have a functioning anti cheat, had a franchising locking away all the prospects, problems with the new game, that was the golden opportunity for riot to pounce. But instead, most people find valorant getting quite stale, vct just looks sterile and CS esports still bags higher viewership, and now valve actually seem to have woken up (snap tap ban, anti cheat updates, open circuit next year). I fear that valorant might just go down the way of overwatch league.
It would actually be sad if riot took all the player base from overwatch, siege and other games to 5v5 shooters, only for them not to capitalize on it and for those people to leave for CS when CS actually gets their shit together

I just don't see vct growing with these rules. you have dead orgs like KOI, MIbr, furia, EG, BBL, NaVi, Liquid, most of APAC and China just munching on that riot money, doing nothing of relevance. tier 2 teams won't get their chances, get fucked if you don't make it to champs, then these tier 2 teams are banished to challengers again, their best players are stolen and the org just quits.

CS audience is the only one getting there imo, esports crowds probably have a better atmosphere than hockey and basketball crowds in the US so that's progress already. I just don't understand why people are against emotions. VCT will just turn into a fucking circus where the same players sit with a fucking stone face occasionally standing up from their chair as if their ass is itchy, crowd just turns into a golf one. Riot legit want to kill their fucking esport it seems, limiting teams, killing tier 2, limting the fans

never compare to big sports, esports isn't even close to them (except for LoL I guess). Riot needs to implement crowd mics and allow the crowds to actually talk their shit, same for players. CS just doesn't have a filter, you have broky double middle finger after 1-11 comeback, cadian calling enemy team noobs, Dallas crowd going ''FUCK YOU APEX'' and Apex actually responding to them https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dMi-wTtiQL8?feature=share
it's actually insane that something has to apologize for a middle finger, let the pros have fun, and the fans will have fun as well

crowd would be decent if gen.g/drx made it to top 4, now it will probably be a library, due to how spread out over the globe vct teams are there will always be a home team and a team with no support, so it's best to just host it in a big region with a huge vivd fanbase, like US again

LeBron 1st page type of vibes ngl

They don't want to make the overwatch briggite mistake but then they go the complete opposite way and turn new characters into useless new flashy thingies

then complete bots would have around 30% win rate, yet most of them stick around 45% win rate in the long term.
40-48% = lower skill than the rank you have
49-52% = exactly your skill level
53-56% = slightly above your rank
57-60% = above your rank
more than 60% = way above your rank
I don't understand why I am getting fucking dissed when I am just stating the obvious that ranking up is based on how well you do in the games where you make the difference, not your stats in meaningless losses 2-13. most people will obviously stick around 50%, because most of the players remain at their level for a long time

Now what happens if riot is secretly just rigging everything so that you are stuck in the game. Always getting bad teammates
Google Dota's hidden pool buddy, every comp game is built like this
EDIT: Some people dub it 50% win rate stage, but in reality all you need is just git gud lol.
40% of games you win no matter what
40% of games you lose no matter what
20% of games are the games you decide.
That's why most pros have a win rate of around 60%, they are just better

iem cologne also has the play in stage before that, making the event 24 team, and I hate the 6 team playoffs, 8teams GOAT

oh no, 2024 champs would only affect the seeding, not participants. Also seeding doesn't really matter
https://majors.im/23paris
here is the example of CS, go to Legends stage and go to Classic UI, there you can see how the coefficient (to the right of the ranking) affects which team plays what team

I would say
1-4th(1st seeds, higher placement of a region at last year's champs, e.g. Leviatan Wins this year, Americas number 1 team gets the number 1 overall slot next year no matter who that is)
5-8th, 9-12th, 13-16th ranked in same way ( highest placed region to lowest)
Then you get 1v16 2v15 and all the way down in round 1
same for round 2
but in round 3 this coefficient goes into work. This coefficient equals opponent Wins-opponent Losses
Let's say you have 4 teams in the 0-2 pool, ranked 6th, 8th, 12th, 15th overall
We rank them based on their opponents, not seeding:
Number 6 played against two teams who are currently 2-0 and 1-1, giving their opponents an overall score of 3-1 and +2
number 8 played against teams who are 1-1 and 1-1, giving them +-0
number 12 played against teams who are 1-1 and 0-2 giving them -2
number 16 played against teams who are 1-1 and 1-1, giving them 0
If you rank by seeding, 6 plays 16, and 8 plays 12, but 12 faced weaker teams based on the event results, so it really isn't fair
Buccholz would pit 6 vs 12 and 8 vs 16 because 6 faced the strongest possible teams and 12 faced the worst possible teams.
I hope I understood it clearly

Comparison of one year to another year lack objective comparison (except for stats). That's why you mostly compare teams based on the year they played in. loud and optic >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gen.G/Sen in 2024 in terms of how far away from other teams in that year they were ( the gap from them to like top 5 was huge), but when it comes to skill, newer teams would just smack them around

my bad I am illiterate and I ve thought it was spreading like HIV/AIDS, my fault gang

best team from before will always be worse than the best team right now, it's common sense, every sport is going forwards, not backwards

stop fucking animals on god freaky ass

also add Buccholz coefficient ( in simple terms, the stronger your previous opponents were, the better your seeding is for next round)

so then valorant already peaked? Fuck the game? Riot give us Valorant 2?

similar things happened in other games, I don't know why val needs to experience the same when it already has a competitive scene

I feel like riot will just kill off the tier 2 scene and it will just turn the teams into a constant change of players

still seems like too little for the teams but ok

so gentle mates and the new ascenion org only have 1 year left now?

https://www.dexerto.com/valorant/massive-vct-format-changes-save-valorant-ascension-teams-from-relegation-2791244/
apparently it's 12

losing to Near Airport in a 5v5 FPS shooter is actually crazy, we need prime astralis to restore order bros

meds

also navi apparently want to develop the Ukrainian scene inside valorant, problem is, all ukrainian younglings are deeply rooted in CS

I just don't feel like NaVi should have gone into valorant tbh. I know why navi wanted to go, that's kinda obvious, but I think they needed to axe other disciplines before that. their CS roster is their only consistently great team, other divisons are struggling. Them delegating valorant to a player like angel in the beginning of it was a foolish move. NaVi was brought in as an Eastern European team, but no one in eastern europe gives a shit about valorant. and navi aren't even interested in developing eastern european valorant, in every game they participate they are going more western.

how is it fair that a roster which has just won champions has to disband because their management forces them to earn less, and when they pursue another offer with a higher salary they risk being kicked due to poor results and then never being picked up again

but EG still axed their champions winning lineup due to salary

G2 are a definition of multinational.
Navi have a CS roster with a Romanian, a Finn and a Lithuanian which has now won the major. Navi basically had players from all of Eastern Europe, and I even think they had an NA lineup in DOta

how many teams maximum in a divison?

I didn't quite understand out compete, but don't you think that tier 2 getting sacrficied just fucks the scene talent pool?

but most of the orgs who were around the top of valorant have had plenty of cash, no?

but it is not a problem for games like CS and Dota, where the circuit is open, some orgs function there for dozens of years with new ones entering as well. Champs could easily make team bundles for participants of masters, champs as well, no?

Are you as fans enjoying franchising, or do you think an open circuit would be better? In my opinion, as someone who is just getting to know the pro scene of val, think that franchising locks a lot of the orgs away from the game, however a more structured esports scene is probably better for investors.

I don't know what riot defies as a russian team, Virtus Pro are now technically an Armenian ORG with a HQ both in Yerevan and Moscow, so idek how riot would solve it. Spirit on the other hand are in Belgrade and are anti war, so I think they could theoratically join

G2 has always been an EU Org, founded by well known Carlos a.k.a OCelote. a.k.a andrew tate friend

saw, ef, fucking falcons, m80 is also improving. CS just needs more NA talent and with open circuit, it will be peak

actually surprised, I ve thought it would be difficult for them to expand, since most of russian orgs are a no-go. Also I think spirit aren't interested in valorant afaik, their manager from dota never mentioned an expansion

it is exciting when you look back on it, but during that stretch, it was just ''oh, astralis just ass fucked mibr 16-0, yawn'' late 2019 was peak cs

And it clears 2021-2022 by a mile where it was just Navi shitting on everyone, then navi collapsed due to war and then faze shat on everyone. 2024 is the best year for cs, teams like navi, mouz, vitality, faze, spirit, g2 are all title contenders, teams like heroic, liquid, complexity, vp, mongolz, pain, 9z, astralis are all capable of taking a series off of them.

super teams are really a double edged sword. On one hand them clashing can become a fucking blockbuster series, but if there's like one superteam it just shits on all other teams and spirals every single other team into constant shuffles, and there is no guarantee these changes will make the teams better.
Example Given, navi 2021 in CS. Team outfragging every other team won like 7 events in a row, established multiple maps won streak and made every single event a ''will any team take a map off of navi?'' It did lead to other teams changing, but changes would happen anyway, that time in CS was just them farming every single team

virtus pro with an australian lineup? What the fuck is a polar bear doing in Melbourne, Victoria?

Team dominates -> its regional league becomes a cake walk, no one watches it because ''Oh why watch it when insert_OP_team_name will 10-0 it'' -> Regional league becomes irrelevant -> 2nd 3rd and 4th seed of this region become jokes -> weak region