well cologne and katowice are annual events, so they have more prestige and a more diverse crowd as a result. the other 4 had lovely crowds as well, but the events are simply not as important

ewc is technically esl :D

well it really depends on the event, I feel like this year rio >>>> last year rio cuz it features almost every top team

I would honestly put blast events higher than chengdu/dallas/sydney/rio and epl, but lower than cologne and kato

it has a bigger prize pool so it's kinda forced to be higher because the pay out is bigger

Major poses another value, they were the first big events and are hosted in a collaboration with valve, sticker money is given out, it's basically the bigger event because of stickers as well as history.

CS has another tier of events
S+ tier events - Majors, Cologne, Katowice
S-tier events, Blast world finals, blast spring/fall finals, pro league, EWC
A+-tier events - rio, dallas, sydney, chengdu,
A-tier events - BB Dacha and something
next year tho we will see a whole lotta more S tier events with A+ and Atier growing a bit

Booted from franchising %any

True, respect for keeping up your claims and backing your ideas up

Weren't they building for the future?

The main problem I see that they are in one region and only one can go fight for ascension no?

True, but I feel like they would try something like this in lol

I am also happy that there seems to be the rise of SA/NA, they aren't trash now, they are capable of winning eu teams

I mean I guess, but then some orgs in franchising will surely cry about it

Based, great solutions, getting new orgs in t2 might be tough but manageable

But that isn't really franchising, that's league system

like I am a cs fan so me seeing that cs basically bans franchising is something new, now cs has 30+ events and each event will feature new teams

valid, but have you ever thought that an open circuit would be better ?

yeah, that's kinda my main concern as well, at some point you just run out of players

true, but I feel like franchising on its own prevents tier 2

Do you wish valorant remained open circuit or is franchising better?

I mean my personal guess would be to make a wildcard tournament, where the 4th slot for the region is decided in a 12 team bracket (with 4 teams who finished 4-6th in splits getting a bye)

I feel like some people are either full time haters or full time glazers, people need to realize there is no perfect system

I mean the only format I didn't like was the madrid format. Swiss Stage should only be 16 teams and only with coefficients in place, otherwise it's fucking ass

but you can't really convince someone to stay in tier 2 where they have 0 profits

just curious what do you find positive about franchising, not saying it is bad, but just curious

Do you think he is the right man for the job?

so what is your fix then? promotion/demotion makes it a league, not franchising.

same happened to me with s1mple. Spent 5 years cheering for bro, then he is all tilted but he is still great. then he misses sydney because of ''visa issues'' and then w0nderful replaces him...
I still wait for my goat to come back, he will show m0nesy who the real goat is

s1mple didn't make cs, but i feel like tenz isn't even near s1mple. faker, sure, he made lol pretty much, but s1mple was more influential on the scene than tenz

well we had a major winner in ropz saying that ''prize pool from the major win is just a small bonus when compared to stickers''

you are talking about him as if he is like s1mple in cs, or faker in lol, wtf

I mean I feel like the reason those players worth less is nepotism. imho

1.) I am still talking about franchising in the current set of rules though. The team's position in an open circuit depends on how good the team is. If an established org starts going to shit (e.g. Fnatic, NiP, astralis in cs) nothing will save them because there is no system preventing this. They can get back by getting good. The hierarchy built by strength is always better than the one built on money sportswise
2.) The fact that franchising houses and allows this mediocrity for 4 years now is concerning
3.) Tier 2 has lower salaries, and only 1 chance to improve for 1 year
5.) because lol is more profitable
if riot were to hire me, or even Jesus Christ, no one is solving that franchising problem. I will however post a counter question. why was everyone in europe so against the Super League despite all of the big teams being in debt, because it would ''kill the competition and turn football into a show'' but then everyone just said ''franchising? fair enough.'' Why? what was different about it?

cuz those people are either nostalgic and refuse to accept rivalry, are jealous of val devs actually being alive. Funniliy enough the most mature reaction came from the cis region, where some people went to val, everyone just went ''ok, cool I guess' and then continued developing the cs scene. I personally prefer cs and think that cs is a better game but that in no way means valorant is a shit game. I feel like valorant does a great job being someone's first fps 5v5 for example, if they come from something like fortnite, or overwatch or apex

funniest shit is that if cs community wasn't a bunch of gatekeepers, cs would have a bigger playerbase AS A CONSEQUENCE of valorant.

I mean that's kinda the whole moneyball dillema. you have good players, but there is just something about them people don't like

what's the playerbase of val? I know about the viewership, but china carried hard

because CS fans think cs>val because it's edgy not because it has better shooting mechanics, maps, history, esports scene. Like out of all the things they want to talk about is the fucking HEHE BROKY SHOWED MIDDLE FINGER, EHEHEHEEHEHEHEHEHE

1.) a team ascends, has to fight tooth and nail to get to champs because then they drop into the ascension tournament. If they are eliminated due to being unlucky then they might have their players stolen because talented players don't want to waste one year in tier 2 instead of a year in tier 1, therefore making them weaker and forcing them to find weaker alternatives
2.) poor phrasing, it doesn't encourage you losing games, it doesn't punish you enough, e.g. mibr
3.) franchising does affect the length of the career cause the number of slots is limited, NA can only field 6-7 duelists MAX, anyone else is surplus, forcing anyone in the duelist slot to be in the hot seat and there is nowhere to fall back on
4.) I give this one to you
5.) it has to do with franchising because having more than 3 events + stages will force riot to increase their spending and they do not find it profitable

ascended teams always at a disadvantage
system which encourages losing games
careers which last 2-3 years max
shitty formats
lack of events

1. LoL
2. CS
3. Val (without china, top 2 with china)
4. Dota
5. who cares lmao

faker being the most consistent player of his game for a decade now throughout which he won 4 worlds in the most competitive region while being on the most skill based position in the game is surely the same as winning 2 international events and having 2/4 good years, sure bud

wtf acend left valorant, I cannot believe it man

none of those were fighting for titles

''we have long term rivalries'' but then riot destroyed its biggest chance at a generational rivalry

CS from next year works based on the strength of the team, not on how much you pay. If a team is like top 40 in the world, wins the closed qualifier to one tier 1 event out of 30+ organized and shows a decent performance , they will go up the rankings claiming the invites which tier 1 teams decline. Basically with so many events you will have a constant rotation of teams based on how strong they are

I guess life decided for you stopping

True I guess, but CS skins are in no way comparable to casinos. There they can chop off your fucking hand for loans

I have the stuff which I love, but I am self critical enough to understand that I need to focus on other things as well. I like gaming, but I would also like to get good education. If I succeed in the first one, cool. If I succeed in the second one, Cool