iem cologne also has the play in stage before that, making the event 24 team, and I hate the 6 team playoffs, 8teams GOAT
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iem cologne also has the play in stage before that, making the event 24 team, and I hate the 6 team playoffs, 8teams GOAT
oh no, 2024 champs would only affect the seeding, not participants. Also seeding doesn't really matter
https://majors.im/23paris
here is the example of CS, go to Legends stage and go to Classic UI, there you can see how the coefficient (to the right of the ranking) affects which team plays what team
I would say
1-4th(1st seeds, higher placement of a region at last year's champs, e.g. Leviatan Wins this year, Americas number 1 team gets the number 1 overall slot next year no matter who that is)
5-8th, 9-12th, 13-16th ranked in same way ( highest placed region to lowest)
Then you get 1v16 2v15 and all the way down in round 1
same for round 2
but in round 3 this coefficient goes into work. This coefficient equals opponent Wins-opponent Losses
Let's say you have 4 teams in the 0-2 pool, ranked 6th, 8th, 12th, 15th overall
We rank them based on their opponents, not seeding:
Number 6 played against two teams who are currently 2-0 and 1-1, giving their opponents an overall score of 3-1 and +2
number 8 played against teams who are 1-1 and 1-1, giving them +-0
number 12 played against teams who are 1-1 and 0-2 giving them -2
number 16 played against teams who are 1-1 and 1-1, giving them 0
If you rank by seeding, 6 plays 16, and 8 plays 12, but 12 faced weaker teams based on the event results, so it really isn't fair
Buccholz would pit 6 vs 12 and 8 vs 16 because 6 faced the strongest possible teams and 12 faced the worst possible teams.
I hope I understood it clearly
Comparison of one year to another year lack objective comparison (except for stats). That's why you mostly compare teams based on the year they played in. loud and optic >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gen.G/Sen in 2024 in terms of how far away from other teams in that year they were ( the gap from them to like top 5 was huge), but when it comes to skill, newer teams would just smack them around
my bad I am illiterate and I ve thought it was spreading like HIV/AIDS, my fault gang
best team from before will always be worse than the best team right now, it's common sense, every sport is going forwards, not backwards
also add Buccholz coefficient ( in simple terms, the stronger your previous opponents were, the better your seeding is for next round)
so then valorant already peaked? Fuck the game? Riot give us Valorant 2?
similar things happened in other games, I don't know why val needs to experience the same when it already has a competitive scene
I feel like riot will just kill off the tier 2 scene and it will just turn the teams into a constant change of players
still seems like too little for the teams but ok
so gentle mates and the new ascenion org only have 1 year left now?
https://www.dexerto.com/valorant/massive-vct-format-changes-save-valorant-ascension-teams-from-relegation-2791244/
apparently it's 12
losing to Near Airport in a 5v5 FPS shooter is actually crazy, we need prime astralis to restore order bros
also navi apparently want to develop the Ukrainian scene inside valorant, problem is, all ukrainian younglings are deeply rooted in CS
I just don't feel like NaVi should have gone into valorant tbh. I know why navi wanted to go, that's kinda obvious, but I think they needed to axe other disciplines before that. their CS roster is their only consistently great team, other divisons are struggling. Them delegating valorant to a player like angel in the beginning of it was a foolish move. NaVi was brought in as an Eastern European team, but no one in eastern europe gives a shit about valorant. and navi aren't even interested in developing eastern european valorant, in every game they participate they are going more western.
how is it fair that a roster which has just won champions has to disband because their management forces them to earn less, and when they pursue another offer with a higher salary they risk being kicked due to poor results and then never being picked up again
but EG still axed their champions winning lineup due to salary
G2 are a definition of multinational.
Navi have a CS roster with a Romanian, a Finn and a Lithuanian which has now won the major. Navi basically had players from all of Eastern Europe, and I even think they had an NA lineup in DOta
how many teams maximum in a divison?
I didn't quite understand out compete, but don't you think that tier 2 getting sacrficied just fucks the scene talent pool?
but most of the orgs who were around the top of valorant have had plenty of cash, no?
but it is not a problem for games like CS and Dota, where the circuit is open, some orgs function there for dozens of years with new ones entering as well. Champs could easily make team bundles for participants of masters, champs as well, no?
Are you as fans enjoying franchising, or do you think an open circuit would be better? In my opinion, as someone who is just getting to know the pro scene of val, think that franchising locks a lot of the orgs away from the game, however a more structured esports scene is probably better for investors.
I don't know what riot defies as a russian team, Virtus Pro are now technically an Armenian ORG with a HQ both in Yerevan and Moscow, so idek how riot would solve it. Spirit on the other hand are in Belgrade and are anti war, so I think they could theoratically join
G2 has always been an EU Org, founded by well known Carlos a.k.a OCelote. a.k.a andrew tate friend
saw, ef, fucking falcons, m80 is also improving. CS just needs more NA talent and with open circuit, it will be peak
actually surprised, I ve thought it would be difficult for them to expand, since most of russian orgs are a no-go. Also I think spirit aren't interested in valorant afaik, their manager from dota never mentioned an expansion
it is exciting when you look back on it, but during that stretch, it was just ''oh, astralis just ass fucked mibr 16-0, yawn'' late 2019 was peak cs
And it clears 2021-2022 by a mile where it was just Navi shitting on everyone, then navi collapsed due to war and then faze shat on everyone. 2024 is the best year for cs, teams like navi, mouz, vitality, faze, spirit, g2 are all title contenders, teams like heroic, liquid, complexity, vp, mongolz, pain, 9z, astralis are all capable of taking a series off of them.
super teams are really a double edged sword. On one hand them clashing can become a fucking blockbuster series, but if there's like one superteam it just shits on all other teams and spirals every single other team into constant shuffles, and there is no guarantee these changes will make the teams better.
Example Given, navi 2021 in CS. Team outfragging every other team won like 7 events in a row, established multiple maps won streak and made every single event a ''will any team take a map off of navi?'' It did lead to other teams changing, but changes would happen anyway, that time in CS was just them farming every single team
virtus pro with an australian lineup? What the fuck is a polar bear doing in Melbourne, Victoria?
Team dominates -> its regional league becomes a cake walk, no one watches it because ''Oh why watch it when insert_OP_team_name will 10-0 it'' -> Regional league becomes irrelevant -> 2nd 3rd and 4th seed of this region become jokes -> weak region
Alfajer tried to inflate his aura but then every standing up he has done led to -aura and not +aura. Aura is supposed to be generated based on demand and not forcefully, sadly Lfajer only learned this during the Seoul - Istanbul flight :(
viper and neon clear tho, so does that make neon just a better jett in everything?
just appreciate the game if you dislike the teams. Best combo is calling out the players you diss for being bums and frauds and laughing as these teams play. If you hatewatch, you will hatefind
there honestly isn't a reason to hate an org imho, it isn't like football where rivalries are sometimes political, historical and even racial
so you hate leviatan for cucking your favourite team, and sentinels and edg just because you hold them of a lower regard than they actually are, glad to see your hate is unjustified bro
why would you hate an org which hasn't done anything to you?
Don't you think a team like PRX has already peaked and after that it will only go down? Or DRX are just consistently 5-6th?
kinda why people who don't play computer games look at any esports and think of all of them as retards, glad to see you think the same way
''The worst part is, you can face completely dogshit players on the other team but if you have complete dogshit players on your team, its literally who ever is more dogshit loses; which in most cases is ON your team''
A wise man once said: ''You go into matchmaking thinking you are locked in a lobby with 9 retards, but all along the number of those retards is 10.''
So then franchising can just lead to NA shitting on everyone, EMEA just folding completely and then it's GGs for the cross-region rivalry, heck, maybe even the esports scene dying
I feel like franchising can lead to just one region shitting on other regions and therefore making it more of a joke than competition. Europe seems more concerned with cs, south america has 0 place to show its talents, franchising is slowly killing it, NA seems like the best region, China and Pacific are holding quite strong, however at this time they can only boast 2-3 strong teams out of 10