I have a potential answer : manipualte opponent rotation to plant on a empty site the less undercover possible (In the middle of 4 or 5 line), then stall enough time with flash and molly to temporize opponent that have to run threw all map to defuse on a mollyed site against someone that can appear for 4 place different to kill you. Like this you can win 1v3 without taking any kill (But it's the mathematical equivalent of taking a triple kill)

Postplant demoness ? (Thats basically my specialty <3)

If I wanted to trashtalk NA I would say that a team that have won nothing more than one NA split would enter in top 5 NA team of all the time. But I don't like trashtalk.

Let's be honnest, I'm pretty sure you can find at least 5 NA team that did better than 100T 2024 that only wno 1 split...

I could understand why 2023 100T could not be that important for 2024 since they had make a change (Well, they still have 3 player here so i'll have a nuanced opinion on that), but FNC roster is the same I see no reason why their 2023 experience shouldn't count in the calcul of the ELO. Even if i'm considering doing a soft reset (/2 the ELO of every teams) FNC would stay a little bit above 100T (even if I admit it would be an almost 50-50.

Soft reseting the ELO may be a solution but that would make AP and CN team even higher

How so ? FNC loose only 2 BO3 in 2023, they loose only one in kickoff, and they struggle to qualif to PO like 100T did
FNC is consistent, 100T isn't really yet.
The bot think about long term, if a team have 2 good week like 100T did, it's not enough to pass a team that have been consistently at the top since 2023 (And even more)

Hard to say if FUT loose are against worst team, FNC got a higher ELO than any AM team for obvious reason, so FUT and LEV have almost the same ELO and the game is 50-50 for the bot so thats sounds fair to me.
I think the main diff between the two team is that Fut went to world la year and Lev didn't, FUT proved they can be top 8 world, Lev never did it yet, they have just to win this one (If they done they will be 54% instead of 49%)

It's not they are playing bad, it's more they got a lot of loose this year, they are only in 7-6 this year, if they want to have a better ELO, they need to prove themself. To me their level is a little bit higher that the stat the bot give them (Because the bot is based on past result and it seems they are kinda improving since the start), but they still need to prove her wrong, and thats not by loosing against GEN and G2 that they will do it. To me they are favorite for tomorrow, but the game may not be one sided.

It's 100 max my bro !

Following of that post :
https://www.vlr.gg/350419/betting-contest-based-on-odd-no-money-involved/#30
https://www.vlr.gg/351829/bet-on-odd-part-2/ (I can’t find round 2 topic, I think it might have been deleted, if you are a vlr mod, I would love to hear what hapenned!)
tldr ; testing a bot based on ELO, I want to see if you can beat him.
Rule is easy : Every new player receive 1000 point at the start, you can bet 100 point maximum on each game. (Obviously no money involved, it’s just for fun)

Round 3 odding bets Odd in [], chace of win in ()  :

• [1,66] FPX – TH [2,52] (FPX 60%)
• [1,96] FUT – LEV [2,05] (FUT 51 %)
  I think my bot is probably wrong on both to be fair, but I kinda agree with the fact both team are kinda close.

Ranking :

• 1st Dolphin 918
• 2nd Novinho_pirocudo 979
  Is bot in positive ? Bot is currently + 103

Result of lasts rounds
R1

• [1.7] G2 - T1 [2.42] : (G2 59%, G2)
• [1.61] FPX - FUT [2.63] : (FPX 62%)
• [1.61] GEN - LEV [2.63] : (GEN 62%)
• [1.48] TH - DRG [3.07] : (TH 67%)
  R2
• [1,99] G2 - TH [2,01] : (G2 50,2%)
• [1,92] FPX - GEN [2,08] (FPX 52%)
• [1,79] LEV - T1 [2,26] : (LEV 56%)
• [1,53] FUT - DRG [2,88] : (FUT 65%)

A LAN on top of Macchu pichu would be absolutely dope.

I donno which val influencer said it would be nice to have different format for differentiate different masters, but the idea of having one master a year in a neat place outdoor with semi-extreme condition could be weird, but also kinda intresting. Imagine you can say "yeah I won a trophy on the top of Macchu Pichu"

Fun ! But sadfully 2-4 was kinda bad, I hope they do better next stage

Who you put above ? Only TE might be better right ?

Boise isn't one of the fastest growing city in the US ? At least Idaho is the fastest growing state ! https://www.citypopulation.de/en/usa/states/admin/

I see FUT as a gatekeeper, it's neither a good nor a bad team, it's a team that will loose against champions contender team and win against bad team, the fact they were a lot in international event recently isn't a good sign for UE.

Inercy : Team doesnt have enough time to train other comps

Ranking by the bot
PRX 111
EDG 91
FNC 81
GEN 72
100T 57
FPX 56
G2 52
TH 32
FUT 23
LEV 19
T1 5
DRG -13

Yeah China may be a little bit too overated, but not that mush, I think in S5 China will be more accurate

Instead of creating an insane number of trashtalk topics "NA sucks" "EM0A" etc... What would you think of vlr mod creating a pinned "Banter topic" for every T1 event ? So recent discussion isn't fully of trashtalk topic, and we may have more visibility on more calm and constructive topic ?

Bad idea ?

Probably what he mean but we really need to be careful about that, even I make the mistake, but we really need to stop calling "Am" "NA", thats not cool for SA teams

lev is not NA T.T

I kinda think the contrary, those topic hide visibility of interesting topics, maybe more people would participate if the recent discussion wasn't full of clowfiestas and topic about the same things.

Sadfully we never know what the future will be made, maybe you are right, maybe you are wrong, only time will tell and that should give us shivers.

Let's enjoy our trashtalk for the top as we can. In 5 years maybe it will be impossible for us to win an international event and Asia gonna roll stomp us as they do in LoL

The hope of winning a trophy and freeing everyone from the psychological pressure of being the first APAC team to win a trophy kinda unite you all

SEA have already united together politically with ASEAN (Even Australia consider enter in it IIRC), including Japan and Korean sounds kinda ok since they are asian country too that have to face the big China, they are not southeastern but they share some common point. India alone is a big power that doesn't share anything with Asean or JPKR, I can easly imagine why it's easier to identify as a Apac when you are Indonesian and why it's almost impossible for an Indian.

Lets be honest you are too far from pacific, and if people say "I'm asian" nobody will imagine the guys coming from India or middle east, so you are not really APAC.

You are supposed to be your own region like middle east and Africa, but because PC culture is not here yet you have to wait in APAC for the moment and be an "Apacian by defalt" (If you want you can also root for EMEA because we all are descandant of "proto-indo-european" but i'm not sure that confort your heart.)

I'm confident about India becoming a T1 in maybe... 10 or 20 years, and you should be confident too. If you want to warm your heart, you can realize you are lucky enough because you will be able to see India growing as a region step by step until they become a T1 region.

I kinda have the same feeling for Africa, as a french I care a lot about every country that speak french, and Africa is the place in the worlds where the most frenchspeaking are (Kingshasa is already the "biggest French city in the world"), so yet I have no African Valorant to follow, not even in T2, but I will have the chance to see it growing until it become a T1 (it's inevitable seeing the demography of Subsaharia), and maybe if i'm lucky enough, I will be able to help it to grow, thing I couldn't do if when I discovered Valorant, Africa was already a T1 region

Probably the same for Americas, I like this idea of 1 region divided in 2 (Maybe that will be usefull the day riot want to make region based on geography and hold Stage 1 South Americas in Brasil and stage 1 SEA in SG)

I think I have the scenario guys : Demon1 get dropped, EG hire him back, NRG manage to qualify to round 1... They face Demon1, he and Potter rollstomp them, NRG is eliminated

Exactly ! Gigapopulation could sound a little bit weird but 1G1 pop is a little bit more clear !

That would be amazing if every round of swiss would be based on team pick (just need to find a way to order the picks to be sure team are roughly on an equal foot)

Wont happen but that would be dope

Always a pleasure dear

Don't worry, explaining is nice.
Using, million, billion, or "milliard" (in my country) can somewhat be hard to use when you lack of fluency in English like me. Since I'm better with math than in English and the International System of Units assigned a universal letter for all this, I try to use them more (even if on my first post I failed miserably)
1k = 1 000
1M = 1 000 000
1G = 1 000 000 000

I think it's my autistic diff + bad language diff T.T
I'm better in math than in English so I try to use more k/M/G @.@

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_prefix

1k = 1 000
1M = 1 000 000
1G = 1 000 000 000

900 000 000

(Should I have G instead of M, would be more clear)

Developed PC market
China population around 1M4 pop
Pacific population (without India) around 0M9 pop
EMEA population (without MEA) around 0M9 pop
America population around 1M1 pop

Undeveloped PC market
MENA+Pak 0M9
India 1M5
Africa 1M3
(Not sure where to put Bengladesh, Bhutan, Nepal, Sri Lanka, if I put India alone, their wiegh is 0M2)

Plus FPX is almost as good as EDG, they beat them twice in split 1, and we have no idea what Tyloo vs MIBR would look like, every region have strong top and trash bottom

So after round 1 :

• 400 spended
  +170 for G2
  +148 for TH
  total : 918

Sometime I feel cringe starting to sound like a compliment "You let no chance to your opponent WP"

EG 83
100T 57
SEN 51
LOUD 47
NRG 38
G2 34
LEV 26
C9 26
KRU 8
MIBR -45
FUR -61

Based on an ELO system with no reset (explaining also why EG is that high), thats kinda true

33% chance it happen based on some ELO system (But I personally think it's less)

Keep in mind that in sport and esport everything is possible

You have to put FNC in S3, they won 2 international event and having only 2 loose, that's probably the best team all time that wont be beaten before long

I'm not the queen here... Even I doubted my own child...

Sorry for doubting you princess

Source ?

Well... Since everyone seems shaky i'll bandwagon

Maybe the truth is Trash > CN=AM=EU=AP

+70 for G2
-100 for Fut
total : 9970
The FPX upset was so weird

To be fair, SPX beat EDG twice during the VCT China, and EDG won only once, I'm not that sure EDG >>> FPX

They have the best comp for a retake and playing aggro, to me it sounds like an absolutely nonsense, but I'm open to listening how playing aggro with that comp is smart

I'm not sure to see how we can use that for making odd

I still think FUT gonna win that but lets be honest, on the first 2 games FPX was better @.@

Interesting !
With what methodology you did that ? How does the value works exactly ?