Dissapointment

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harriman

That's all I can really say. I don't think any players are to blame, mCe really dropped the ball though in my opinion. Overall they just looked utterly unprepared and not fit for the LAN environment. Hopefully, they can grow from this and show up better the next time around because they really do have so much potential.

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how do you know they have so much potential relative to other teams?

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dino_brains

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Young players, most of who have no or very little experience in pro-esports, so it makes sense with more time and experience they should get better

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harriman

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Because of what they have shown in NA vct. If you watched all of their games you would know that the pressure was really getting to them, especially Trent. Going through groups would have helped them so much.

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rtyjrdtesh

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will a group with DRX and Zeta help them?

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egg80085

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with zeta and a nerfed fnatic, defintely

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KoreanOverlord

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holy copium

this zeta beat liquid who topped group b

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unknown_trash

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but if PRX>TL and >ZETA, then it would have helped going through groups before facing off against a top 8 team in the world.

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rtyjrdtesh

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no they would have not made it out of groups at all

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unknown_trash

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you would be surprised at what confidence does to a team. if the guard had to play in groups, i think they would have made it out.

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rtyjrdtesh

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no they would have not. However this is what I think and the opposite is what you think and it's not proven can't be proven because it didn't happen. That's why what happened triumphs. Which is the guard got eliminated.

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unknown_trash

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yeah they got eliminated in playoffs against tougher opponents. thats why i think going through groups would have been better for them especially since everyone knows what they are capable of when they play properly.

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pikachu

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Nah fam. If they join the group stage, they will have a watch party now.

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DrudaL

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Young players, less stream.

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Vasco15

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Feel like taking neT off chamber was a bad move, they got so little value out of kj + cypher util

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harriman

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Yeah he was one of the only bright spots against optic

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SamBR

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NA Exposed
NA overrated
That's all I can really say

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harriman

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BR has never made it out of groups is all I can really say

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KitsuneFPS

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Best Bronzil did last year was Vikings at 11th place
That says a lot imo...

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JustHunter

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BR aren't touting themselves as the best region unlike NA who haven't done shit the past year
Victor getting COVID wasn't an excuse cause the guys lows are still the same as his performance in Berlin
Sen don't even practice, tho of they did I think they'd still be top in NA
C9 are just a mess, so many problems and honestly idk how Vs didn't roll them.

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I kinda agree with you man but I'm just sick and tired of Brazil fans just shit-talking EU and NA teams after a bad performance when they themselves can't put up a good performance themselves. They can criticize all they want but they're staraight up shit-talkinglike they didn't go through tough qualifiers to be here.
I too am really sad that V1 aren't here, out of all NA they displayed the most discipline and coordination in the Challengers. Really sad they didn't make it. Hope to see them on the next LAN tho.
Also this was a valuable experience for the Guard imo, just like the loss that Acend suffered last year against 100T on Breeze, they'll only grow stronger.
As for the Masters, for me the top dogs going in this LAN were Fnatic, FPX, DRX and Yay and friends. Kinda hard to gdeny it but when Yay is feeling it he hard carries the entire team (not that they are not individually talented, but yay brings the team to a whole new level). Sadly fnatic had very weird circumstances and was doomed to fail from day 1 and FPX couldn't make it. Now having seen the new roster of PRX they have a solid chance against DRX if they make it through and I'm really waiting for that match.
G2, Loud, Zeta and Optic still have a chance tho but I'm not really convinced by their performances thay they can bring the trophy home...

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clutchzero

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eurocucks are always shit talking about brazil, why we are not allowed to do the same? stop crying like a pssy.

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KitsuneFPS

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Just beacuse there are some dumbfucks (regardless of the region) who'll shittalk any team from any other region doesn't mean you can do the same. You're (I dont mean you specifically) both trash, literal cancer for the game and it's fanbase.
Praise should be given where it's due and teams should be criticized when underperforming but no team deserves to be shit-talked for one (even multiple) bad performances.
Remeber this guys are the top 0.1% percent, the best of the best.
They have gone through their entire region to be here and that speaks of their quality.
Yeah some regions will not be as strong as others but there simply cannot be that much of a gap between the top 20-30 teams in the wolrd...

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greezoe

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BR fans praises their representative teams as jesus, let em be

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egg80085

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12-5 green square

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elayaCL

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PRX played good, anyone? PRX were more coordinated and consistent, anyone?

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harriman

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Yes PRX played amazing but if Guard played at their peak like they did in qualifiers they could have won

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JustHunter

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"could" though I doubt they would. Prxs playstyle is too much of s counter against tg. If it was optic then there's a chance but I don't it with the guard

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average NA copium

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harriman

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How was this copium? I'm not saying they would have won I'm saying they would have had a better chance. If you watched their qualifying run you would understand how much they underperformed.

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cant call it a LAN without crowd

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dino_brains

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Being in the same room with the other team shouting and making noise is going to affect your mentality, this is pretty much agreed on in all e-sports. The crowd adds another element, but going from playing games in your bedroom to playing games with the other team 6ft away is going to affect your mental

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JustHunter

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1iq take

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harriman

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Yeah he was one of the only bright spots against optic

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First lan and are always learning and improving. Pressure really got to them but looking forward to them next masters #StandGuard

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raka

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coach's fault that players looked scared at their first lan OKKKKKK

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harriman

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Comps and map veto were bad

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gira_aspas

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its fine, the guard is really young, they will grow from this situation

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This isn't the coach fault man. The Guard is the only new NA team with no lan experience other than Saya. Its bound to happen with nerves and mental when valorant is such a momentum based game. PRX play style absolute rekts inexperience teams. Against DRX they play super safe and consider all the possibilities.

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NA copium. Optic Last Hope, also TGRD overhype.

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sueYA

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guard wasnt overhyped, NA is overhyped, honestly I still think TGRD better than optic

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MastoOG

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Really don't understand mCe going back to the old Split and Haven comps after having so much recent success with the current comps...

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JustHunter

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When Trent didn't perform "oh he has no experience, he's a kid cut him some slack"
When tenz doesn't perform "tenz is so overrated, he's so bad a inconsistent, can never do anything for his team, only plays Jett"

Man when you don't perform you don't perform, excuses don't matter. Trent couldn't take it on stage? Doesn't matter, the dude just isn't on the same level as the international teams. Also NA trash region so ofc he's gonna go crazy against them

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I mean you can't compare tenz and Trent because tenz has lan experience since cs and masters2,3 and champions. It was Trent's first international lan. But i get what you're saying, if he went insane tonight no one would've acknowledge the fact that it was his first lan

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harriman

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Trent is an amazing player who didn't play up to his potential under the pressure. That isn't an excuse its just an observation.

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It was there first lan....with experience they will grow I believe in guard #STANDGUARD

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sueYA

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gambit won the first lan they played just saying...instead of coming up with excises just say gg and move on and look forward to the next event

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first time, ggwp to tgrd

they WILL come back stronger!!

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harriman

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I hope so too!

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Ultimate6989

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ye but that was an anomaly

how do u not choke on first lan??

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sWan10_exe

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Nah PRX just played better
GUARD were good tho

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harriman

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I know they played better I don't deny that. PRX is awesome but it would have been much closer if Guard played up to their potential.