KR 2 slots? | VLR.gg

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jimjam789

hypothetically say fnc wins vs zeta, and then face nip with derke and beat them easily. does BR still deserve 2 slots and if so doesnt kr as well? since then they are technically both '1 team regions'

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BR has way more teams and players competiting than KR
simliair to CIS KR doesnt have a lot of teams

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KoreanOverlord

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Except way more teams were competitive vs DRX

WGS almost beat them and lost in OT

Damwon had closer maps than nip

ONS beat them first time they met

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Demise

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This argument of ''Oh this X team had much closer result than Y team'' is pretty dumb teams have diff mindsets and playstyles with diff type of counters for each other you cant compare 1 result to an entirely diff region's result.

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Never_Wrong

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Thank you. You the MVP

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KoreanOverlord

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So how is korea a one team region if theres no results to base upon?

Nice red herring fallacy

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Demise

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Did i mention that in my argument? did i ever call KR a one team region lmao? if anything i have supported KR lol and results that other teams got against DRX are praise worthy and shows the region has competition but saying that KR isnt dominated by 1 team isnt wrong either.

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nice Bias to ur country

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ratio

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PrTsty

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Im talking about teams that are actualy proteams and live off of it

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KoreanOverlord

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damwon wgs all make living off valorant

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PrTsty

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its not close to BR

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KoreanOverlord

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I want the same LCQ slot latam and br have to compete for

Make it kr/jp slot

We have it for champions but for masters too

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Easy_for_MWZERA

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True. It's deserved. I mean, what's wrong with those 12 teams tournaments? Make it 16 and 24 goddamit.

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tonyhart7

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for champion Is okay but for master ??? dnt need tho

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the reason is bc of their population

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people actually think that any other team in kr can be at same level as drx is hilarous, the one that had potential was ons2 and they just got destroyed

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jimjam789

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u can say the same about br tho...no team is near loud

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andrewdamf

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not now, vk dropped jhow and v1xen. if they get new players they could compete against some teams even tho they will never surpass loud

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jimjam789

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u can say that about kr again lol...damwon just got infinitely better

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andrewdamf

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no they didnt lmao

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jimjam789

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?? lmao do u even watch the region.

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Never_Wrong

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If both are 1 team regions why adding up instead of just... giving 1 slot?? Also the comparison is flawed

Br > kr

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jimjam789

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how on earth did u come up with the conclusion that br>kr if u exclude loud and drx from this conversation

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because br has more players and more teams?

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jimjam789

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what has that got to do with anything. this about 2 slots, the top 2 teams in the region, not the region as a whole

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Never_Wrong

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"bigger"

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F4Q played better than Keyd Stars or FURIA? Vikings? I don't think so. I think they need a 2nd slot to gain more experienced players, but for now only NUTURN played well.

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jimjam789

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they def played similar in terms of results lol (taking maps off major region teams). obv br would beat jp teams and so would kr if they had the same group at the br teams did so its not really an argument

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Sprouts

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I mean tbf we haven’t gotten to see many KR teams internationally because we have so few slots
Also the only reason why F4Q attended Berlin was because we didn’t have double elimination like every other region, TNL would’ve done better

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that's my point, KR deserve one more slot to let the teams and players reveal themselves to international stage, but with one slot being disputed between DRX and SEA/JPN super teams will not help the region.

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brazil doesnt have 2 slots, they and latam both have 1 spot each, that lcq thing for the final spot between the 2 regions is kind of weird but not entirely bad
not sure if kr deserves a second spot since that region is mainly dominated by drx, closest team from the matches ive watched were onslayers, who beat them in the group stages but got destroyed by drx in the playoffs twice

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u can say teh same about loud tho. completely dominant in the region. and id say the lcq thing is only cuz of krus performance in champs, and as we can see as of right now, BR is prob much better so i think it will return to 2 br slots next masters

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egg80085

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yeah the whole thing is kind of weird

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the format of having lcq should be for krjp instead, Brazil should have 1 same with latam

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ur country not that really have competitive game tbh, just look at the score history of VS, its like KR = VS nothing else :),
i would said if u want 2 slot , i think jp & kr sould be mix to fight that 2 slots, bcs just see SEA, how much country need to compete to get 2 slots
just be fair buddy :) win 1 game not making u instaly the best region/country, win this entire tournament 1st

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jimjam789

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i mean nuturn came 3rd in iceland. kr def has the talent to at least make a dink in the international scene

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reylarc

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buddy u must take some conclusion from 2022, kr qualifier. The past tournament and history its just became history buddy lol

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IMO this is how masters 2 slot allocation could go assuming 16 teams.

EMEA: 4
NA: 3
SEA: 2
BR: 1
LATAM: 1
KR: 1
JP: 1
SA LCQ: 1
KR/JP LCQ: 1
One last spot is between sea and br (whoever performs better).

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kwe

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Dis looks about right ngl

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W

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Slashyiguess

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why na has 3 slots?

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ForumPeasant

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Tournament hasn’t ended, maybe The Guard wins it all you know.

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Slashyiguess

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Tournament hasn’t ended, maybe Paper Rex wins it all you know.

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ForumPeasant

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Yea this list is just tentative. That’s why I put the last open slot for the region that performs the best.

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reylarc

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this is so bad because the tournament will going to be EMEA EMEA and EMEA winner agian and again, they got 4 slot and how big their opportunity to win it?,
SEA sould be +1 because there is too many country compete in this region to be fair EMEA and SEA is the most region that have so much country to compete they got 3 each is fair

if korean want to get more slot i think better JP and KR sould be mix to compete that 2 slots, because all we know japan not that good as a representitive of their region

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thiagomds

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16 slots will solve all these problems. 12 teams doesn't make a lot of sense and it's difficult to create the format

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KoreanOverlord

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Also its pointless to make these threads because theres not enough koreans in these forums so itll just be a onesided debate

We know if we send 2 teams to masters we would show similar if not better results then brazil but people never watched a single vod of KR will say its a 1 team region

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factos

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Nakao

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KR: 2 teams to playoffs (DRX and "NUTURN")
BR: 2 teams to playoffs (LOUD and "VKS")

other teams from BR: VK, HL, SHK and FUR
other teams from KR: F4Q

did they pass out of groups? no

F4Q played well against G2 and Sentinels
VK played well against Envy and Acend, won against JPN (not counting that)
HL didn't played well lmao, what a fluke run to qualify honestly
SHK played "ok" against NUTURN and KRU
FUR played well against KRU and Sentinels

the thing is, KR isn't better than SEA, so they can't send more teams to Masters or Champions bcs they can't win against them, but we can't say that they're better than BR because the only two times they faced each other was seed 2 team from BR against seed 1 from KR, which means a lot when comparing the disparity between seed 1 and 2 in Brazil on both ocasions. LOUD may be better than DRX or DRX better than LOUD, we don't know. Meanwhile both of them lose to SEA teams, so SEA picked up the spot (deserved at least).

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kowacic

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yes, we still deserve 2 slots

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KoreanOverlord

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Yet ur ready to call it a 1 team region without any results KEKW

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KR deserves at least 2 slots with 16 teams, but not sure if they do with 12 teams. BR deserve 2 slots with both 12 and 16 teams

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because br has more players and more teams?

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AcePro

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One is enough unless they're bringing a million viewership.

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My understanding is that slots are allotted based more on viewership than team quality

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jimjam789

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historically its performance is it not. sea more slots after champions run. kr 2 slots in masters 3 after nuturn run. na losing a slot after bad performance at champs, same with kr.

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idk I just could have sworn I remembered someone important saying they were awarded based on regional viewership

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jimjam789

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i mean if u look at jp they arent really a good region but have a slot due to insane viewership. but that viewership is only stopping riot from getting rid of the slot and doesnt determine if jp gets more slots or not

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tonyhart7

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Lmao this is gotta be a joke

NA got 2 because is 1 continent
Emea got 3 because it has a lot of country
Apac well u guess it same

why do you think 1 country with less population and scene deserve 2 slot for master, and therefore not make it fair for other team that compete in 3 region above need so much filter to even begin qualify

?????

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jimjam789

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u slow? population size has nothing to do with it lmao, slot distribution changes EVERY single event, and they correlate to the performance of the region of the previous event. sea more slots after champions run. kr 2 slots in masters 3 after nuturn run. na losing a slot after bad performance at champs, same with kr. br/latam lcq instead of 2 br slots after kru champions run. what are they gonna do if they introduce china to vct lmao, 5 slots cuz of their population? LMAO

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tonyhart7

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no SEA always have 2 slot from the start
and NO in master 3 all region got more slot, its like saying JP dnt need slot because their bad performance
++ NUTURN is a fluke

and population always account into factor, how so EMEA,NA,SEA has 500++ million more population and that means more team and More talent and More Competition

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