LEAF >>>TENZ | VLR.gg

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NG1nS

never thought I'd say this with this confidence but leaf > tenz not only aim wise but gamesense amd teamplay wise and individually.
it's a YAY vs LEAF for the best jett NA although yay plays chamber mostly

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leaf was always better
he just didnt have good teammates

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i mean tenz had horrible teammates in c9 and still played pretty good... i agree rn leaf is better

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how dare u disrespect mitch

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sure mate. Just keep kicking the man when his team synergy & gameplan is absolute dogshit! https://www.vlr.gg/16997/cloud9-blue-vs-sentinels-champions-tour-north-america-stage-2-challengers-2-gf

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what are you even saying

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he said leaf was always better this game shows he wasn't! How is it so hard to understand?

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kristof

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literally a seeding match.

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They haven't played each other that much and when they did TenZ always won so how do you make such a bold statement? Currently leaf might be a better player but with right mindset and Sentinels back on track TenZ can be a better player as he was previously.

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tenz will never dominate again bro stop being delusional… leaf always hard diffed tenz if it was not a seeding game

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typical sen hater LMFAO

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damn, tenz performing better than leaf in a seeding match a year ago? you really got him there!

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HoodX

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this almost a year ago, leaf was new to the game, he is way better than tenz rn LOL

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wewZ

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lmao c9 didnt have a proper IGL back then

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we know

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Pixsy

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what a crazy thought.... and so creative

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NG1nS

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bro i saw all the threads after

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quake3arena

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anyone that actually watches the gameplay in competitive valorant will agree with you

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sure leaf is better then tenz but has somehow no trophy lol

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quake3arena

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no one said tenz didnt earn his trophy. leaf is just better than tenz.

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kristof

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they didnt deserve iceland last year tbh

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RGS_OnToP

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tell me how is leaf better then someone who was dominating Na whole 2021 scene ?
tenz won pretty much every fucking Na trophy 2021
Leaf=0

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kristof

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it’s 2022 bro
stop living in the past

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SEN really the new TSM and that applies to their fans too

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is - present
was - past

Not that hard ? Is it ?

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RGS_OnToP

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flawless logic buddy
on one hand you have someone who is a award winning Mvp Valorant player on the other hand you have someone with a couple of good game 2022
but of course the dude with a couple of good game 2022 is now better then the award winning Mvp one lol

i guess c ronaldo who has won 5x UEFA Champions League is now bad washed too because he lost lately to Wolverhampton right ?
Wolverhampton > c ronaldo

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0 logic dude
Ronaldo was consistently top 1-2 in his entire career and won 30+ trophies and like 100 other individual trophies
while tenz only have 1 LAN win

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RGS_OnToP

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lol Valorant is pretty much one year old
It's not even possible to have 30+trophies
but Tenz has won 2/4 possible master and every fucking challenger event in Na
but of course branddead vlr user are now saying Leaf was always better then tenz makes fo me zero sences
by the way you understand that c ronaldo diednt won 5x UEFA Champions back to back right ?
between his first UEFA Champions 2008 and his second 2014 was 6 year in between

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you can cope as much as u wan’t but tenz 1 fluke LAN doesn’t mean shit. leaf is the better player overall and sentinels would have won those events with leaf too

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lol the fluke dude who was dominating Na whole 2021 scene and the overall better player with ZERO trophies sounds right
if sen thinks they could win with leaf then they would have pick him because if i remember correcly tenz on loan cost sen 400 k or so per tournament alone

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sentinels would have won those events even if they sign hobo joe as 5th

continue thread →

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Damn SEN no map loss LAN win is such a fluke right?

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kristof

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it’s possible
device has 30 LANs in cs

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babay4g4

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Its possible to win 30 trophies in a one year old game? Check your brain.

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kristof

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device didnt win those trophies under one year either

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I think you lack some comprehensive skills. First of all, I don't really like these comparison shit and second, I only agreed to "currently Leaf is better" which kind of shows itself. TenZ is definitely still a top player and was the best in 2021, haven't denied it.

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Dolphin

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haha tenz better than your mom and you are here shittalking 🤣🤣🤣

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what about cryo?

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overrated

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is that even a question...

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To be honest for a long period of Time Tenz had been dominating the NA Valorant scene, last few matches/This Challenger 2022 he didn't perform the way we expect him to, If u compare that to leaf then yes Leaf has been on red hot form. But still this is braindead to say Leaf is better than Tenz on Aimwise and gamesense lol no way.
Only thing C9 is now a better overall team compared to Sentinels bcoz of their team work.

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xanny

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overrated?

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babay4g4

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Its not possible in Valorant stupid.

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This is the same story that happened to tenz in csgo. Just that he did not get so popular in csgo. Everybody was thinking this kid from c9 will dominate. And he had a couple of good matches but then he went to irrelevance. Now valorant is easy to adapt then csgo and it was popular in NA. But soon the NA pros caught up to him. He hs got great aim. But he chokes imp duels.

Also I don't think Asuna will do any good. He also loses imp duels and his aim is very shaky that will not help a team win even though he can get more kills than his other washed up teammates. Put Ethan on duelist and he will do better

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The craziest thing about Leaf to me is his First Kill to First Death Ratio

Even in losing matches he consistently has one of the highest success rates and attempt rates in getting first kills

This combined with C9’s 5v4 conversion rate is part of why I think they’re so successful atm

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oh ya he def is, we've seen this story with tenz before like the dude was absolutely killing it in pugs back in csgo days and got picked up to tier 1 and shrinks under all the pressure.. He has good aim but poor game sense tbh, and enough about him dominating Val in its infancy like that's the past, the scene was still developing, orgs were still just coming in and players that are now on top were then just learning the game. metas weren't as solidified as they are now. Honestly he should just go back to being a streamer where there is less pressure on him. people that have known of him since he entered the scene (csgo days) aren't surprised at all by how his performance currently is.

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i said this before, i'm gonna say it again. tenz is overhyped and overrated.

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agreed. he is a good player but is way overhyped