Seeding for APAC challengers

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OzyMeister

here it says top 2 teams go into group stage and 3rd team goes to Play-in
https://www.vlr.gg/event/841/champions-tour-philippines-stage-1-challengers

for the rest APAC subregions it just says playoffs could someone provide more details?

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it is information still to be announced, but i think the PH seeding info was leaked somewhere

edit: confirmed #1 and #2 to groups in rulebook

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maybe
Groups:
TH #1, #2
ID #1, #2
PH #1, #2
MYSG #1, #2
VN #1
HKTW #1
SA #1
OCE #1

Playin:
TH #3
ID #3
PH #3
MYSG #3
VN #2, #3
HKTW #2
SA #2

I think it could either be this^ or VN and MYSG slots gets swapped

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Yeah this would make most sense

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t0fudubu

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PH seeding info is in the VCT PH rulebook.

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makoidk

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i see

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RG

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vcc winner will be seeded in groups and the runner up in the playins

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OzyMeister

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source?

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Fluffyy

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vlr.gg

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OzyMeister

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link?
https://www.vlr.gg/event/840/valorant-conquerors-championship it says playoffs for both here

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Fluffyy

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that's apac playoffs event , i saw somewhere here that top seeds from each region would play in group stage and last seed will have to play "playins"

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no clear source but it would make sense if #1 seed goes to groups idk much just a speculation

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Why we don't deserve to be seeded in groups both teams should be in play-in imo

#11

OzyMeister

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nah this is fair

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Why is this fair ? SA teams are not better than t2 SEA it's better for them to go in play-in and give that slot to a deserving SEA team

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OzyMeister

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shut up idiot

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I mean the so "called" T2 teams are right now T1 teams

Yall called Action PH T2? do u really think they are T2?
U guys called Fallen 5 T2? Do you really think Naos is T2 in SEA rtn?

Action PH went on to Beat TS BREN Oasis
Naos went on to Beat SBE and Zeal who were considered T1 or T1.5 in the SEA Scene

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APH is really T2 Team

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Crapycat

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so then TS is also a T2 Team?

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carl123

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No. Imagine there is one team going champion and their strats, gameplays, communication, etc. were all exposed so any teams can do their homework to play against TS. for example, Bren won TS once but lost to OAS becase they dont have much infomation about OAS

Also APH lost to Full sense 0-2 no close

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6vine

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What are SA's achievements on the international stage?

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OzyMeister

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has played 3 VCT matches till date
won against 1 korean team and almost won against 2nd korean team too ( A region which even had first strike all the way back in Dec2020)
lost to prx badly but then again prx is the most OP team in 2nd most strongest region so all good

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My assumption,

ID PH TH MYSG VN 3rd, VCC TWHK 2nd, OCE 1st go to play-in

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OzyMeister

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sad for OCE

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makoidk

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from what ive seen (speculation) Bonkers are directly seeded into groups

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Tamag0

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If that so, VN need to give up their 2nd spot then.

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cool

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cyk

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play in? Like the wild card stage in leagues?

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Slashyiguess

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playins includes :
3rd seed for Thailand, Philippines, MYSG, indo, Viet and 2nd seed for Vietnam, South Asia, HKTW,

groups includes :
1st and 2nd seed Thailand, Philippines, MYSG, indo, Vietnam, 1st seed HKTW and 1st seed south Asia

Edit : also oce in groups

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OzyMeister

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you skipped BONKERS

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Slashyiguess

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yeah I edited it

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my guess

SG, ID, PH, TH, HK, VN 3rd seed to play in
SA 2nd seed play in & OCE to play in

4 teams proceed to group stage

then 16 team group stage

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Slashyiguess

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oce is already in groups

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KillFeed

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What does play-in means?

#25

ItsOnlyAGame

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All I want is an APAC LAN Id take days off work to watch dat shit

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ID = 3 Representatives -> (UNCONFIRMED but probably 2 for group and 1 for play-in)
SG/MY = 3 Representatives -> (UNCONFIRMED but probably 2 for group and 1 for play-in)
TH = 3 Representatives -> (UNCONFIRMED but probably 2 for group and 1 for play-in)
PH = 3 Representatives -> (CONFIRMED?) 2 for group and 1 for play-in
HK/TW = 2 Representatives -> (UNCONFIRMED but probably 1 for group and 1 for play-in)
VN = 3 Representatives -> (UNCONFIRMED but probably 2 for group and 1 for play-in)
SA(VCC) = 2 Representatives -> (UNCONFIRMED but probably 1 for group and 1 for play-in)
OCE = 1 Representatives (CONFIRMED) -> Bonkers (POG)

This is my opinion of the APAC Playoffs. I also think that the 2 top teams in the play-in will later qualify for group.

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NoTToKunG

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OCE go to Group https://twitter.com/esportsid_/status/1495613391125512192

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carl123

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XERXIA or FS one of them will go to play-in. so RIP any teams in play-in

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Pretty sure it's gonna be last seed from every region in Playins, and rest of the teams and Oce's only team (THE GOD TEAM) go to Group Stage.

Don't have any source just the most sensible option imo.

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Play-in (8) Single Elimination
ID (1), PH (1), SG (1), TH (1), VN (2), HK (1), SA (1)

Group (16) 4x4 Group
ID (2), PH (2), SG (2), TH (2), VN (1), HK (1), SA (1), OCE (1), Play-in (4)

Finals (8) Double Elimination

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Source? Or made up the most sensible one?

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least*

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Bo0mShell

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Why?

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OzyMeister

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Group (16) 4x4 Group

this is why

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Bo0mShell

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Ok yeah. But that's the only thing right?

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OzyMeister

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yup

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ChowChow

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My guess from the amount of team that qualified from each Challenger and the allocated time for VCT APAC (11 Mar - 28 Mar)

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Bo0mShell

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Yeah VN - 2 in Playins makes sense ig. They aren't on the level of other SEA countries

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I guess play in is something like a Wildcard qualifier where the teams who couldn't qualify for main event by just one position from various regions will fight for a spot in the playoffs