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Seeding for APAC challengers

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OzyMeister

here it says top 2 teams go into group stage and 3rd team goes to Play-in
https://www.vlr.gg/event/841/champions-tour-philippines-stage-1-challengers

for the rest APAC subregions it just says playoffs could someone provide more details?

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it is information still to be announced, but i think the PH seeding info was leaked somewhere

edit: confirmed #1 and #2 to groups in rulebook

#3
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vcc winner will be seeded in groups and the runner up in the playins

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OzyMeister
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RG [#3]

vcc winner will be seeded in groups and the runner up in the playins

source?

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Fluffyy
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OzyMeister [#4]

source?

vlr.gg

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Vividogre
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RG [#3]

vcc winner will be seeded in groups and the runner up in the playins

Why we don't deserve to be seeded in groups both teams should be in play-in imo

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My assumption,

ID PH TH MYSG VN 3rd, VCC TWHK 2nd, OCE 1st go to play-in

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OzyMeister
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Fluffyy [#5]

vlr.gg

link?
https://www.vlr.gg/event/840/valorant-conquerors-championship it says playoffs for both here

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bambamskrrt
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cool

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OzyMeister
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Tamag0 [#7]

My assumption,

ID PH TH MYSG VN 3rd, VCC TWHK 2nd, OCE 1st go to play-in

sad for OCE

#11
OzyMeister
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Vividogre [#6]

Why we don't deserve to be seeded in groups both teams should be in play-in imo

nah this is fair

#12
Fluffyy
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OzyMeister [#8]

link?
https://www.vlr.gg/event/840/valorant-conquerors-championship it says playoffs for both here

that's apac playoffs event , i saw somewhere here that top seeds from each region would play in group stage and last seed will have to play "playins"

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makoidk
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Tamag0 [#7]

My assumption,

ID PH TH MYSG VN 3rd, VCC TWHK 2nd, OCE 1st go to play-in

from what ive seen (speculation) Bonkers are directly seeded into groups

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OzyMeister [#11]

nah this is fair

Why is this fair ? SA teams are not better than t2 SEA it's better for them to go in play-in and give that slot to a deserving SEA team

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Tamag0
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makoidk [#13]

from what ive seen (speculation) Bonkers are directly seeded into groups

If that so, VN need to give up their 2nd spot then.

#16
RG
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OzyMeister [#4]

source?

no clear source but it would make sense if #1 seed goes to groups idk much just a speculation

#17
cyk
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play in? Like the wild card stage in leagues?

#18
OzyMeister
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Vividogre [#14]

Why is this fair ? SA teams are not better than t2 SEA it's better for them to go in play-in and give that slot to a deserving SEA team

shut up idiot

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playins includes :
3rd seed for Thailand, Philippines, MYSG, indo, Viet and 2nd seed for Vietnam, South Asia, HKTW,

groups includes :
1st and 2nd seed Thailand, Philippines, MYSG, indo, Vietnam, 1st seed HKTW and 1st seed south Asia

Edit : also oce in groups

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Slashyiguess [#19]

playins includes :
3rd seed for Thailand, Philippines, MYSG, indo, Viet and 2nd seed for Vietnam, South Asia, HKTW,

groups includes :
1st and 2nd seed Thailand, Philippines, MYSG, indo, Vietnam, 1st seed HKTW and 1st seed south Asia

Edit : also oce in groups

you skipped BONKERS

#21
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OzyMeister [#20]

you skipped BONKERS

yeah I edited it

#22
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my guess

SG, ID, PH, TH, HK, VN 3rd seed to play in
SA 2nd seed play in & OCE to play in

4 teams proceed to group stage

then 16 team group stage

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hotpotatoman [#22]

my guess

SG, ID, PH, TH, HK, VN 3rd seed to play in
SA 2nd seed play in & OCE to play in

4 teams proceed to group stage

then 16 team group stage

oce is already in groups

#24
KillFeed
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What does play-in means?

#25
ItsOnlyAGame
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All I want is an APAC LAN Id take days off work to watch dat shit

#26
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ID = 3 Representatives -> (UNCONFIRMED but probably 2 for group and 1 for play-in)
SG/MY = 3 Representatives -> (UNCONFIRMED but probably 2 for group and 1 for play-in)
TH = 3 Representatives -> (UNCONFIRMED but probably 2 for group and 1 for play-in)
PH = 3 Representatives -> (CONFIRMED?) 2 for group and 1 for play-in
HK/TW = 2 Representatives -> (UNCONFIRMED but probably 1 for group and 1 for play-in)
VN = 3 Representatives -> (UNCONFIRMED but probably 2 for group and 1 for play-in)
SA(VCC) = 2 Representatives -> (UNCONFIRMED but probably 1 for group and 1 for play-in)
OCE = 1 Representatives (CONFIRMED) -> Bonkers (POG)

This is my opinion of the APAC Playoffs. I also think that the 2 top teams in the play-in will later qualify for group.

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OCE go to Group https://twitter.com/esportsid_/status/1495613391125512192

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makoidk [#2]

it is information still to be announced, but i think the PH seeding info was leaked somewhere

edit: confirmed #1 and #2 to groups in rulebook

maybe
Groups:
TH #1, #2
ID #1, #2
PH #1, #2
MYSG #1, #2
VN #1
HKTW #1
SA #1
OCE #1

Playin:
TH #3
ID #3
PH #3
MYSG #3
VN #2, #3
HKTW #2
SA #2

I think it could either be this^ or VN and MYSG slots gets swapped

#29
6vine
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Vividogre [#6]

Why we don't deserve to be seeded in groups both teams should be in play-in imo

What are SA's achievements on the international stage?

#30
carl123
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XERXIA or FS one of them will go to play-in. so RIP any teams in play-in

#31
Bo0mShell
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Pretty sure it's gonna be last seed from every region in Playins, and rest of the teams and Oce's only team (THE GOD TEAM) go to Group Stage.

Don't have any source just the most sensible option imo.

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makoidk [#28]

maybe
Groups:
TH #1, #2
ID #1, #2
PH #1, #2
MYSG #1, #2
VN #1
HKTW #1
SA #1
OCE #1

Playin:
TH #3
ID #3
PH #3
MYSG #3
VN #2, #3
HKTW #2
SA #2

I think it could either be this^ or VN and MYSG slots gets swapped

Yeah this would make most sense

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Play-in (8) Single Elimination
ID (1), PH (1), SG (1), TH (1), VN (2), HK (1), SA (1)

Group (16) 4x4 Group
ID (2), PH (2), SG (2), TH (2), VN (1), HK (1), SA (1), OCE (1), Play-in (4)

Finals (8) Double Elimination

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ChowChow [#33]

Play-in (8) Single Elimination
ID (1), PH (1), SG (1), TH (1), VN (2), HK (1), SA (1)

Group (16) 4x4 Group
ID (2), PH (2), SG (2), TH (2), VN (1), HK (1), SA (1), OCE (1), Play-in (4)

Finals (8) Double Elimination

Source? Or made up the most sensible one?

#35
OzyMeister
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6vine [#29]

What are SA's achievements on the international stage?

has played 3 VCT matches till date
won against 1 korean team and almost won against 2nd korean team too ( A region which even had first strike all the way back in Dec2020)
lost to prx badly but then again prx is the most OP team in 2nd most strongest region so all good

#36
OzyMeister
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Bo0mShell [#34]

Source? Or made up the most sensible one?

least*

#37
sp3cbro
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I guess play in is something like a Wildcard qualifier where the teams who couldn't qualify for main event by just one position from various regions will fight for a spot in the playoffs

#38
Bo0mShell
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OzyMeister [#36]

least*

Why?

#39
OzyMeister
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Bo0mShell [#38]

Why?

Group (16) 4x4 Group

this is why

#40
Bo0mShell
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OzyMeister [#39]

Group (16) 4x4 Group

this is why

Ok yeah. But that's the only thing right?

#41
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makoidk [#2]

it is information still to be announced, but i think the PH seeding info was leaked somewhere

edit: confirmed #1 and #2 to groups in rulebook

PH seeding info is in the VCT PH rulebook.

#42
OzyMeister
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Bo0mShell [#40]

Ok yeah. But that's the only thing right?

yup

#43
ChowChow
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Bo0mShell [#34]

Source? Or made up the most sensible one?

My guess from the amount of team that qualified from each Challenger and the allocated time for VCT APAC (11 Mar - 28 Mar)

#44
makoidk
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t0fudubu [#41]

PH seeding info is in the VCT PH rulebook.

i see

#45
Bo0mShell
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ChowChow [#43]

My guess from the amount of team that qualified from each Challenger and the allocated time for VCT APAC (11 Mar - 28 Mar)

Yeah VN - 2 in Playins makes sense ig. They aren't on the level of other SEA countries

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Vividogre [#14]

Why is this fair ? SA teams are not better than t2 SEA it's better for them to go in play-in and give that slot to a deserving SEA team

I mean the so "called" T2 teams are right now T1 teams

Yall called Action PH T2? do u really think they are T2?
U guys called Fallen 5 T2? Do you really think Naos is T2 in SEA rtn?

Action PH went on to Beat TS BREN Oasis
Naos went on to Beat SBE and Zeal who were considered T1 or T1.5 in the SEA Scene

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carl123
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Crapycat [#46]

I mean the so "called" T2 teams are right now T1 teams

Yall called Action PH T2? do u really think they are T2?
U guys called Fallen 5 T2? Do you really think Naos is T2 in SEA rtn?

Action PH went on to Beat TS BREN Oasis
Naos went on to Beat SBE and Zeal who were considered T1 or T1.5 in the SEA Scene

APH is really T2 Team

#48
Crapycat
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carl123 [#47]

APH is really T2 Team

so then TS is also a T2 Team?

#49
carl123
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Crapycat [#48]

so then TS is also a T2 Team?

No. Imagine there is one team going champion and their strats, gameplays, communication, etc. were all exposed so any teams can do their homework to play against TS. for example, Bren won TS once but lost to OAS becase they dont have much infomation about OAS

Also APH lost to Full sense 0-2 no close

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