Bad mentality | VLR.gg

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Mdkns

I think it’s pathetic that people are giving a Tsm pass. This is the problem with NA players in esports! There is a terrible mentality! You couldn’t imagine a Korean player being anything but ashamed if they got knocked out of league of legends tournament early but people are acting like it’s totally ok for a team as popular as Tsm to not even make it to the group stage! Pathetic!!!!! https://twitter.com/sick_cs/status/1490392117826441217?s=21 Maybe if he has the mentality of S1mple he wouldn’t have been tier2.

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TSM paid so much money to this team
Then, they can't even passed a qualifier to qualify a qualifier so that they can qualify to master? (Idk lol)

Smh
Even teams like knight, EG, or Guard (new team) being so much better than TSM

TSM better signed tier2 team like bait academy, (lower salary, better performance), or other team than this TSM team

Idk, but I personally don't hate them or whatever
But giving TSM passed, because quote unquote "so much competition" is not reasonable

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Sem1-

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Boohoo people learned how to play the game and now we can't win anything

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SnooTangerines

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Asian mentality GO

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Sicks tweet is pretty braindead. Why would people not expect the once number one team/one of the biggest eSports org/team with one of the biggest fanbase/team with best skye and op NA (not according to me) to not make it through OPEN QUALIS.

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Like he said, competition is fiercer and it’s been a long time since they were “the best”, and anything can happen

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delusional_sentinels_fan1

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Because they haven't been number 1 for a year. It's like expecting 100T to come out and dominate NA because they won first strike a year and a half agom

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Your point would stand if it was challengers, they couldn't even go deep in OPEN QUALIFIERS.

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delusional_sentinels_fan1

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They've failed in open qualifiers for most of last year though? Why should it be a surprise?

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sumihiro

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I'd be ashamed if I had the structure they had and ended up disqualified lmao

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Dr4goNN

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tsm is shit. But you are unable to imagine how big is the competition in NA now. Every team can beat every team. You are not garented to qualify shithead.

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ItsMeDio

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the worst part:
they never show if they want to be the best:
likes, rumors, they're trolling on scrim
never participated in a tier 2-3 tournament
always streaming, etc

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sick pretty much had good impression despite being in sentinels, why he try to defend TSM with a braindead argument lmao. this is why people criticized sentinels to less tweet practice more

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SicK was tier50 in csgo
Moreover, the competition is only fierce because teams like tsm and sentinels were slacking the past year and they let other teams improve to their level, because they are lazy. Any top EMEA team would be able to 26-0 every match in these open qualis and you shouldn't be expecting ANYTHING LESS from a team that gets paid 5 times as much as EMEA teams.

Guess the issue with NA is their shit mentality, that's why y'all garbage in every esport.

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sumihiro

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If Sentinels had to play the open qualifier I wouldn't be sure if they qualify, and obviously they would blame the fact that BatChest TenZ BatChest was in process of moving to LA and shit like that

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Damn your mother should've swallowed

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ihsazal

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You did him dirty

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hekzy

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name checks out

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NA still the best in American Football Copium

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Common hekzy L

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hekzy

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Holy heck you a stalker

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He is right tho, did any1 actually expect this dogshit lineup to qualify? Maybe if they pracced for months nostop and grinded tournaments like some of these upcoming teams they could but you cant expect a team with 2 unproven t2 upcoming players, 2 washed players who are just way behind top t1 players and seem like they cant play any agent to a t1 level and just keep doing bot mistakes and a mediocre t1.5 player who is lurking and baiting as duelist (corey) to qualify, althought I agree that NA mentality is terrible and the fact that these sentinels dogs barely pracced before a world championship after getting bashed at masters 3 is a S H A M E but even if TSM is popular doesnt mean they will be good, it literally depends on the players not on the org and there is barely any players looking for a team who are t1 material and would secure you a spot in challengers groups, NA just doesnt have that much depth in players imo so its hard to form a roster than can compete in t1 atm

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justboy

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Sick was playing for TSM in cs, maybe a little bit of bias but this take is pretty dogshit

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ItsMeDio

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it's not really that bad
honestly, he basically just said we also don't forget the team/player that grinding more than tsm

but we also can't let tsm get away with without criticism

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delusional_sentinels_fan1

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Holy fuck takes are so bad on vlr when EU is awake

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number1_MIBR_hater

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biased

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Threads are so brain-dead when NA is awake

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delusional_sentinels_fan1

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Yeah they are but the takes at least have a rebuttal when NA is awake. When it's only EU awake it's just a circle jerk with no conversation even.

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Kinda true

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oof...someone said it

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hekzy

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What other rebuttal would you like other than, that is a shit mentality and any player that was actually seeking greatness in esports would be ashamed of such a performance, apologize, and try to become better. This is what separates good players from the great ones. This is what separates EU from NA.

My only conclusion is that NA players simply don't care about competingg, as long as they have the content clout, which brings them more money.

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the amount of tsm fans who were like “great job today [insert tsm player name here], we still believe in you guys and you’ll win next time!” was ridiculous. what did they do great, losing?

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Darkstratus

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bait or nah, votes in the replies. Ima say nah

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chapati

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subroza knows. recent jarso vid there's a clip where he hits some cold hs and his teammates cheer him, he just said I cant troll any more cuz his team cant even get out of OQ

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The phrase “it’s just a game” is such a weak mindset. You are ok with what happened, losing, imperfection of a craft. When you stop getting angry after losing, you’ve lost twice.

There’s always something to learn, and always room for improvement, never settle.

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Exactly. Plus they're pros, it's not "just a game" for them, it's their livelihood. You'll never see players from other regions shrug it off as "it's just a game"

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bananarama2233

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lmao this is a copypasta from ninja

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Yeetus

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Thank God somebody got it

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Netero

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Actually true

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i think the tweet is p braindead but he is right about the competition. na val is way oversaturated with orgs that its not rly sustainable