If Acend wins champs...

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TractorBrrr

Mickey mouse championship because they should have lost to VK in opening match, and in lower bracket anything could have happened.

Even if you agree with vk case decision you still have to agree that they were clearly the better team on breeze, and would have won even without the 'exploit'

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COPIUM

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he is right tho , but acend looks way better now

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Pravitel

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There were also lower bracket how can he right?

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Kru will win

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Biggest slap in the face of SA history.

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tetris69

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deeply, eu know that, but they don't wanna admit

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X10 knows it too...

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aaa420

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deeply brazil knows that they are bad but keep clinging into 1 upset match because that was their only achievement this whole tournament

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VK Cheated get over it.

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TractorBrrr

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They would have won without the cheats. Idc about VK but acend should not be where it is today

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aaa420

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wdym "should not" is there someone deciding who should be there,they won the teams they played against and thats why they are there

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TractorBrrr

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is there someone deciding who should be there

Riot obviously made the decision to give acend 9-0 so idk.

Also, it's not very hard to accept that acend should have definitely lost that match, while still agreeing that Riot's decision was fair.

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first it was 7-0 not 9-0 and they gave they abused it 6 rounds and they counted economic difference in to that,they were about to get disqualified or had to forfeit the match,the fact that they got a rematch was already more than generous from riot

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TractorBrrr

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Read my reply again

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aaa420

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yeah,and it doesnt matter if vk 13-0 them,if they lost they dont deserve to be there,there is not such thing,they both agreed to rematch and they lost

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just put the camera lower it's not hard to not cheat

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Mca

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VK buffed Acend, after playing with VK teams get better for some reason. Even Envy got the VK buff and went to the finals in last masters.

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13-10 Ace

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cry.

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Chaos1

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go cry another corner

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Some people just want to be Upset...
vk cheated and got punished for it

this didn't help Acend to win against ENVY, Secret and Liquid

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TractorBrrr

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If vk didn't cheat they would have won, acend to lower bracket where they could get eliminated.
So yes, it did help Acend be where it is today

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yuzukaze

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or they win from lower bracket?

what i meant was Acend won against teams that would Clap VK any time

#36

TractorBrrr

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Yes vk would probably lose the next match so they'll face acend in lower bracket again, in which case we can't rule out that they can lose again.
(Maybe vk's comp/strats were great anti for acend)

Even if they win, they'll be differently seeded in playoffs when they qualify from lower bracket anyway

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StockfishZ

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well maybe dont use bugs next time?

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Panic

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Even if Acend lost against vk they would've still had a comeback in the lower brackets so stop coping.

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MoonshineRB

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why are people still crying about it???? acend are deserved finalists

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ONE THING IS CERTAIN, AND IF YOU DON'T AGREE, YOU ARE A BRAZIL HATER
VK is probably between the 5 best teams in this tourney. Their performances against Acend prove that.
The team is pretty young though, and the punishment and all these issues affected them mentally. No one played well against X10, that had efficient well-prepared strategies to beat VK

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Panic

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Ratio plus x10 shit on VK so sit.

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VK 5 Top Team ??

Then X10 is top 4 No capp

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0vertaker

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I think it's difficul to explain, that not necessarily the best team always wins dude
VK players were clearly affected mentally, no one could play well. Or do you really think that X10 won against the same VK that played against Acend?

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Why would it matter if Acend would have lost to VK? They would just continue from Lower Bracket. It is not like they are scared of any Team.

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TractorBrrr

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If they went to lower bracket, they'll probably have to face VK again, because it's unlikely vk would've gone lossless.
The only team acend had trouble against was vk, maybe because of comp/strats etc. So they could have been eliminated surely

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WONDERWEISS

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Can't tell how VK would perform on other Maps. Only remember them playing Breeze and Icebox somehow.

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8

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shut the fuck up.. vk werent guaranteed to win breeze without that advantage and even when you count the rounds of acend vs vk and exclude the advantage acend got, acend had more rounds than vk that series..

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TractorBrrr

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Why compare whole series? Map 3 was breeze that's what matters

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8

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You said "would have won even without the exploit"

Do you have brain worms? You are saying they would've won Breeze, but without the advantage, the map state rounds wise would've been 10-6. 10-6 does not win you the map??

And you are ignoring the larger context of the series, which was dominant for Acend round differential wise.

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TractorBrrr

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This tells me you didn't watch the game so can't argue with brain dead crowd follower sorry

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ArgieGR8ArgieB8ArgieM8

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Ok so your argument is Acend don't deserve to win the tournament, because you FEEL Vivo Keyd was better after watching their match? No substance whatsoever?

Good to know Acend 2-0'ing Envy and Liquid doesn't matter. Good to know Vivo Keyd getting 2-0'd by X10 doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is that Vivo Keyd would've won the series if you let them cheat.

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dw acend would have got into playoffs through lower bracket

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feaN

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They cheated, we saw them how they perform without cheats..getting stomped by both Acend and X10. Cry is free

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TractorBrrr

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stomped by both acend

Kkkkkkk barely won even with 7-0 advantage

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Stfu fake flagger go home Brazilians shit vk cheated they lost X10.
If you have any knowledge guild and gaint also got punished so stfu and go bait some where else you shit fuker

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TractorBrrr

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Flair checks out at least lul

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Okay so if brazilians say they could win without the cam exploit, then why use It and later complain about the 7 advantage rounds? I mean VK get lucky that they didnt have to ff or even get eliminated. And btw its not the first time that camera is penalized and VK had more advantages than Giants or X10 when they used it.
So tbf: STOP COMPLAINING!!!

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TractorBrrr

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Yes vk was stupid to use the exploit, idk why they did it. But if u see the rounds in which they used the cam, you'd see that it didn't give them any advantage whatsoever.
My point in initial thread was that acend deserved to lose to vk

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Qwerty69

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Can you please stfu or I need to tell your mom to put tape on your hands?

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ruihfjk

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BRO, ARE YOU BLIND ?? VK CHEATED

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justron40

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HARD COPIUM. VK should have been granted the loss right away after founded the exploit. They're lucky to be given a replay. lucky ass vivo kid.

#52

RickyIndian

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you literally copied my fucking post

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TractorBrrr

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NA brain can't come up with anything original kkkkkkk